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Dee Dee 11-11-2011 01:02 PM

Bernina Stitch Regulator - Is it worth the price?
 
I have an older Bernina that works just fine for piecing, and a walking foot for stitch in the ditch. But, I stink at free motion quilting. One of the problems is varying length of stitches. The Bernina Stitch Regulator (BSR) sounds like a cool tool. Problem is that in order to get one, I have to buy a machine the BSR device with software will work on. Just went to a Bernina store today and looked at used machines. The lowest I could get a machine and BSR was $2400 --quite a bit over my budget. So, is it worth it to bite the bullet and pay that much? Is it really that good?

igorsews 11-11-2011 01:14 PM

Try one before buying it. But, remember that FMQ will only get better with practice. I use my BSR all the time. Wouldn't be without it.

newbee3 11-11-2011 01:36 PM

I know from experience it does take practice. I do not have a bernina or a BSR I recently took classes on fmg and the teacher told me my stiches were good and I have had several people tell me the same thing. I do keep practicing but now I am not afraid to do it on my quilts. Have you ever tried silk thread #100?? It is very forgiving and silk thread is very stong. I am sure that is what has helped me using it and trying different designs.

ManiacQuilter2 11-11-2011 01:40 PM

I machine quilt and piece on a Bernina 1530 and yes it just takes practice. I just hadn't done any free motion and much stitch length was a little short in length but I was able to stay on the lines. I am going to make some charity quilts for kids and use them to practice on. GOOD LUCK and hang in there. What Bernina wants for a new machine is just TOO RICH for my budget...

Holice 11-11-2011 01:43 PM

some like it and some don't. One can learn good FMQ without it.

Dee Dee 11-11-2011 01:47 PM

I have not heard of silk thread #100. Who makes it and where can I find it. What makes it better than the cotton?


Originally Posted by newbee3 (Post 4667177)
I know from experience it does take practice. I do not have a bernina or a BSR I recently took classes on fmg and the teacher told me my stiches were good and I have had several people tell me the same thing. I do keep practicing but now I am not afraid to do it on my quilts. Have you ever tried silk thread #100?? It is very forgiving and silk thread is very stong. I am sure that is what has helped me using it and trying different designs.


quiltgal 11-11-2011 01:54 PM

Free motion is like any other skill - you have to practice! The key to even stitches with the feed dogs down is to move at a consistent speed! Free motion on standard home sewing machine are good on smaller quilts say baby quilt size (40 x 60) at the most. I have quilted a bunch of quilts even up to two of them 120 x 120 and it is a hassle on any of my regular home machines! I have tried out longarm quilting as well. Even there with a stitch regulator, it takes practice to have even smooth lines on a long arm (where stitch length is good and steady) but practice helps with the smoothness.
Don't beat yourself up about free motion and practice on quilts that are not important to be perfect. I have to relax and white wine helps to get me going when I am doing free motion.
Bottom line: a Bernina with stitch regulator would be really nice to have, but at that price I would have be making enough money to not mind the cost.

wolph33 11-11-2011 01:55 PM

I had one and sold it when we got a long arm.It is like the needle is the pen and the quilt is the paper-to me it was awkward.It did work great-just awkward to me.When you use a long arm you are moving the pen and the paper stays still.I advise sitting a dealer and playing for about an hr. You will at least know if you are going to be comfortable quilting that way.For me anything very large was not fun on a domestic machine.

Jingle 11-11-2011 02:27 PM

I would love a stitch regulator, there isn't one for me. I do FMQ on one of 2 of my Domestic machines. I've done lots and lost of big quilts, a little tough getting started in the center, not too bad.

simplyme 11-11-2011 02:59 PM

The BSR is great. I have it on my 830. But remember itis not a magic too that will take the place of practice. It is just an aid to help you. You will still have to learn with the BSR. I found it easier to learn without first and then got better when I got my new machine. The more you FMQ the better you will get. Don't be so hard on your self.

SmickChick 11-11-2011 03:17 PM

#100 Kimono silk thread
 

Originally Posted by Dee Dee (Post 4667212)
I have not heard of silk thread #100. Who makes it and where can I find it. What makes it better than the cotton?

I bought two of the "try me" specials from Superior Threads. You can't select the colors with the try me, and they sent me a buttery yellow and burgundy :) With the special they were about $11 or $12 and normally are $17 a spool. I absolutely love the silk!!! It's strong and very fine. It is wonderful for piecing, and especially piecing small pieces. I haven' quilted with it, as I mostly thread paint with #30 or #40 wt.
I would love to have an entire selection of silk thread though. And since it is fine, soooo much fits onto a bobbin.

dunster 11-11-2011 04:28 PM

I bought the Bernina 440QE with the BSR and I love it, although I now have a longarm with a stitch regulator. The BSR made learning to FMQ much easier, so to me it was worth the price. However I was buying the new sewing machine anyway, so the BSR itself didn't cost me that much. I don't think any quilting tool (or anything in life, for that matter) is "worth it" if you can't afford it at the time.

CanoePam 11-11-2011 05:17 PM

I actually bought a Bernina 440 QE strictly because of the stitch regulator! I have a Bernina 1031 that I just love, but no matter how I tried (and what classes I took), I just couldn't get the hang of FMQ. Looking back, the BSR was training wheels for me. It gave me confidence, and that is what I needed. I now have a Sweet 16 sitdown quilting machine without any stitch regulator, and I do just fine. However I know that the confidence I got with the BSR was key. Yes, it is perfectly possible to learn FMQ by practice, but it was much easier for me to do it with the BSR.

Pam

grammy of 6 11-11-2011 05:35 PM

I have a Bernina 1530 and have been looking for a walking foot. Can't afford the $180 price tag, so have been looking on EBay. Have a bid in on one, but so have 7 others! I have to be patient, I know, but that is not one f my virtues!! If anyone knows of one at a reasonable price, please let me know.
Thanks

scowlkat 11-11-2011 06:08 PM

I tried the BSR but it couldn't keep up with me! Or at least that is what the dealer said the problem was. I believe if you just keep practicing, you can bypass the need for a stitch regulator. Keep all those left over pieces of batting and make small practice pieces. Don't worry about becoming perfect - no-one is! Play with your machine settings also. If your machine has a slide bar to control the speed, try setting it half way. Eventually you will find the right combination of moving your hands to the speed of the machine. Oh, and every time you are about to work on an actual quilt, grab one of those practice pieces to warm up with. It really makes a difference. Just relax!

1000projects 11-11-2011 06:09 PM

With fmq, you will get better with practice. I have been going about 6 years with no BSR. (also with no Bernina, lol) if you use a #50 wt thread and color match the thead somewhat closely to the fabric, the details of the stitching will be pretty invisible. Also, my fmq was hugely improved when i switched from 30 wt coats and clarks to 50 weight thread. Instanty better!

newbee3 11-11-2011 06:23 PM

superior threads has #100 thread Well as I stated it is very forgiving in showing the thread so you can actually quilt using this thread and learn without ruining your quilt. Once I get better at it I will use other threads I actually used Isacord polyester #40 wt. and it worked out good .

Tartan 11-11-2011 06:31 PM

I bought my Bernina 440 QE this year with the BSR. I got a good deal on it and my Bernina Activa was acting up. While it was in the shop I really thought hard about this second machine. It turned out my Activa only needed a $100 repair so it's now my back up machine. The BSR has improved my machine quilting. I don't get the micro stitches like I used to. As someone mentioned, it gave me the extra confidence to do more machine quilting. Of course more machine quilting meant I got better anyway. It is not fool proof so if you want to practice, practice, practice, you can probably improve without it. If you're in the market for a new machine anyway, go for it.

SuzieQuilts 11-11-2011 09:13 PM

I can't imagine free motion quilting without my BSR. It has become a secruity blanket for me. In fact, I tried to do FMQ without it, once, and I did not even know what to do. Other quilters gave you good advice. Practice on one for at least an hour, and then try it without one again. If you use a Bernina with the BSR, make sure you have it set at BSR 2, then you can control the stop and go by the movement of the fabric, not the button. Not all dealers or owners of the BSR know will tell you that.

Candace 11-11-2011 09:24 PM

I love my BSR but I also FMQ'd fine for many years without it. But, my stitches are perfect with the BSR and it's a great tool. But, some people don't like it. Make sure you test drive it and see what you think.

AnitaSt 11-12-2011 07:46 AM

I have a Bernina 430 and the BSR. I love the BSR but still need a lot of practice on making my FMQ designs look the way I want them to! I do think the BSR is a valuable learning tool and a "security blanket" so you don't have to worry about stitch length, but I don't know whether I would buy a new machine just to get a stitch regulator. On the other hand....Berninas are fantastic machines and you won't regret buying one.

Anita

grammysharon 11-12-2011 07:58 AM

I have a Bernina 1530 that is my travel machine without the BSR and I love FMQing on this machine. My home machine is a Bernina 830 which does have BSR but I don't always use it as I am more comfortable without it!! This is just my opinion!!!

Doreen 11-12-2011 08:03 AM

I have the Bernina 440 with the BSR. I do almost all of my FMQ on my Viking Mega Quilter. I've learned to regulate my stitches. Yes, it takes practice. Don't be in a hurry and be patient. Breathe in and out!

catrancher 11-12-2011 08:04 AM

I love mine, and my sewing machine. But it won't magically cure your FMQ problems. As others have noted, there is no substitute for practice.

Dee Dee 11-12-2011 08:25 AM

Thanks so much for the feedback. I guess I was expecting the BSR to be a fantastic help with free motion quilting, but the practice and skill seem to be the biggest factor. I'll think about the 440 a little longer and maybe the pricing will drop some more. It still amazes me how much the electronic sewing machines cost!

Dkm 11-12-2011 08:59 AM

I learned FMQ on my 153, then purchased a 640 and a BSR. I tried using it and found I like the freedom of have control of the quilt. There are two ways to use the BSR and I found that I didn't like either. My advice is to make sandwiches and practice. If you have the ability to slow the motor that will also help you learn better control.

franc36 11-12-2011 09:16 AM

I bought a BSR when they came out. Was that about 6 years ago? I didn't use it until this past year. Now I wouldn't want to be without it. There was a learning curve even with the BSR. My earliest FMQ was not good. With practice, I am much, much better; but still not as good as I'd like to be. Practice is the key.

IAmCatOwned 11-12-2011 09:34 AM

I love my BSR and if it hadn't come with the machine (Aurora 440 QE), I would have bought it after trying it out at the dealers. I love, love, love it. And yes, the Bernina was dear ($3,000), and buying additional feet is kindof pricey, but the free interest for a year helped a lot. I regret not buying one of these 5 years ago when my vision started to worsen, but I was afraid I wouldn't be able to sew at all any longer.

The BSR has two modes - one where you press the pedal and go as fast or as slow as you want. The other mode is automatic using no pedal. You just move the fabric and it stitches - move the fabric faster and it stitches faster. I get more even stitches using the pedal, but the 2nd mode is actually pretty wonderful. My suggestion is to take a small quilt sandwich with you and try it out at the Bernina dealer. My stitches are SO much better now.

Now, all that said, if I already had a Bernina and was happy with it, I would have probably stuck with it. My problem was my Brother was horrible for quilting and my vision worse. I really, really like having a computerized sewing machine now. My sister, on the other hand, lives more than 45 miles from the nearest dealer and prefers to fix things herself (saves a lot of money), so she sticks with her mechanical Bernina (she sews, doesn't quilt). So, that's another thing to think of. Some of the maintenance on the computerized Bernina can't be done by the owner - it has to go to someone who has been trained.

sewingladydi 11-12-2011 05:15 PM

I got a Bernina 820 with the BSR in July. LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the BSR!. My free motion is really improving. I consider it worth it.
Actually the Bernina 820 was the pnly machine I really considered because it had the only 2 things my other 2 older machines did not have- the BSR and a 12" throat.

My advice would be to take a FMQ, get a couple of books on FMQ and practice a few times a week. If you don't feel that your FMQ isn't improving, then the BSR may be your answer. There are lots of talented quilters who do great stuff without the BSR, but I'm not one of them. I need all the help I can get. Good luck


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