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Thread: Flannel Not Suitable For Children's Sleepware. Quilts?

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    When I go into JoAnn's or Hancock's to shop for flannel, I see so many of these bolts that say they are not suitable for children's sleepware, yet the patterns are for babies and young children. A friend has given me 2 boxes of some very large flannel scraps with childrens' designs on them. Since I do not know which of these scraps may have come from bolts with such a warning on them, what safe use can I make of these? If they are not safe for childrens' sleepware, how could a person possibly use them for quilts? (I had planned on making some quilts for charity with these, but would not want to use unsafe material. Thank you in advance, folks, for giving me direction on the use of these scraps. Oh, and where can one buy "safe" material for childrens' sleepware?

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    I make quilts with all kinds of flannel, even those with this label.

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    there is nothing wrong with the fabric, it just doesn't meet the fire safty protocals to be used in sleepware.
    Inorder for any garment to be considered sleepware it must either be form fitting or flame retardent.
    These rules do not apply to blankets or quilts, so you can use them in your quilt.

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    I use all of the above in childrens quilts, never worry about that warning unless you are making childrens sleepwear, I agree with the others. Happy sewing!

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    I've used this fabric in a baby quilt before and it came out darling. I don't believe the same rules apply for quilts as they do for sleepware, at least as far as the warning goes. It will make lovely quilts, don't worry, and snuggly soft for any baby!

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    I use this fabric to make pjs for my kids. It does not have flame retardant on it that is the ONLY reason that it has that on the selvage. Because if one grandma made pjs for her grandkids and the house burnt down and a child died in the fire and they had grammies pjs on the parents could sue the fabric manufactors for not specifing that it was not flame retardant. It is just a "black box warning" to cover their butts! On top of that more than half of "fire related deaths" are not burns, they are deaths do to smoke inhalation, which flame redardent clothing is not going to prevent unless the clothing it oufitted with its own oxygen tank and self contained respirator mask


    It is pointless to use anything that is flame retardent if the family uses fabric softener in the washer or the drier. This removes the chemicals from the clothing thus rendering it useless!

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    None of the quilting fabrics are rated for children's sleepware, so if you use quilting cottons for kids quilts, you may as well use the flannel as well. No difference.

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    Most of the flame retardant chemicals wash out after numerous washings... :wink: None of the other bedding you purchase is flame retardant....
    I would not be afraid to use any flannel in a quilt :D:D:D

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    The problem is, kids in PJ's near a gas burner on the stove - that's why they want it to be flame-resistant. Quilts usually don't get near the stove, so I wouldn't worry about it.

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    I use it wherever I want. . I worry more about polyester in fabrics for sleepwear than the unmarked flannel. All that fleece stuff, minki, and polyesters melt and stick to the skin.

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    The above responses covered all my points! Use it! I don't use the flame retardant fabric anyway. Don't want the kids to be exposed to the chemicals. The protection washes out anyway.

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    Manufactors have to cover every thing in case someone tries to sue. The product can be safe but as you know there are those people out to find a lope hole so the can have a reason to sue.

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    Hey, great info and a touch of humor, too, i.e., "the clothing is outfitted with its own oxygen mask and self contained respirator mask" - LOL! Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by justwannaquilt
    I use this fabric to make pjs for my kids. It does not have flame retardant on it that is the ONLY reason that it has that on the selvage. Because if one grandma made pjs for her grandkids and the house burnt down and a child died in the fire and they had grammies pjs on the parents could sue the fabric manufactors for not specifing that it was not flame retardant. It is just a "black box warning" to cover their butts! On top of that more than half of "fire related deaths" are not burns, they are deaths do to smoke inhalation, which flame redardent clothing is not going to prevent unless the clothing it oufitted with its own oxygen tank and self contained respirator mask


    It is pointless to use anything that is flame retardent if the family uses fabric softener in the washer or the drier. This removes the chemicals from the clothing thus rendering it useless!

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    Thank you all for this information! If any of it was fire-retardant at the outset, it's gone now, for I have washed every piece. I will feel confident now to go ahead and make the charity quilts. You all are great!

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    flannel for sleepware has a chemical added to it to keep if from being flammable- the chemical washes away after about 20 washes-
    the flannels in the store has to by law state it does not have the chemical added-
    it is perfectly fine to make quilts with- your just not supposed to make pajamas with it.
    none of your bedding has the chemicals added to them-

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    flannel for sleepware has a chemical added to it to keep if from being flammable- the chemical washes away after about 20 washes-
    the flannels in the store has to by law state it does not have the chemical added-
    it is perfectly fine to make quilts with- your just not supposed to make pajamas with it.
    none of your bedding has the chemicals added to them-

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptquilts
    The problem is, kids in PJ's near a gas burner on the stove - that's why they want it to be flame-resistant. Quilts usually don't get near the stove, so I wouldn't worry about it.
    Just to clarify there is a difference between fire RESISTANT and fire RETARDENT. Fire-retardant materials are designed to burn slowly, in contrast to fire- resistant materials, which are designed not to burn at all.

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    the thing also about the resistant materials is that yes they don't catch fire but they do melt to you in many cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptquilts
    The problem is, kids in PJ's near a gas burner on the stove - that's why they want it to be flame-resistant. Quilts usually don't get near the stove, so I wouldn't worry about it.
    Flame resistant means it will only melt and stick to skin, like plastic.
    A plastic milk jug will not burn, but it will melt. Sorry about the gruesomeness, but retardant and resistant have two different meanings.

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    A little girl's nightie will go up like a roman candle when expose to flame (candle, gas stove) not as dangerous with close fitting PJ but still flammable if not flame resistant. However the flame resistant chemicals I have heard are toxic when burning. What are you supposed to do? I think that in quilts, flame resistance is not required?

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    They're toxic all of the time. Google PBDE's (a common group of chemicals of this type) and see what comes up. They show up on lists of common problem chemicals that kids are exposed to. I refuse to let my kids wear anything that is flame resistant. We have smoke detectors and a sprinkler system, and I can put him in close-fitting clothes. I will not knowingly dress him in something slathered in toxic chemicals. Ok, off soapbox now.

    Go ahead and make your quilt. I think it's safer if it's not flame-resistant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tartan
    A little girl's nightie will go up like a roman candle when expose to flame (candle, gas stove) not as dangerous with close fitting PJ but still flammable if not flame resistant. However the flame resistant chemicals I have heard are toxic when burning. What are you supposed to do? I think that in quilts, flame resistance is not required?

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    They started labeling the fabric like that because back in the 70's and 80's there were a lot of cases of pj's catching on fire and if it isn't flame retardent it clings to thier skin. You can use it in quilts just not for wearable pjs

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    This is a great thread; I've wondered this myself when grandbabies have been added to the family. Never really worried about the blankets and quilts because they don't necessarily "sleep" with them but always wondered about pjs; older toddlers not so much. Never really gave much thought to the fact that the treatment washes out - now I won't be so concerned when it comes time to make those Christmas Jammies. Thanks for all the info.

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    Well, the things you learn on this site are just amazing!

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    I always wonder what the mfg and or goverment expects us to do with flannel with such warning.

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