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Buckeye Rose 10-22-2012 06:24 PM

adding borders...question?
 
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I finally have this quilt done to the point of adding the borders. All four edges have 9-patches, on point, that will have to be trimmed. My question is do I trim them first, then add borders? Or mark the lines and sew down the first border and then trim? Which is easiest? This pic is before I fixed the orientation of a couple of 9-patches...LOL.

HillCountryGal 10-22-2012 06:30 PM

Having never done exactly what you're doing, I can't give you an answer based on experience.
Doubt it would make much difference either way, as long as your seam is straight.
Looks good to me!

piepatch 10-22-2012 06:33 PM

I have never done anything quite like that, but just looking at it, I think I would have to trim first.

b.zang 10-22-2012 06:33 PM

I prefer to sew two matching edges together. If I were sewing that, I would trim my quilt to square before sewing on the border.

asimplelife 10-22-2012 06:41 PM

I would trim first so that your intersections in the 9 patch blocks and setting triangles are easier to match to your 1/4 seam when you sew on the borders.

Jan in VA 10-22-2012 07:04 PM

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Because trimming the 9-patch blocks will leave you with bias edges (I don't know whether some of your setting triangles might also be this way), you might want to stabilize the edges with this trick first. You can buy the twill tape at chain fabric stores in the section with rick rack, seam binding, and hem tape.

Jan in VA

Tartan 10-22-2012 07:08 PM

I would recommend stay stitching the edge before trimming or add tape as Jan mentioned. I think I would be tempted to leave them on and draw a line to match up the border to and sew the border on. I would trim after the border is on and everything looked good. If you have to make any adjustments, the fabric is still there.

bigsister63 10-22-2012 07:15 PM

I suggest that you trim first. It is easier to get even straight line with 1/4" seam allowance. Also it should be easier to trim excess fabric. by using ruler to trim to 1/4" seam it will allow you to see if points line up and if you need to resew.

spokanequilter 10-22-2012 08:41 PM

I think I would also trim first - even if that exposes bias edges. You can stabilize them by stay stitching or tape as others have said. I think you would want to get the top nice and square before you add the borders.

katier825 10-23-2012 01:34 AM

When I added the borders to the french braid, I marked the edge 1/4" out from the finished seam location and matched up the border to that, sewed it, then trimmed it. I think it's a bit more stable that way. Starch helps!

AliKat 10-23-2012 02:19 AM

If you have time and $ and don't want extra thickness, then cut washaway stabilizer in strips and place ofer wher you will be cutting and then sew and trim away excess quilt.

If you cut first you chance stretching the cut bias edges and would probably have a wobbly border and bound edges.

ali

Buckeye Rose 10-23-2012 05:49 AM

OK.....so the jury vote is mixed.....LOL....when it comes time to mark and trim, whether done before adding border or after, how do you line up your marks?....I only have a 24" ruler, so will only be able to do one patch to the next, then move the ruler again.....how do I keep it square?.....will I be ok doing it that way?

bigsister63 10-23-2012 08:07 AM

Yes you have to move the ruler as you trim. It is helpful to lay it out on a large surface when triming. That said- I also sew with the points on top so I can make sure I am sewing close enough to the points but not over them. Even if I have to adjust seam allowance( make smaller /larger) to keep points even. I just made a "Winning hand " quilt and E. Burns said that block could be squared up with 1/4" seam allowance or 1/2". The 1/2" seam will allow the points to "float" so sram width errors will not be so noticible. Or another idea I heard is to "snap a chalk line" up the side of the quilt and use that as your cutting line. Haven't tried that yet but sound like a good idea!!!! Also make sure you measure your top through the middle when getting border length. Do not measure on the edge. That way if you do have stretch you can ease it in to the border fabric.

Jingle 10-23-2012 09:23 AM

I would run a row of straight sitiching about a 1/4" and trim odd the excess. Mark a faint line with 24" ruler and sew about 3/8" seam from the cut edge, insuring you won't loose your points. I like to float my points as opposed to loosing them. You will have about 1/8" of background to your border. This is what I would do. Others have great ideas too.

SusanErler 01-08-2014 12:32 PM

Is there any reason why you couldn't or shouldn't serge that first border on? Sew it and trim in one fell swoop? (As long as you pin the border carefully first without stretching it...)

I am getting ready to put on the borders on my first French Braid and I have a serger. Seems like it would do the trick, but wouldn't that leave a bulky seam in just that one line?

Dunno...

bjchad 01-08-2014 03:16 PM

Can I make an alternate suggestion? Why not fill the spaces between the nine patches with the same fabric as the first border and then add more border so the nine patches appear to stick into the border. It would be a bit fussy to do but would sure make things sing.

GrannieAnnie 01-08-2014 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by Buckeye Rose (Post 5605178)
I finally have this quilt done to the point of adding the borders. All four edges have 9-patches, on point, that will have to be trimmed. My question is do I trim them first, then add borders? Or mark the lines and sew down the first border and then trim? Which is easiest? This pic is before I fixed the orientation of a couple of 9-patches...LOL.


I'd prefer to see the solid triangles extended to the tips of the 9 patches.


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