Looking to buy a sceond machine, I have a pfaff Creative 4.0 , but just want a sewing machine, its a real drag to take off the embriodery unit every time you want to sew.
Any advice on theese machines.

I would try both but my preference is always Viking...because of the sensor foot...so I'd say 835

I was just at my viking store ans we were talking and my machine is from 89 and she called it a work horse if I ever get a new one it will be a viking

I love my babylock, don't have the elizabeth, but have never had a problem with mine, sews like a dream, very user friendly, love love love babylocks and brothers