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    Judy Niemeyer pattern.

    I am taking a JN muliday workshop. If you don't know her she does this:http://www.quiltworx.com/patterns/

    The first half of the day we cut and cut and cut. Okay I'm game with this new way. We get to sewing. I cut one whole section using the wrong print fabric so I cut fabric big enough to cover the spots I needed like in regular paper piecing and it worked fine. I sat and looked at all that fussy cutting on individual papers and thought Really? LOL I'll continue sewing as the instructor says because it is her class. Maybe I'll learn more tomorrow as of why it's easier being a longer way.
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    You go, girl! This is why I often have trouble in workshops and classes. It's just plain hard to do things a different way when what you've been doing for a long time is so much better for you! And not so foolish!
    I admit, I once took a class at the International Quilt Festival with a friend who was just dying to take this one class. Unfortunately, I knew of the teacher and how she taught, so I insisted we sit in the back of the class. I walked my friend through the whole thing as if we were at home doing it, LOL! My way! Because after all, it really, honestly, was so much easier. (And she admitted about an hour into it that she really did waste her money on that teacher, LOL!) (I'm so bad. But I swear the teacher was oblivious to us; there were some 30 students in that class!)

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    I think my comment is for both of you ladies. I like paper piecing and decided to take a JN class. It was taken over several weeks. The teacher would demonstrate as she was taught (certified JN teacher). I tried it her way and soon was doing it 'my way'. I was told that I was a rebel. I felt that the object was to complete the units so they work together to complete the quilt as the pattern was designed. I was soon doing my own thing and keeping my mouth closed. I learned a lot but not all of it was useful. I am glad I took the class and I would do another design by JN but I would use my techniques.

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    I have one of JN's patterns but haven't tried it yet. I have done other designers' PP patterns though. I also like to get all the cutting done ahead of time and then jump into sewing in an assembly line style. So I guess her class would work for me. I figure if you got something out of the class then it wasn't a loss for you. Also if you were able to get her pattern done, again a plus for you so no total loss. We all have various ways we do things and yes, its hard to change at our age. My neighbor works on one block at a time as I do the assembly line method. Both works and we get the same end result.
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    Hi, I'm on my 3rd JN pattern. Tried cutting all those little pieces and then tried to match them to the paper pieces pattern. Ppfff! My pieces were too small. I strip piece her quilts. I cut the strips about the size of the pattern. Sew them all and trim. It's massively easier. Unless you are a OCD perfectionist. I'm not. I'm a kinda sorta person.I
    Try measuring the piece, adding the seam allowance and I add a bit just in case. Take into account the angle of the piece.
    Like I said, I'm on my 3rd one of her quilts. They turn out stunning. Good luck.

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    I have made one JN quilt ( https://www.quiltingboard.com/pictur...l-t270708.html ). I did not take a class so I read the instructions with the pattern about 3 times until I was sure I understood. It was my understanding from the pattern that the reason for the precutting was to get the least amount of fabric waste and by having the rough shape of the pattern piece already cut out the piecer avoids the pitfall of many PP which is that sometimes those odd angles are difficult to visualize and place so you end up with not enough fabric covering the pattern piece. Additionally I believe she is taking grain into consideration so perhaps her layout of the templates has a purpose when it comes to bias so the complex patterns don't stretch out of shape in critical areas.

    I did not cut the way that was illustrated in the pattern. Instead I measured the largest length/width of each unit and cut strips of fabric to that measurement and then I utilized the templates to get the correct angles from my precuts. I did not have any issues with any of the pieces being too small.


    I do love her patterns and while on the spendy side, because they include all the foundations, I would not hesitate to do another.

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    I'm another that loves her designs - yet does not follow her method. I'd already done quite a bit of PP before one of hers, and read through the directions and knew there was no way I was going to it that way.

    I only worry about grain if I've got curves to deal with. I have no problem dealing with stretch when you don't need it, but if you need to ease around a curve and need stretch, you'd better have it.
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    Your experience is one of the reasons I don't take classes. I am an efficiency freak and like to do things the fastest and easiest way possible. I find that many teachers aren't as interested in efficiency. It's their prerogative since it's their class. I just get so annoyed that I am better off sewing by myself.
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    I find Judy's precutting causes more waste than other methods, but is much quicker if you are doing the project as chain piecing, working on all the blocks of that segment at the same time. I can do PP either way, but usually just go ahead and do it Judy's way on her patterns.
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    I did learn how to be more organized. I didn't do it my way in class that would be rude to the instructor who was actually very nice and knew her stuff. I detest reading patterns so made myself read as I went. I'm glad I did take the workshop, at least I know how to do JN pattern any way I want.
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    I am in the process of making fractured paintbox. The instructor was very helpful. She got me organized and now I can do it myself. I made a regular JN pattern - it was a leaf. My son had it framed and hung it on a wall and it looks great. I had the hardest time with that one until the instructor set it all up in order. Then I zipped through it. I don’t know how many more of them I will do.
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    I am really glad to see that some of you have had success paper piecing a JN pattern without following her system. I have a couple of her patterns, they are too pretty to resist but I have heard people say they are too complicated if you don't follow her steps. I haven't tackled the patterns yet because I did a class with all the templates etc. and I hated it but I really enjoy strip piecing when I paper piece. Maybe I will give it a go.
    Which pattern are you working on in your class onebyone? I hope you enjoy the class as it gets farther into the quilt.

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    I'm glad is just isn't me that doesn't like to precut the pieces. It seems like a royal pain then you have to remember which pieces go where.
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    The pattern is the Lakeshore Hosta. Three day workshop with followup classes once a month until done. The followup classes are my option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieLou View Post
    I'm glad is just isn't me that doesn't like to precut the pieces. It seems like a royal pain then you have to remember which pieces go where.
    That is where I learned to organize the pieces. Wonder clips, ziplocks, and a clear workspace saved my sanity.
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    ziplock Bags really help to keep my organized. I have a small tote filled with them, and keep reusing them as needed. I really like precutting, I just cut smaller pieces.
    My name is Cathy - and I'm addicted to old sewing machines and their attachments.

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    If one is going to take a class from someone -
    maybe it's a good idea to put one's other ideas aside for the time being -
    and pay attention to the instructor's methods?

    I know that I have missed things because I was so busy thinking about doing something "my way" - that I missed the point of what the instructor was trying to teach/illustrate/explain.

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    I wish some of you lived closer to have a 1:1 class to learn your "short cut ways". I'm a "learn it by looking and doing" person, so a smaller group would be best for me....which is why I stay clear of classes

    Oh how I love JN patterns, though!

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    I agree always do as the instructors shows. Why pay for a class and then do it your way? May as well teach the class yourself. Things click in my mind as a better way for me and I make note of it on my pattern. I always learn something from every class I have taken. I take all the classes available that I can. The ones I think I won't enjoy seem to be the most fun ones!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan in VA View Post
    You go, girl! This is why I often have trouble in workshops and classes. It's just plain hard to do things a different way when what you've been doing for a long time is so much better for you! And not so foolish!
    I admit, I once took a class at the International Quilt Festival with a friend who was just dying to take this one class. Unfortunately, I knew of the teacher and how she taught, so I insisted we sit in the back of the class. I walked my friend through the whole thing as if we were at home doing it, LOL! My way! Because after all, it really, honestly, was so much easier. (And she admitted about an hour into it that she really did waste her money on that teacher, LOL!) (I'm so bad. But I swear the teacher was oblivious to us; there were some 30 students in that class!)

    I have mellowed with advanced age, I promise.
    This cracks me up! I'm virtually unteachable when I have made up my mind about how I want to do something. I sign up for Craftsy classes and look at lots of Youtube tutorials, and I do learn a lot along the way, but not necessarily what the teacher is trying to get across. And yeah, the older I get the less I care about conforming to someone else's way to doing things.

    There's an old story about someone cutting a roast in half before putting it in her nice, big oven. Her husband asks her why and she says, "I don't know, but it's the way Mom does it." So he asks her mom, and she says, "I don't know, it's the way my mom always did it." Eventually they find the grandma's old cook book, and there in the margin next to roast beef is a note that says, "If it's too big for the oven, cut it in half." I won't be cutting any roasts (or quilt pieces) without knowing why!
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    I agree with you, Onebyone. Some classes are just not for you: case in point - I took a computer design class because I thought that I wanted to buy the software. Best use of money I have every had! I couldn't stand the software: too complicated, NOT intuitive, difficult to use, and had to purchase all the libraries separately at over $100 each! That class was the best $35 investment I ever made.

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    Beautiful pattern onebyone, well worth sticking it out in the class to end up with a quilt like that.

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    "I strip piece her quilts. I cut the strips about the size of the pattern. Sew them all and trim".
    Sewingitalltogether , quoted above..or others doing it this way...can you describe what/ how you do that? I love stip piecing, but hate pp.

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    I too have had poor experiences in classes. Sometimes it's the teachers and sometimes it's me.

    I had planned to go to a JN class, but was unable to attend. I'm glad I didn't. The only thing that was accomplished in the two day class was cutting out the pattern and a few pieces. The ladies are going to have another go at it in the spring.

    I found an 18-part Youtube video for the pattern Fractured Star and will study it along with the pattern before I even begin to hopefully be ahead of the curve. I'm hoping the video class will contain enough clear information that I can work on my own.

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    stitch678...there is a class on Craftsy on Quick Strip Paper Piecing that is amazing. The only way I have ever been able to figure out PP.

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