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Old 08-30-2010, 08:54 AM
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To add to all of this discussion: what about resale shops and garage sales selling either quilts themselves, or the patterns or CDs that probably have a copyright on them somewhere. And Goodwill and other thrift shops don't hesitate in selling these things. Who is going to police all these different ways that these copyrighted products are used or abused?
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Old 08-30-2010, 09:28 AM
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I was interested in knowing what the original copyright restrictions on instructions for the Jane A Stickle Quilt actually are. Here is the reprint from their authorized website: This is a quote:

"Dear Jane is a registered trademark from the book
"Dear Jane, The Two Hundred Twenty-Five Patterns from the 1863 Jane A. Stickle Quilt" by Brenda M. Papadakis.

Sharon's Dear Jane ŪPages 1999-2005


Permission is granted for use by Dear Janers to use on his/her personal computer, website, or for use in a Dear Jane teaching class or guild function. If using for a class, please give credit to me, Sharon Mastbrook, as the creator of the Virtual Design Wall and various piecing tutorials.

From: http://www.smastbrook.net/dj/dj.htm
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So if you are interested in doing very intricate work. They will give you instructions on how to do it free of charge. You can use it in a class as well and for guild purposes.

You see, these people actually did some excellent work for all of us, collecting, explaining, publishing. And they do not seem too tight on copyrights either.

Then there are the not authorized sites, hangers on, single-mindedly trying to make a buck on work, which they have not done.
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Old 08-30-2010, 11:40 AM
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ok. do you realize you just violated the website copyright by copying and pasting their words into your comment? :lol:

that's why we use hyperlinks directly to the source. ;-)
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Old 08-30-2010, 11:57 AM
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I wonder if it's the same with dress etc, patterns. If a person brings me a pattern, and I make it for her and charge her for making it, is that a violation??
I can think of some other situations where a person might use a clothing or craft pattern and sell the items at a church bazaar or fair. What about something like that? Is that a criminal offense? 8-)
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Old 08-30-2010, 12:03 PM
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that question is already answered somewhere in here.

or is it in the other topic going right now that also complains about copyrights?

i'm getting mixed up. :lol:
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Old 08-30-2010, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by PatriceJ
that question is already answered somewhere in here.

or is it in the other topic going right now that also complains about copyrights?

i'm getting mixed up. :lol:
Hmmmm ... I didn't see it here, but I may have jumped over some.
Anyhow, do you remember what the answer was??

8-)
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Old 08-30-2010, 12:11 PM
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that really makes me mad, the patterns were public domain and then somebody went and copyrighted them.

Originally Posted by bearisgray
There are some patterns and designs that appear to me to be truly original.

Where things get stuck in my craw is when someone takes old stand by blocks - like 9-patch, shoo-fly, variable star, rail fence - and then claims a copyright for the pattern.
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Old 08-30-2010, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bearisgray
Interestingly enough, the quilt made by Jane A. Stickle - completed during the civil war - seems to be a money maker for the author of the Dear Jane book, Brenda Manges Papadakis.
People find the original quilt charming, and Papadakis wrote down some instructions how to make those squares.
Her instructions are copyrighted.
Anyone could probably look at the original quilt and reproduce fairly accurately the patches that make up the quilt, but it's a lot of work,
and buying someone's already-developed instructions is waaay easier than making it all up from scratch.
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Old 08-30-2010, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PatriceJ
ok. do you realize you just violated the website copyright by copying and pasting their words into your comment? :lol:

that's why we use hyperlinks directly to the source. ;-)
Probably not. There is a "fair usage" element to the law, which allows for properly credited small quotings for the purpose of critique and review.
This quoting was so short that it gives away nothing of the patterns in the book, and is properly quoted.
It's legal.
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Old 08-30-2010, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by purplefiend
that really makes me mad, the patterns were public domain and then somebody went and copyrighted them.
Possibly, because techniques and methods of making quilts have changed so much over the decades,
it is their new "way" of making the blocks,
ie using rotary techniques and shortcuts for HST and the like,
that are what they can copyright, not the geometric design of the block.
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