I really want to get batik for this new project (specifically a watercolor batik or something similar), but (like with many things) I never worked with batik before. I don't want to find myself pre-washing a beautiful red batik and then end up with a white or pink piece of fabric. And I really don't want to go for a close substitute to batik unless I really have to...I'm not going to let fear stand in the way of me and a beautiful fabric for this quilt. So how should I handle a batik fabric (epessily a red one...I hear any fabric with red dye can be a troublesome)?
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I always pretreat batiks with Retayne. Retayne will set the dye as batiks always bleed. Use 1 tsp of Retayne for every yard of fabric. Soak in hot water for 20 minutes. Rinse and dry. The instructions are on the bottle.
I love working with batiks. Judy http://www.prochemical.com/directions/Retayne.htm |
Originally Posted by Judy Gail
I always pretreat batiks with Retayne. Retayne will set the dye as batiks always bleed. Use 1 tsp of Retayne for every yard of fabric. Soak in hot water for 20 minutes. Rinse and dry. The instructions are on the bottle.
I love working with batiks. Judy http://www.prochemical.com/directions/Retayne.htm |
I don't know. The instructions say to wash in warm water and rinse in cold. I think I would contact the company and ask if it is safe for children.
Batiks are notorious for bleeding. Although I have never tried it, you could try setting the dye with white vinegar. Before Retayne I used salt water but found I had to do it over and over and over again. Judy |
Originally Posted by Judy Gail
I don't know. The instructions say to wash in warm water and rinse in cold. I think I would contact the company and ask if it is safe for children.
Batiks are notorious for bleeding. Although I have never tried it, you could try setting the dye with white vinegar. Before Retayne I used salt water but found I had to do it over and over and over again. Judy |
Wow! Ya learn something new everyday!
I did not know batiks would bleed. I have some pretty ones just sitting on the shelf awaiting their fate. They are the kind that are "too pretty" to cut. |
I've never had any of my batik bleed, I've washed it the same as my other fabrics and never had a problem. Although i do wash in cold water, the dryer preshrinks it. I don't treat it any differently than cotton that I buy for quilting.
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This doesn't help. One says batiks bleed like crazy and one says they don't. Now I'm confused!
As far as the batik bleeding into the other fabric, that wouldn't be a problem since the dye wouldn't show up on the black background. I'm just concerned that if I wash batik like any other fabric it will change the color drastically...either dull the color or turn it into a pastel (Eew). |
Batiks often bleed a lot - especially reds and greens - but I have never seen a visible color change in the fabric afterward.
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I don't think I've had a batik that didn't bleed. Fill the sink with hot water and put your fabric in it. If it doesn't bleed you don't need to treat it. Or, I have read that you can tell if a fabric will bleed by putting a small sample of it in water and then in the microwave. I haven't tried the microwave test myself.
Judy |
The company that makes Retayne got back to me. This is what they told me.
Hi, Sam! Thank you for your interest in the products offered by PRO Chemical & Dye. Retayne is great used as a pre-treatment for commercially dyed fabrics that tend to bleed easily. This is done before the fabric is cut and pieced into a quilt, etc. As far as its safety around children, there is no data that indicates what might happen if they were to start handling and possibly chewing on the fabric like little babies might do. Fabric treated with Retayne needs to be cared for by washing in cool water, so any type of warm moisture may cause it to come off. Please let us know if we can be of any further assistance. Sincerely, Vicki Jensen Lab Manager PRO Chemical & Dye |
Wow, I guess I will not be using any where my quilts will be going to be around children or pets. ( my daughters dogs sometimes lick fabrics) Thanks for posting this!
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Well, now what am I gonna do? Even the company doesn't have any info on treated fabric being safe around children. I feel that using it for Deni's quilt would be a bit of a gamble since there's no clear answer on how safe it would be around her newborn. I don't want to take that risk.
I need a back-up plan. Either an easy and safe alternative to keep batiks from bleeding or cottons that look similar to watercolor batiks (I've only got one so far). |
Just wash the fabrics! Warm water, usual amount of detergent. Dry in the dryer.
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I checked with my quilt shop which carries thousands of batiks, I couldn't find a true red. My suggestion would be to use a Moda Marble I think you could get the same effect without the worry of bleeding and it would be little less in cost. The batiks run around $9 and over, Sorry I tried. Donna
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Originally Posted by 3incollege
I checked with my quilt shop which carries thousands of batiks, I couldn't find a true red. My suggestion would be to use a Moda Marble I think you could get the same effect without the worry of bleeding and it would be little less in cost. The batiks run around $9 and over, Sorry I tried. Donna
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Hi there. I was like one of you, had them in my stash, too pretty to use. But I love the feel and the way they work up, like putting a needle in butter. I have washed and have had no bleeding. But then I have not tried the red. Thanks for all your help, will let you know when I use it how it works for me.
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I do not prewash any of my fabrics. I throw in a Shout Color Catcher with each quilt I wash when it is finished. If it's a big quilt I will throw in 2.
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I use batiks often and prewash all of them. Some bleed more than others and require changing the water a couple or three times to remove all of the excess dye.
To avoid adding chemical to the fabric, I think if you soak them (one at a time, or like colors together) in very warm water, swish them around, squeeze out the water, and repeat this process until the water stays clear, you'll have no problem. Once the quilt is made and you wash it, you might (for extra insurance) use a color catcher, especially if you are wasing it with some detergent. Someone on another thread awhile back said that the tried and true method of soaking in a vinegar solution does not work for batiks because the dyes that are used in batiks differ from the dye used in other fabric. |
I love batiks and I always prewash them with Retayne before i use them in a quilt. Reds, dark blues and purples are the worst one to run. After they are treated, they are great. I never had much luck with vinager or salt. I think Retayne is the best.
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Originally Posted by Shadow Dancer
I've never had any of my batik bleed, I've washed it the same as my other fabrics and never had a problem. Although i do wash in cold water, the dryer preshrinks it. I don't treat it any differently than cotton that I buy for quilting.
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