Not to keep stirring the pot, but....
08-28-2010, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Deborah12687
Originally Posted by quilterguy27
Thanks Deborah! This helped clear the muddy water a bit. I don't know if I'm just dumb or what, but I STILL don't get it. Is there a way to interpret this into laymans terms so we can all understand it?
I know I'm not that dumb. I've been college educated. I know it can't be just me that can't grasp this concept. I've read so many articles and statutes and stories on this website and that concerning copyright laws and who can do what and I'm just as confused now as ever. I really think they do this on purpose just to keep us confused. If we don't understand it, maybe we won't challenge it.
I know I'm not that dumb. I've been college educated. I know it can't be just me that can't grasp this concept. I've read so many articles and statutes and stories on this website and that concerning copyright laws and who can do what and I'm just as confused now as ever. I really think they do this on purpose just to keep us confused. If we don't understand it, maybe we won't challenge it.
08-28-2010, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobbin along
Well, just for the record, my avatar is called Fireworks, and it was designed by Renee Peterson. It does have elements of New York Beauty, but believe me, there is a whole lot of creativity that went into this. I asked her permission to use it on line (I made the one shown here) and she told me to "Go forth and show people what you are doing!" It is copywrited and appeared in McCall's mag at the end of the year, 2009.
There now my conscience is clear! Thanks, Renee!
There now my conscience is clear! Thanks, Renee!
08-28-2010, 01:39 PM
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I have to agree with Conniequilts and quiltmaker. How can they be new and how can you claim them as your "original" work?
08-28-2010, 01:42 PM
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As many have said, there are just way too many blocks out in the public domain with instructions on how to make them. So, what ever would you need to buy a magazine and use a pattern out of it to copy something someone else did? also, just learned my Mother just bought me three quilting books. Two of them have the same copyright statement in them and the third one has no copyright statement in it anywhere. She said she went thru it 3 times with a magnifying glass and couldn't find anything. Now that's a book I want and will use. Somebody's got the right idea.
08-28-2010, 02:03 PM
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I keep thinking about something:
When a designer writes on his/her pattern (Only for personal use, may not sell items made from this pattern.) I can't help but think about what happens in the future.
For example, suppose I really like a pattern and I make 5 or 6 quilts. I just put them in my stash and they stay there until I die. Okay now say I have a mean Uncle Harry (I don't) and he doesn't want anything I made. So he sells the quilts to get the money because he is mean and greedy, or he auctions them off with the rest of my stuff. Now according to their copywright, Mean Uncle Harry is breaking the law and doesn't even know about it. How would they like to handle this, or does he catch a break because he is dumb.
When a designer writes on his/her pattern (Only for personal use, may not sell items made from this pattern.) I can't help but think about what happens in the future.
For example, suppose I really like a pattern and I make 5 or 6 quilts. I just put them in my stash and they stay there until I die. Okay now say I have a mean Uncle Harry (I don't) and he doesn't want anything I made. So he sells the quilts to get the money because he is mean and greedy, or he auctions them off with the rest of my stuff. Now according to their copywright, Mean Uncle Harry is breaking the law and doesn't even know about it. How would they like to handle this, or does he catch a break because he is dumb.
08-28-2010, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Sadiemae
I keep thinking about something:
When a designer writes on his/her pattern (Only for personal use, may not sell items made from this pattern.) I can't help but think about what happens in the future.
For example, suppose I really like a pattern and I make 5 or 6 quilts. I just put them in my stash and they stay there until I die. Okay now say I have a mean Uncle Harry (I don't) and he doesn't want anything I made. So he sells the quilts to get the money because he is mean and greedy, or he auctions them off with the rest of my stuff. Now according to their copywright, Mean Uncle Harry is breaking the law and doesn't even know about it. How would they like to handle this, or does he catch a break because he is dumb.
When a designer writes on his/her pattern (Only for personal use, may not sell items made from this pattern.) I can't help but think about what happens in the future.
For example, suppose I really like a pattern and I make 5 or 6 quilts. I just put them in my stash and they stay there until I die. Okay now say I have a mean Uncle Harry (I don't) and he doesn't want anything I made. So he sells the quilts to get the money because he is mean and greedy, or he auctions them off with the rest of my stuff. Now according to their copywright, Mean Uncle Harry is breaking the law and doesn't even know about it. How would they like to handle this, or does he catch a break because he is dumb.
08-28-2010, 03:37 PM
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Deborah12687 Thank you! That makes sense, but I can see abuse coming with these types of situations. "I didn't know!" said the little old gentleman.
I think these laws need to rewritten like someone else said, but I don't see that happening any time soon.
I think these laws need to rewritten like someone else said, but I don't see that happening any time soon.
08-28-2010, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by gaigai
A lot of this stuff-ok most of it-- is addressed in these articles. Relax ladies.
http://www.tabberone.com/Trademarks/...uiltThis.shtml
http://www.tabberone.com/Trademarks/...Quilting.shtml
http://www.tabberone.com/Trademarks/...uiltThis.shtml
http://www.tabberone.com/Trademarks/...Quilting.shtml
08-28-2010, 04:30 PM
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Doesn't apply to me, I give almost all of my quilts away.
I don't take any quilting magazines and haven't for years. Not renewing anyother mag.s I get, too busy making quilts and get tired of them laying around.
I don't take any quilting magazines and haven't for years. Not renewing anyother mag.s I get, too busy making quilts and get tired of them laying around.
08-28-2010, 04:45 PM
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Sorry guys. Read all of the posts and the articles sited still can't figure it out. I understand why a teacher using someone elses pattern should get the permission of the designer before using it in a class but what about say posting a picture on this web site. Would I have to get the designers written permission? Would just naming her book, much like a footnote in a thesis, satify any legal obligation?
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