Customers who DON'T PAY
08-31-2010, 09:27 AM
#41
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Since I retired from the Upholstery business, people ask me to recover their furniture. I tell them no, then they comeback with name your price, so I tell them $1500.00 labor for a sofa plus materials (which is totally outrageous labor price). As a result either I never see them again or the subject isn't brought up again.
My common practice was to get 1/2 down on the fabric and the rest on delivery. If they didn't pay when the piece arrived, I went back to the shop with the piece in tow, storage fees were incurred if the piece was left for more than 30 days. . I have actually repossessed several pieces of furniture because of NFS on a check that was wrote to me.
Not every realizes what goes into a job, whether it's making a quilt or building a piece of furniture.
My common practice was to get 1/2 down on the fabric and the rest on delivery. If they didn't pay when the piece arrived, I went back to the shop with the piece in tow, storage fees were incurred if the piece was left for more than 30 days. . I have actually repossessed several pieces of furniture because of NFS on a check that was wrote to me.
Not every realizes what goes into a job, whether it's making a quilt or building a piece of furniture.
08-31-2010, 10:36 AM
#42
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Originally Posted by Hindsight
Originally Posted by Sunflower Girl
I think if was a "real friend" she wouldn't have spoken to you that way. By the way, ask her (if she works) does she get paid? If you do it for a living she would understand - - - it is no different that ordering Pampered Chef or Avon or anything else, even if you do it on the side. Take her on shopping trip and let her buy fabric and supplies for your next quilt and maybe she will get an idea of what it costs to make a quality product. Pack it up and send it back to her before you get started on it.
She had started it, didn't want to finish it....I'm going to finish it. Not sure what I'll do with this one. She's not getting it back. May try to sell it at LQS or on ebay. I haven't got anything in it except for labor about 9 hours, and counting. It's gonna be beautiful and when it's done I'll post photos. Maybe one of you will need a quick gift. :)
08-31-2010, 10:52 AM
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Hobo, that was a great story. A quilt is never perfect and that is the charm of it. I would never even consider a consignment. I only do what I love and if someone is interested to purchase, we can make a good deal.
For an example. My cinco di mayo? I have been asked several times of the price. I say 12 grand and I don't blink eigher. 400 hours is a lot of work and I don't do slave labour hahahhahahaha
For an example. My cinco di mayo? I have been asked several times of the price. I say 12 grand and I don't blink eigher. 400 hours is a lot of work and I don't do slave labour hahahhahahaha
08-31-2010, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Rosyhf
Hobo, that was a great story. A quilt is never perfect and that is the charm of it. I would never even consider a consignment. I only do what I love and if someone is interested to purchase, we can make a good deal.
For an example. My cinco di mayo? I have been asked several times of the price. I say 12 grand and I don't blink eigher. 400 hours is a lot of work and I don't do slave labour hahahhahahaha
For an example. My cinco di mayo? I have been asked several times of the price. I say 12 grand and I don't blink eigher. 400 hours is a lot of work and I don't do slave labour hahahhahahaha
08-31-2010, 11:23 AM
#45
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I say hang on to it.
When and if she asks for it back, hand her a bill for services rendered to date as well as storage charges.
Explain to her that "She no pay she no get"(that is sarcasm there). But the truth none the less.
Most if not all places where you leave something, has the policy that if it stays for more than 60 days without payment or having made other arrangements it becomes the property of the person doing the work.
If she was a "friend" she would understand that you were giving her a deal in the first place. Come on now. If a mechanic has to fix what you screwed up, he's gonna charge extra to take it back apart to repair it properly.
Sorry but she sounds pretty selfish to me.
I do not see that you have done anything wrong, nor should you have to give it back if you have already started working on it.
I'm thinking that she may be embarressed to come back. Seeing as how she made a fool of herself for saying that to you. She should be ashamed of herself.
You should have asked her if she kisses her Mama with that mouth... LOL!!!
And that Ladies is only my opinion...:-D
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When and if she asks for it back, hand her a bill for services rendered to date as well as storage charges.
Explain to her that "She no pay she no get"(that is sarcasm there). But the truth none the less.
Most if not all places where you leave something, has the policy that if it stays for more than 60 days without payment or having made other arrangements it becomes the property of the person doing the work.
If she was a "friend" she would understand that you were giving her a deal in the first place. Come on now. If a mechanic has to fix what you screwed up, he's gonna charge extra to take it back apart to repair it properly.
Sorry but she sounds pretty selfish to me.
I do not see that you have done anything wrong, nor should you have to give it back if you have already started working on it.
I'm thinking that she may be embarressed to come back. Seeing as how she made a fool of herself for saying that to you. She should be ashamed of herself.
You should have asked her if she kisses her Mama with that mouth... LOL!!!
And that Ladies is only my opinion...:-D
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08-31-2010, 11:54 AM
#46
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I personally wouldn't want it around as a reminder! I'd give it back quickly. It is hers IMHO
08-31-2010, 12:12 PM
#47
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Originally Posted by ghostrider
Is this right?
A friend asks if you'd finish a quilt she started.
You give her an estimate, discuss what she wants, and start working on it.
You then give her a firm price of $250 because you will have to buy backing.
She balks and is rude to you, in your opinion (we cannot hear her tone of voice remember, it could easily have been sarcasm).
Now you are confiscating her quilt, plan to sell it and keep the proceeds for yourself.
Is that all a friendship is worth to you? Nine hours of doing something that you say you love to do anyway?
Return it to her, as is, and chalk it up to experience. All you have lost is time. Never again do business with someone before you have a written agreement in hand.
A friend asks if you'd finish a quilt she started.
You give her an estimate, discuss what she wants, and start working on it.
You then give her a firm price of $250 because you will have to buy backing.
She balks and is rude to you, in your opinion (we cannot hear her tone of voice remember, it could easily have been sarcasm).
Now you are confiscating her quilt, plan to sell it and keep the proceeds for yourself.
Is that all a friendship is worth to you? Nine hours of doing something that you say you love to do anyway?
Return it to her, as is, and chalk it up to experience. All you have lost is time. Never again do business with someone before you have a written agreement in hand.
OK let me clear THIS air. She insisted that I keep the quilt. She TOLD me to try and sell it, if I do actually sell it I will send her $$ she paid for the shipping. No! honey, friendship is worth a LOT more then that. Rude ~ yes, sarcasm ~ no.
I don't normally do business with friends because 90% of my friends quilt....
08-31-2010, 12:13 PM
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I would return the quilt. I could not in good conscience keep it around and then walk away never to look back. "Friends" like her are a dime a dozen.
08-31-2010, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MadQuilter
I must admit, I am confused:
The "friend" asked you to finish a quilt and she would pay for it. Then when you quoted her a price, she flipped and basically pulled out of HER obligation to pay. Yet, you say that you are "stuck with a UFO" which suggests that you have the unfinished quilt in your possession. What did I miss that could possibly give you a sense of disconcern.
She pulled out of her obligation to pay, so you should not feel one moment of concern when you pull out of your agreement. You were going to finish it for a price. No money no work. I'd give the UFO back. Simple as that. If she's a friend she'll get it. If not, no great loss either way.
The "friend" asked you to finish a quilt and she would pay for it. Then when you quoted her a price, she flipped and basically pulled out of HER obligation to pay. Yet, you say that you are "stuck with a UFO" which suggests that you have the unfinished quilt in your possession. What did I miss that could possibly give you a sense of disconcern.
She pulled out of her obligation to pay, so you should not feel one moment of concern when you pull out of your agreement. You were going to finish it for a price. No money no work. I'd give the UFO back. Simple as that. If she's a friend she'll get it. If not, no great loss either way.
Trouble is she is 1300 miles away, I'm not paying for the shipping, and she said to keep it. Otherwise I just might send it back.
08-31-2010, 12:20 PM
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Then go a step further and gift it to a deserving Charity. That way she's done something nice for someone, even if she isn't. Oh and by the way there was no $ made so she gets $0.00
Did I say that outloud? :shock:
Sorry again my opinion...
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Did I say that outloud? :shock:
Sorry again my opinion...
:XD:
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