JJs

so, in essence these 'designers' are saying that they OWN your quilt - that you pay them for the privilege of making the quilt, paying for the fabric AND the pattern...
as I said, bah humbug - I have EQ and a gazillion quilts to make and nary a single 'designer' to ask permission for any of them...

As my DH just said, it's like buying a car, entering a race, winning the race and a huge purse and the the car manufacturer trying to claim some of your winnings because they designed the car....

GREED PURE AND SIMPLE

read my post here:
http://www.quiltingboard.com/t-56143-1.htm

and then save up for one of the versions of EQ and design your own quilts

C.Cal Quilt Girl

Thanks for bringing it up, aggrivation is definately the correct topic name for this thread, will continue to monitor :)

ginnyk

I absolutely agree about saving up for EQ. I took a class in EQ6, and just playing around doing the class work and experimenting with abandon, I created quilt designs far more interesting that what is generally published. I'm looking forward to exploring my new Eq7. :-)

pittsburgpam

Do read the link to the Tabberone site. I have read this at many other sites. The pattern designer DOES NOT have the right to tell you that you cannot make and sell items made from their pattern!! It's all lies that they state to try and intimidate people who don't know this.

Especially interesting to read the section about Amy Butler. Her fabric is copywrite, meaning you cannot make FABRIC like it but, once you buy that fabric you can do anything you want with it INCLUDING sell it. You can make Amy Butler handbags, with Amy Butler fabric, and sell them, contrary to what she tries to tell people.

http://www.tabberone.com/Trademarks/...myButler.shtml

pittsburgpam

As an aside... When I was entering a quilt that I designed using standard blocks into an AQS show, I checked on the use of those blocks from EQ6. According to the EQ6 website:

http://www.appliquegraphics.com/Supp.../copyright.asp

EQ4, EQ5, EQ6 software
Blocks: Any blocks you design (without copying a design from existing copyrighted quilt blocks) are yours.
Blocks from the EQ Libraries are copyright free for the most part (because we either drew them or they've been in public domain since the turn of the century and no one can claim copyright to them) except for the blocks designed by Debbie Sichel and Rita Denenberg. Debbie and Rita's blocks are clearly marked by the Block Name. You do not need to mention that the pattern was made in EQ6, EQ5, or EQ4 (we love it if you do, of course).
Quilts: Any quilts you design (without copying an existing copyrighted quilt design) are yours.

Mona Marie

This is my understanding also. You can sell the product but not the pattern or copy it for a class unless have permision.

Sadiemae

I had this happen also, and I won't be purchasing from this seller again. It was not stated that it came from a magazine and I think it should have been.

pittsburgpam

I said much the same thing on another thread about this. An example is a maker of cabinet hardware, knobs, etc. That would be like the knob maker claiming that you cannot make and sell furniture using their knobs or claiming a portion of the profits from selling said furniture. It's totally ridiculous for a designer to claim that you can't make and sell things from their patterns!!!

costumegirl

JJ quote < Another thing that blows me away is when some 'designer' copies a design from somebody else or uses an OLD public domain design and does something then claims the design - that's disgusting and they should be zapped by lightning LOL>>

I was thinking the same thing - there are so many 'sampler' type books and patterns out right now that have taken quilting blocks that are in the public domain and that have been around for a very long time. Granted the author/designer has collected these 'historic' patterns and published them but now they are 'copyrighted' as their patterns and we can not legally share these whether it's making copies of the blocks, sharing block templates or piecing foundations of the blocks. There are some samplers being worked on right now on this board where these cautions have been given.

I don't think it is fair to lay claim to these blocks that have been in the public domain and that do not have any 'copyright' attached to them. I understand and appreciate that these 'designers' have researched and collected these lovely blocks and that they should be acknowledged by buying their books but when there are further restrictions and laying 'claim' to these blocks it bothers me that they can do this. These are not their 'original' designs.

Can these authors/designers copyright historic blocks that are in the public domain and restrict use?

pittsburgpam

No, they cannot. See my previous post about EQ6. If that block is in EQ6, which really has just about any block you could imagine, then it is either public domain or they (EQ6) drew it, and it is NOT copywrite.