DOES THIS BOTHER ANYBODY ELSE?
09-11-2010, 09:54 PM
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Actually it's legal to give away or sell a pattern only on the condition that we do not keep a copy. The copy is what is illegal.
But I agree it would be nice not to have to store full books and magazines just to keep copies of a few patterns.
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But I agree it would be nice not to have to store full books and magazines just to keep copies of a few patterns.
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09-11-2010, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tooMuchFabric
It's legal. They are selling the actual, original pages from the magazine, not xeroxed or scanned copies.
And if they sell separate patterns from the magazines, they can make back many times their cost of the magazine, or it could even all be pure profit if they got the magazines free or for scant money.
This has been going on in, as was posted, crochet and knitting, on ebay, for many years now.
Ebay is well aware of it.
I know a lady who financed her daughter's wedding 7 years ago with sales on ebay of pattern pages from new as well as old crochet magazines and booklets.
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And if they sell separate patterns from the magazines, they can make back many times their cost of the magazine, or it could even all be pure profit if they got the magazines free or for scant money.
This has been going on in, as was posted, crochet and knitting, on ebay, for many years now.
Ebay is well aware of it.
I know a lady who financed her daughter's wedding 7 years ago with sales on ebay of pattern pages from new as well as old crochet magazines and booklets.
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Good grief, no kidding. Maybe if we find out it's all legal, we may all be onto something. LOL.
09-11-2010, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by tooMuchFabric
Actually it's legal to give away or sell a pattern only on the condition that we do not keep a copy. The copy is what is illegal.
But I agree it would be nice not to have to store full books and magazines just to keep copies of a few patterns.
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But I agree it would be nice not to have to store full books and magazines just to keep copies of a few patterns.
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09-11-2010, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Pat G
Originally Posted by tooMuchFabric
Actually it's legal to give away or sell a pattern only on the condition that we do not keep a copy. The copy is what is illegal.
But I agree it would be nice not to have to store full books and magazines just to keep copies of a few patterns.
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But I agree it would be nice not to have to store full books and magazines just to keep copies of a few patterns.
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o people in this grp. just for the cost of shipping.
09-11-2010, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Pat G
I'm just reading in another thread about "carping" & being negative. (I remember the msg they're referring to & felt bad about it at the time) I sure hope my comment doesn't sound like that since I'm just trying to find out if this is legal. If not, I will sure question a seller in the future as to her/his source of patterns.
I have so much faith in this grp. that I knew we would all rise above any negativity.
I have so much faith in this grp. that I knew we would all rise above any negativity.
i feel as most others do. whether or not it's legal, it's definitely tacky becaus she wasn't open and honest about what she was selling. in your case, i would include the "not as presented" as part of the feedback.
09-11-2010, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Candace
Originally Posted by Pat G
This is what I do. Just copy what I want & take the rest to thrift stores. That's why I now say I will offer my bks. free t
o people in this grp. just for the cost of shipping.
o people in this grp. just for the cost of shipping.
09-11-2010, 11:43 PM
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I bought a couple magazine ripout patterns but it was clearly stated in the description (on ebay) I had never seen the patterns because I don't own every magazine in the history of quilt magazines (well most of them lol) and I didn't think about the legality. Good question...now we know.
09-12-2010, 12:20 AM
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I don't think that selling patterns out of a magazine would violate the law anymore than the reselling of any other pattern.
However, I do think it would be presumed that you would be buying an "actual" packaged pattern unless it is stated otherwise in the items description.
I can understand your frustration, as well as your questioning this deceptive sale.
However, I do think it would be presumed that you would be buying an "actual" packaged pattern unless it is stated otherwise in the items description.
I can understand your frustration, as well as your questioning this deceptive sale.
09-12-2010, 12:32 AM
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I've bought patterns this way through ebay. The ones I received were "packaged" in clear sheet protectors and I paid a minimal amount. Maybe $1. I like buying this way. I have way too many quilt magazines.
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