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vharris 04-29-2011 05:50 AM

I am stuck! If I want a finished 9 patch of 5 inches what size would I cut my squares?

donnajean 04-29-2011 05:53 AM

You would have to divide 5" x 3 then add 1/2" for seam allowance. It would be easier if your finished 9patch was 6".

For a 6" finished 9 patch, you would cut the squares 2 1/2"

vharris 04-29-2011 06:06 AM

If I went with 6 than I would cut my squares 6 1/2 right. Thanks for helping me

erstan947 04-29-2011 06:13 AM

If you cut your squares 6½ you would have a finished block of 18". Do a sample block and use 9 2½" blocks this should give you a 6 ½" unfinished 6" finished block. I always use scraps and do a sample block to check my cutting, ¼" seams and finished size:)

ckcowl 04-29-2011 06:19 AM

2" squares will give you a 5 1/2" block

MTS 04-29-2011 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by ckcowl
2" squares will give you a 5 1/2" block

That will finish at 4.5" square (5" unfinished). ;-)

irishrose 04-29-2011 06:48 AM

2 1/4" will finish at 5 1/4". That's about as close as you can get without using hard to measure amounts.

vharris 04-29-2011 07:49 AM

Here is my problem and maybe you can help me. I seen a quilt on this board that I loved. It has 3 braided panels . So I made mine 7 inches finished, and it has 3 white panels 7 inches finished which gives me a total width of 35 inches wide. Then they made 9 patches for the second outside border. I cute my first outside border 3 inches which would be 2 1/2 inches finished. So now I can't cut my 9 patches 7 1/2 unfinished because they no longer fit. I don't know what size to cut my 9 patches or white squares to make it fit around the first border. There is another white border that goes on after you do you 9 patches. So the second border is a 9 patch, than a white square, another 9 patch and than a white square and so on. Can you help me?

MTS 04-29-2011 08:40 AM

should that be 2 white panels?


so it's

braid - whitepanel - braid - whitepanel - braid = 35" finished

and around all that is a 2.5 finished white border.

So now you're at 37.5" FINISHED, right?

et correct my lousy math - it's now 40" finished.

Is that white border sewn on yet? Do you have more of that fabric?

vharris 04-29-2011 08:46 AM

Your are right there are only 2 white panels. Yes I have sewn the border on but I can unpick it if I need to.

vharris 04-29-2011 08:48 AM

I am not sure what length my sides are though. Will we need to know that?

amma 04-29-2011 08:54 AM

It would help to know the length and width of the top, at this point :D:D:D

vharris 04-29-2011 08:57 AM

The width of the top and bottom without any border is 35 inches.

MTS 04-29-2011 08:58 AM

Duh, me.

It's not 37.5, it's now 40" across with the border.


And the length is.....???

vharris 04-29-2011 09:07 AM

Unfortunately I am stuck at work and my husband isn't anwering the phone. If we figured out the top wouldn't I do the sides the same way? I am so sorry, I am such a rookie!

MTS 04-29-2011 09:09 AM

Is the quilt top square?

If, yes, then we can find a solution.
That would be much easier.

But I didn't know if the length was 50" or 70". So that matters if you might add "coping" strips to make the borders fit.

I'm guessing you're not working directly from a pattern - more from the picture. So if a border had to be a bit smaller or larger, you don't really care, right?
(which is really the way I like to do it myself ;-) )

And I get NOW why you wanted the 5" 9patches.


Also, ooc, are the 9 patches a mix of the braid fabrics and the white, or are they all scrappy braid fabrics?

vharris 04-29-2011 09:17 AM

The 9 patches are a mix of trhe braid fabrics and white. I am thinking the length was 60 inches. There was a total of 9 - 9 patches and 9 white patches totaling 18.

vharris 04-29-2011 09:17 AM

Whoops no white fabric in the braids; just the colors.

keesha_ont 04-30-2011 02:44 AM

how about putting a sashing strip on first and then the border so you get a good size 9 patch

justlooking 04-30-2011 03:32 AM

We all start somewhere!

Grambi 04-30-2011 05:06 AM

Wow! I'm so confused! I want to see a picture of this quilt when you finish.

When I'm trying to figure out a difficult measurement issue, I sometimes plot it out on graph paper using colored pencils You might try that.

janb 04-30-2011 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by vharris
I am stuck! If I want a finished 9 patch of 5 inches what size would I cut my squares?

I usually make a patch in paper, folding the 1/4 " seam allowance over, then measure it out. Takes some time, but better than wasting fabric.

bearisgray 04-30-2011 06:21 AM

If you cut the squares to 2.25 (2-1/4) and sewed them with a full quarter inch seam (versus a scant quarter inch seam) you might end up with a piece really close to 5.5 inches (unfinished size)

If it's only a smidge oversized, I think it would be feasible to trim the blocks down to the desired sze.

The technical size to cut the squares would be 2-1/6 inches - which most rulers don't have.

1/6 = 0.167
3/16 = 0.189
1/4 = 0.25

JoanneS 04-30-2011 06:29 AM

If there's a 'smidge' of difference, you can actually ease it in. No matter how accurately you plan it, you'll probably wind up doing some easing anyway. We all do that!

linhawk 04-30-2011 08:12 AM

Which quilt is it?


Originally Posted by vharris
Here is my problem and maybe you can help me. I seen a quilt on this board that I loved. It has 3 braided panels . So I made mine 7 inches finished, and it has 3 white panels 7 inches finished which gives me a total width of 35 inches wide. Then they made 9 patches for the second outside border. I cute my first outside border 3 inches which would be 2 1/2 inches finished. So now I can't cut my 9 patches 7 1/2 unfinished because they no longer fit. I don't know what size to cut my 9 patches or white squares to make it fit around the first border. There is another white border that goes on after you do you 9 patches. So the second border is a 9 patch, than a white square, another 9 patch and than a white square and so on. Can you help me?


patdesign 04-30-2011 10:08 AM

Im a visual person here, so my head is swimming with all the math, it will take me a day to figure it out.LOL:D

jpthequilter 04-30-2011 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by ckcowl
2" squares will give you a 5 1/2" block

That gives you a 1/4 inch seam all around the four sides to get a 5 inch finished sewn square block. JP

MTS 04-30-2011 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by jpthequilter

Originally Posted by ckcowl
2" squares will give you a 5 1/2" block

That gives you a 1/4 inch seam all around the four sides to get a 5 inch finished sewn square block. JP

Ok, once again (already posted upthread).


A 2" square finishes at 1.5" square.

Three 1.5" squares across in a 9-patch block will result in a 4.5" finished block.

Which would be 5" unfinished.

Really.

MissBarbQuilts 04-30-2011 03:29 PM

And you wondered why you had to take algebra! Reading the back and forth on this is high entertainment. Thanks!

MissBarbQuilts 04-30-2011 03:32 PM

And you wondered why you had to take algebra! Reading the back and forth on this is high entertainment. Thanks!

MTS 04-30-2011 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by MissBarbQuilts
And you wondered why you had to take algebra! Reading the back and forth on this is high entertainment. Thanks!

I'm glad you're amused. :mrgreen:

But it's hardly algebra. ;-)

theresa.redington 04-30-2011 04:49 PM

You would have to cut your square 2 1/6 inch (this includes your two 1/4 inch seams). It would be a lot easier to make a 6" block and cut 2 1/2" squares.

(5 divide by 3 = 1 and 4/6 plus 1/2 inch = 2 1/6")

deranged_damsel 04-30-2011 05:06 PM

if I had already cut and sewn the 9patch blocks... I would be tempted to trim the finished block down a little bit ;) nobody would notice!

bearisgray 05-01-2011 03:53 AM


Originally Posted by theresa.redington
You would have to cut your square 2 1/6 inch (this includes your two 1/4 inch seams). It would be a lot easier to make a 6" block and cut 2 1/2" squares.

(5 divide by 3 = 1 and 4/6 plus 1/2 inch = 2 1/6")

Yes - it would be easier to make a 6 inch block - but the person wants/needs these blocks to fit in a 5 inch space.

NannaJen 05-02-2011 03:52 AM

To acheive a 5" finished 9 patch you would need to cut your individual squares 2 & 3/16th inches square (being 1" & 11/16ths plus 1/2" seam allowance) and even this leavesyou 1/16th" out. It would be much easier to use a finished measurement easier divisable by 3: i.e. 6" finished, using 2" squares.
If 5" finished is essential,you would have to make that minute adjustment either by adding the 1/16th to middle three squares or forgetting it as it is so minimal, --- haven't really got an answer for that one.

vharris 05-02-2011 09:23 AM

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Guess what I did it! I still have the last white border to put on but wanted to post a picture so you would see the quilt. Let me know what you think. I think that it is fun! I really just wanted to make something with pink and green so I pulled whatever I thought would work. The neat thing is it all came together for me.

vharris 05-02-2011 09:24 AM

The colors are a lot brighter than what the picture shows.

MTS 05-02-2011 09:27 AM

It came out great. Coping squares are very useful! ;-)

Wonderful spring-y colors.

bearisgray 05-05-2011 05:56 AM

Very cheerful and spring looking quilt.

It has a nice fresh look about it.

vharris 05-05-2011 06:19 AM

Thanks everyone for all of your advise and support! I appreciate this website so much. I seen the quilt from another member and loved it so much! I would be lost without this website! :P


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