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Go to Sally’s, they have soft squeeze bottles with a small tips for applying hair color. And the bottles are marked in ozs. <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="156"> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} </style> <![endif]--> |
I use 505 spray and never had any wrinkles when quilting it. I have not used glue for basting but always use it to bind.
Originally Posted by coopah
(Post 6398707)
I wondered about the fabric wrinkling...especially after seeing a demo of the canned spray do the same thing. So do the wrinkles go away with the quilting process or in the wash after it's done? Just wondering. Maybe I should try it on a small potholder or something.
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Originally Posted by 5moose
(Post 6397501)
I've never used this method but if I understand it......I thought you were supposed to use a GLUE STICK. The school glue stick. Maybe I'm wrong but it might make a difference.
This is the third time using this method and I do like it. |
Originally Posted by maviskw
(Post 6398917)
Because quilt basting spray is smelly and expensive.
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I wouldn't advise anyone to use a paintbrush unless you just do it in grid form or waves.
I "painted" a wall-hanging with Elmer's school glue once and it was as stiff as can be and very difficult to quilt. Imagine if that was a large quilt. Draw lines or waves but don't paint all over. |
I just got a pm from someone saying that the link I posted about the spray glue recipe (http://www.ehow.com/how_6598712_make...lue-spray.html) didn't work, so here is the recipe for anyone that needs it.
1.) Combine equal parts glue and water in the spray bottle. Shake until they are completely combined. 2.) Add 2-5 drops of dish soap to the glue mixture. 3.) Swirl the mixture gently with the tube from the the head of the bottle until the dish soap has been thoroughly mixed in. Tips and Tricks: Remove the sprayer from the spray bottle after each use and flush it out with warm water. Cover the bottle with plastic wrap and a rubber band to keep the glue from drying out. This will ensure that the nozzle does not get clogged. If you find that the nozzle gets clogged while you are using the glue spray, add a few more drops of dish soap. |
Originally Posted by SemiSweet
(Post 6399893)
I just got a pm from someone saying that the link I posted about the spray glue recipe (http://www.ehow.com/how_6598712_make...lue-spray.html) didn't work, so here is the recipe for anyone that needs it.
1.) Combine equal parts glue and water in the spray bottle. Shake until they are completely combined. 2.) Add 2-5 drops of dish soap to the glue mixture. 3.) Swirl the mixture gently with the tube from the the head of the bottle until the dish soap has been thoroughly mixed in. Tips and Tricks: Remove the sprayer from the spray bottle after each use and flush it out with warm water. Cover the bottle with plastic wrap and a rubber band to keep the glue from drying out. This will ensure that the nozzle does not get clogged. If you find that the nozzle gets clogged while you are using the glue spray, add a few more drops of dish soap. |
Thanks for the link, I use elmers glue a lot and this seems like it would work great. In regards to the glue stick,I use that only for attaching my bindings not basting quilt tops but I don't know why it would not work for both.
Originally Posted by SemiSweet
(Post 6397652)
I always dilute it to half water and half glue, that helps a ton. Make sure it's hot/warm water so it will easily mix. I've never had it wet still after letting it set out for an after noon and over night. If it does happen to still be wet though, you can run your iron over it to dry it a bit.
Next time I glue baste, I'm going to go a step further and try this method: http://www.ehow.com/how_6598712_make...lue-spray.html |
I use Elmers Washable School Glue all the time for basting. I will try the the diluting and spray bottle method for the next quilt in waiting. Sounds sooo much easier than laying my bottle on it's side to keep the glue flowing and squeezing. Next shopping trip will be to find that small spray bottle.
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I use an adjustable wrench to squeeze my glue bottles! Overkill, maybe, but really saves the hands. I baste on the floor - I stand over the quilt and drizzle full-strength glue right out of the bottle, it's a super fine line by the time it hits the batting. Bonus of using the wrench is it gives me a little more reach too, so I can easily scatter glue in the middle of the quilt without having to walk on it too much. (I do have to walk on it a little bit if it's a queen or larger though - I just make sure to start gluing in the middle and step very carefully in sock feet so as not to shift layers around.)
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Sewnoma - good idea! I am going to the garage to see what kind wrenches are out there. I am also wondering do different types of material not stick to the glue as well as others? I am working on a sweatshirt material for backing.. and its not doing very well at all...
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What is fray block? I found new tips at Walmart, in the craft section - used for decorative paint. There are 6 tips in 3 different sizes - works like a dream and a very small amount of glue comes out of the bottle.
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Hi meyert, I would never baste with glue, correction, I do use spray glue basting, put a tiny dob of Roxannes baste it glue to help in the corners of binding sometimes.I Guess I am an old fashioned gal, prefer to pin and stitch baste. Letty x
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Having started using Elmer's School Glue, I am a convert!! When I piece, I always apply the smallest dot to the seams and my seams match beautifully! No more seam creep under the presser foot. BUT, I too have the problem with thumb arthritis and squeezing the bottle. I'm taking a hint from this board and going to place some of the glue inside a small plastic bottle caps and use some kind of implement....maybe an old allen wrench from one of those put your own furniture together kits and use it to dab a small dot onto my seams. The squeezing motion does hurt.
So far, I only use spray basting but I agree, it's expensive and smelly. I think the diluted spray glue may do the trick. |
Originally Posted by meyert
(Post 6400771)
Sewnoma - good idea! I am going to the garage to see what kind wrenches are out there. I am also wondering do different types of material not stick to the glue as well as others? I am working on a sweatshirt material for backing.. and its not doing very well at all...
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Originally Posted by Marsh
(Post 6400821)
What is fray block? I found new tips at Walmart, in the craft section - used for decorative paint. There are 6 tips in 3 different sizes - works like a dream and a very small amount of glue comes out of the bottle.
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Originally Posted by Steady Stiching
(Post 6398618)
I put a gob of glue on a scrap of paper then draw the tip of a pin through the glue puddle picking up just the smallest dot, place dots about three or four inches apart, iron, add more dots, iron all the way around. No heavy build up of glue and I keep the glue in the middle of the binding so I dont hit any when I'm hand sewing it down.
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For those that don't know. Elmer's Washable School Glue is not a glue. It's a very dense starch product. It washes out like starch. When I stream the slightly diluted glue from the bottle it's as thin as thread. I don't open the tip all the way. It dries fast and holds up to pushing and pulling through my machine.
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Originally Posted by lclang
(Post 6400356)
What is the purpose of the dish soap?? Does the mixture mold if diluted?? I don't get it.
If you do use dish detergent/soap, make sure it's a very mild one! |
Originally Posted by SemiSweet
(Post 6397652)
I always dilute it to half water and half glue, that helps a ton. Make sure it's hot/warm water so it will easily mix. I've never had it wet still after letting it set out for an after noon and over night. If it does happen to still be wet though, you can run your iron over it to dry it a bit.
Next time I glue baste, I'm going to go a step further and try this method: http://www.ehow.com/how_6598712_make...lue-spray.html |
Originally Posted by cashs_mom
(Post 6401212)
Wow, I like that. Of course, my favorite part was that it can be used as hair glue. What the heck is hair glue? lol
Inquiring minds want to know! :shock: |
Here is another economical way to sandwich your quilts.
3 cups of water 1/2 tsp salt 8 ounces or rubbing alcohol clean spray bottle - In a pot place 2 cups of water and 1/2 tsp of salt bring to a boil and reduce to a gentle boil. - In a gravy shaker (or a jam jar) put 1 cup of cold water and 3 tbsp of flour - shake until the flour and water are combined. - Whisk the flour mixture into the gently boiling water like you are making gravy and let it cook until the consistency of gravy/egg whites/ thin gruel. - Remove from the heat and let it cool down to room temperature. - In a clean spray bottle add 8 ounces of rubbing alcohol and the cooled flour mixture, gently shake and go sandwich a quilt. |
Originally Posted by cashs_mom
(Post 6401212)
Wow, I like that. Of course, my favorite part was that it can be used as hair glue. What the heck is hair glue? lol
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Originally Posted by carslo
(Post 6402627)
Here is another economical way to sandwich your quilts.
3 cups of water 1/2 tsp salt 8 ounces or rubbing alcohol clean spray bottle - In a pot place 2 cups of water and 1/2 tsp of salt bring to a boil and reduce to a gentle boil. - In a gravy shaker (or a jam jar) put 1 cup of cold water and 3 tbsp of flour - shake until the flour and water are combined. - Whisk the flour mixture into the gently boiling water like you are making gravy and let it cook until the consistency of gravy/egg whites/ thin gruel. - Remove from the heat and let it cool down to room temperature. - In a clean spray bottle add 8 ounces of rubbing alcohol and the cooled flour mixture, gently shake and go sandwich a quilt. |
carslo thanks for this recipe. I don't think it would dry any faster because you have 3 cups water (24 oz.) to 8 oz alcohol would it?
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Originally Posted by misseva
(Post 6402660)
carslo thanks for this recipe. I don't think it would dry any faster because you have 3 cups water (24 oz.) to 8 oz alcohol would it?
If I want it to dry faster so I can FMQ that day, I iron each section after I spray it :) |
Originally Posted by carslo
(Post 6402627)
Here is another economical way to sandwich your quilts.
3 cups of water 1/2 tsp salt 8 ounces or rubbing alcohol clean spray bottle - In a pot place 2 cups of water and 1/2 tsp of salt bring to a boil and reduce to a gentle boil. - In a gravy shaker (or a jam jar) put 1 cup of cold water and 3 tbsp of flour - shake until the flour and water are combined. - Whisk the flour mixture into the gently boiling water like you are making gravy and let it cook until the consistency of gravy/egg whites/ thin gruel. - Remove from the heat and let it cool down to room temperature. - In a clean spray bottle add 8 ounces of rubbing alcohol and the cooled flour mixture, gently shake and go sandwich a quilt. PS I found the recipe from a woman who was making a quilt as you go and she said she had had no trouble. I have been using this method for over six months now and have left the sandwiched quilt for up to a month before I have finished it and washed it. I also read that the alcohol is supposed to deter the possible growth of mold. I live in soCal so not too moldy of a climate here. I really like this method the best of anything I do. I do iron the sections as I go along because I want to get right to FMQ the next day. This method makes the flattest sandwiches ever, good luck your project. |
Originally Posted by HouseDragon
(Post 6401247)
A HA!!!! Is hair glue how those dudes get their Mohawks to stand straight up?
Inquiring minds want to know! :shock: |
I'd love to see a candid-camera type segment of all of us with our glue bottles, spray bottles, brushes, toothpicks, wrenches, etc. :)
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Originally Posted by AngeliaNR
(Post 6404292)
I'd love to see a candid-camera type segment of all of us with our glue bottles, spray bottles, brushes, toothpicks, wrenches, etc. :)
(Or is that just me? LOL) |
Originally Posted by Sewnoma
(Post 6404889)
Hah! And of course most of us are probably in very comfortable but not very flattering clothes, covered in spare threads and cat hair...
(Or is that just me? LOL) |
Originally Posted by Sewnoma
(Post 6404889)
Hah! And of course most of us are probably in very comfortable but not very flattering clothes, covered in spare threads and cat hair...
(Or is that just me? LOL) |
This was a great subject. I've been using the Elmer's glue for binding...no one ever mentioned doing the whole quilt!! I love it for binding. Thanks everyone for some great ideas.
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Are you spying on me???
Originally Posted by AngeliaNR
(Post 6404292)
I'd love to see a candid-camera type segment of all of us with our glue bottles, spray bottles, brushes, toothpicks, wrenches, etc. :)
How did you know about my frowsy house dress then?? |
I'm resuscitating this thread. It's from 2013 but have any of you had problems using the homemade versions or have any new hints/tips on using it? Or new recipes?
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Basting with Elmer's Glue
I love basting with Washable Elmer's Glue. Years ago I bought some special tips that make a very fine stream. I just put those on the "blue back" labeled bottle of glue, which has been diluted (about 1/3), hold the bottle high and a very fine stream occurs on the batting. If globs appear, I take a small foam brush and gently smooth them out. I have found that if I weight my backing/batting down with my quilting rulers, mats, that it provides a better contact. I leave these items on the quilt for about 2-3 hours, then remove. Here is the link for the plastic glue tips. Note: these tips only fit the Elmer's Glue Bottles that have the "blue back" label. If the label is black, they will not fit.
https://purpledaisiesquilting.com/co...fine-glue-tips Happy quilting everyone. |
Basting with Elmer's Glue
Originally Posted by FoxyLady
(Post 8480478)
I love basting with Washable Elmer's Glue. Years ago I bought some special tips that make a very fine stream. I just put those on the "blue back" labeled bottle of glue, which has been diluted (about 1/3), hold the bottle high and a very fine stream occurs on the batting. If globs appear, I take a small foam brush and gently smooth them out. I have found that if I weight my backing/batting down with my quilting rulers, mats, that it provides a better contact. I leave these items on the quilt for about 2-3 hours, then remove. Here is the link for the plastic glue tips. Note: these tips only fit the Elmer's Glue Bottles that have the "blue back" label. If the label is black, they will not fit.
https://purpledaisiesquilting.com/co...fine-glue-tips Happy quilting everyone. |
Originally Posted by coopah
(Post 6398707)
I wondered about the fabric wrinkling...especially after seeing a demo of the canned spray do the same thing. So do the wrinkles go away with the quilting process or in the wash after it's done? Just wondering. Maybe I should try it on a small potholder or something.
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I love basting with Elmers Washable school glue. I don't have any issues with my hand/arms/shoulders/fingers/wrists with a gentle squeeze of the bottle and drizzle in a grid pattern. I sometimes sit the bottle in some warm water to make it easier to drizzle out. I am 20 plus quilts in, some as big as queen size, and I've never had a wrinkle, or not have it wash out. Once it is dry it doesn't gum up the needle or break needle/thread. If I get a glob, I use my finger to smooth it out. I don't have any sensory issues to prevent this. I don't find the need to dilute, it is very inexpensive, and I don't want to spray it on, because, so far I haven't found a need. I lay my batting down, lay the backing over it (it is just my habit to start with the backing), pull back the backing, drizzle glue on the batting, smooth it up and out and then go to the other side of the table and repeat. Then flip over and do top. I'm not usually in a hurry so dispense with ironing. By the time I am ready to quilt it is dry. I've tried pin basting, thread basting and spray basting. this is my favorite way.
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Thanks for the tip SemiSweet. Boy, if that works, I will save a bundle on spray baste!
I use a spray baste from JoAnn's. It does not smell. Back in the olden days, 2019, when my quilt guild met they would all cringe in horror when I whipped out my can of spray but they all found that it did not have that harsh chemical smell that is in some of the products. I just object to paying $18 a can and getting only 3 quilts done. The price has been rising over the years. I started out buying it at $14 per can and in 4 years is has gone up a dollar a year. Like the product but it is pricing me out. Will have to try the Elmer's School Glue method. |
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