Elmers glue with Sharon Schamber's method ...
12-01-2012, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DogHouseMom
Well ... finished. I will quilt it tomorrow but it looks good. Overall I think it took more time than it would to hand baste because I did sections and had to wait for each section to dry ... but it gave me the chance to do other things while waiting AND *I* wasn't basting!
12-01-2012, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Lisa_wanna_b_quilter
When I use Elmer's on bindings, I iron it dry. Would that be possible with the board method? I've never used boards, but I MUST come up with a better way than I'm doing it now.
12-01-2012, 07:48 PM
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I keep reading these post about Elmer's glue and am "this" close to giving it a whirl. But, a couple of questions:
When using the stick, does one completely cover the surface with it?
Or with the liquid?
Is it just a light swipe?
Does it feel stiff when it dries before quilting?
Does the basting spray wash out when the finished quilt is washed? Which one is preferred and why?
Any other tips or pointers for a wary gluer-to-be?
Jan in VA
When using the stick, does one completely cover the surface with it?
Or with the liquid?
Is it just a light swipe?
Does it feel stiff when it dries before quilting?
Does the basting spray wash out when the finished quilt is washed? Which one is preferred and why?
Any other tips or pointers for a wary gluer-to-be?
Jan in VA
12-01-2012, 09:41 PM
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Jan - this was my first time using Elmers. I've also used 505 once.
Originally Posted by Jan in VA
I keep reading these post about Elmer's glue and am "this" close to giving it a whirl. But, a couple of questions:
When using the stick, does one completely cover the surface with it?
Haven't tried the stick - only the liquid.
Or with the liquid?
Is it just a light swipe?
I just drizzle it on. As light as possible. I had a few blobs ... will let you know how those areas quilt. When I drizzled it I did a kind of meandering motion - about 3-5" apart. I actually 'dragged' the glue tip across the quilt to get it as thin as possible, in a fairly fast motion. If I missed a spot, I returned - better than getting too many gobs on it. Because I also used the boards (Sharon Schamber method) I first put my backing down and unrolled it making sure it was straight, then I glued the backing and laid the batting on it, then I drizzled glue on the batting. Yes, the glue tip gummed up a little when against the batting but the way I had the backing/top laid out on boards it was still easier than putting the glue on the reverse side of the quilt top and then flipping it over. I just cleaned the glue tip a little more often.
Overall it was a piece of cake ... the worst part was waiting for the glue to dry so I could do another section - but I got some house work done
I couldn't use the iron to dry it because A) I didn't want to gum up the bottom of my good iron (as I said - there were a few blobs and they did bleed through the fabric - but it's no big deal), and I was gluing it on my cutting board table. I did take a hair dryer to it for a little bit because I was getting impatient
Does it feel stiff when it dries before quilting?
It doesn't feel any different than when I basted with 505, which is to say just a tad stiffer than when I baste by hand. I will be quilting this tomorrow, but the one I quilted with 505 was a dream to quilt - very easy to handle.
Does the basting spray wash out when the finished quilt is washed? Which one is preferred and why?
They both wash out (liquid glue and 505). So far I like the glue better ... a LOT less mess. My problem with the 505 was the mess. You simply cannot avoid overspray when working with aerosol. If it was a pump - I would love it. But with the aerosol the spray literally flies and "drifts" everywhere in the room, and I mean everywhere! Everything I touched was tacky. My quilt was on the floor (concrete) on a plastic sheet, I held the can about 8-10" from the quilt, and I had an industrial exhaust (intake) fan about 4' in front of the direction I was spraying. Despite this ... everything within a 10' radius of the spray area was tacky from the spray. I loved the results of how the quilt felt and held together but I will never again deal with that mess. I used my husbands shop and he was NOT happy about the mess it left.
Any other tips or pointers for a wary gluer-to-be?
Try it first on a small project that is relatively un-important (ie ... not a gift or an item intended for show). I was also wary of both products.
Jan in VA
When using the stick, does one completely cover the surface with it?
Haven't tried the stick - only the liquid.
Or with the liquid?
Is it just a light swipe?
I just drizzle it on. As light as possible. I had a few blobs ... will let you know how those areas quilt. When I drizzled it I did a kind of meandering motion - about 3-5" apart. I actually 'dragged' the glue tip across the quilt to get it as thin as possible, in a fairly fast motion. If I missed a spot, I returned - better than getting too many gobs on it. Because I also used the boards (Sharon Schamber method) I first put my backing down and unrolled it making sure it was straight, then I glued the backing and laid the batting on it, then I drizzled glue on the batting. Yes, the glue tip gummed up a little when against the batting but the way I had the backing/top laid out on boards it was still easier than putting the glue on the reverse side of the quilt top and then flipping it over. I just cleaned the glue tip a little more often.
Overall it was a piece of cake ... the worst part was waiting for the glue to dry so I could do another section - but I got some house work done
I couldn't use the iron to dry it because A) I didn't want to gum up the bottom of my good iron (as I said - there were a few blobs and they did bleed through the fabric - but it's no big deal), and I was gluing it on my cutting board table. I did take a hair dryer to it for a little bit because I was getting impatient Does it feel stiff when it dries before quilting?
It doesn't feel any different than when I basted with 505, which is to say just a tad stiffer than when I baste by hand. I will be quilting this tomorrow, but the one I quilted with 505 was a dream to quilt - very easy to handle.
Does the basting spray wash out when the finished quilt is washed? Which one is preferred and why?
They both wash out (liquid glue and 505). So far I like the glue better ... a LOT less mess. My problem with the 505 was the mess. You simply cannot avoid overspray when working with aerosol. If it was a pump - I would love it. But with the aerosol the spray literally flies and "drifts" everywhere in the room, and I mean everywhere! Everything I touched was tacky. My quilt was on the floor (concrete) on a plastic sheet, I held the can about 8-10" from the quilt, and I had an industrial exhaust (intake) fan about 4' in front of the direction I was spraying. Despite this ... everything within a 10' radius of the spray area was tacky from the spray. I loved the results of how the quilt felt and held together but I will never again deal with that mess. I used my husbands shop and he was NOT happy about the mess it left.
Any other tips or pointers for a wary gluer-to-be?
Try it first on a small project that is relatively un-important (ie ... not a gift or an item intended for show). I was also wary of both products.
Jan in VA
12-01-2012, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Scissor Queen
Ironing it dry when you're basting would really depend on the tables you're using. I use plastic folding tables from Wal-Mart so I suspect ironing on one would probably not be a good thing.
12-02-2012, 06:16 AM
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Could someone please post the link to the Sharon Shamber method? The first time I heard about it, it took quite a while before I was able to find the tute on that.
I basted a quilt a few weeks ago with Roxanne's GLUE-BASTE-IT. It's the same as Elmer's School Glue, but the $9 bottle comes with a metal spout to get the glue in a nice thin line. When that bottle is empty, it will be filled with Elmer's.
The thing missing here is to lay out the batt and the backing on top of it, right side up, smooth and flat. Some put a few pins across the middle to hold it in place. Then fold back the top layer about half way and drip, drizzle, or whatever, the glue unto the backing layer. I used a small spot about every 6 inches. Fold the backing down, smooth very well and let it dry. I did this on my bed and used the iron to just press on each glue spot. Then work on the other half the same way.
When that is dry, flip it over, smooth the top onto the batt, pin a few places in the middle and put glue spots, lines, drizzles, etc. unto the back side of the top. Fold back onto the batt, and smooth very well. Use the iron on each spot if you wish. Now fold the other side back and do the same with that side.
I hope this helps.
I basted a quilt a few weeks ago with Roxanne's GLUE-BASTE-IT. It's the same as Elmer's School Glue, but the $9 bottle comes with a metal spout to get the glue in a nice thin line. When that bottle is empty, it will be filled with Elmer's.
The thing missing here is to lay out the batt and the backing on top of it, right side up, smooth and flat. Some put a few pins across the middle to hold it in place. Then fold back the top layer about half way and drip, drizzle, or whatever, the glue unto the backing layer. I used a small spot about every 6 inches. Fold the backing down, smooth very well and let it dry. I did this on my bed and used the iron to just press on each glue spot. Then work on the other half the same way.
When that is dry, flip it over, smooth the top onto the batt, pin a few places in the middle and put glue spots, lines, drizzles, etc. unto the back side of the top. Fold back onto the batt, and smooth very well. Use the iron on each spot if you wish. Now fold the other side back and do the same with that side.
I hope this helps.
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