Quiltingboard Forums

Quiltingboard Forums (https://www.quiltingboard.com/)
-   Main (https://www.quiltingboard.com/main-f1/)
-   -   Binding question.....and math (https://www.quiltingboard.com/main-f1/binding-question-math-t39256.html)

ToucanSam 03-11-2010 01:40 PM

I want to just machine bind my quilts. I really don't have a lot of interest in hand stitching the back binding down. (Call me impatient.....)

My question is this: how do I cut/measure the binding strips such that when I sew the folded piece to the front and then bring the fabric to the back, the width is about the same on both sides of the fabric? I need numbers!!!!

Does this make sense? Surely there is a way. I have a 2.5 inch strip on a quilt now, and want to sitd on the front to catch the back but cannot do it because the back is wider than the front and I would end up stitching onto the quilt front.

Sorry, hope this isn't confusing anyone. I'm still a newbie.

:)

twistedstitcher 03-11-2010 01:44 PM

Can you trim the seam allowance a little bit to allow more of the binding to reach the back?

Mamagus 03-11-2010 01:48 PM

I suggest you sew the binding to the BACK and bring it to the front, then stitch it down on the front. That way if the back is a bit off it won't be so noticeable.

Lisa_wanna_b_quilter 03-11-2010 01:51 PM

Look at Eddies tutorial on scalloped borders and binding. He sews on the front, pulls the binding to the back and machine stitches in the ditch on the front to catch the back.

ToucanSam 03-11-2010 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Mamagus
I suggest you sew the binding to the BACK and bring it to the front, then stitch it down on the front. That way if the back is a bit off it won't be so noticeable.

Now that just might work....! Why didn't I think of that?

ToucanSam 03-11-2010 02:04 PM

But is there a number/formula that would work if I didn't attach it to the back instead, as mamagus suggested?

twistedstitcher 03-11-2010 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by ToucanSam
But is there a number/formula that would work if I didn't attach it to the back instead, as mamagus suggested?

If you use a 2/5" strip, and a 1/4" seam you should have plenty to wrap around and stitch down.

lisalovesquilting 03-11-2010 02:35 PM

You could use a decorative stitch and the front and back would both look good.

Karenmay 03-11-2010 02:45 PM

I bind most of my quilts by machine. I machine them onto the back, bring the binding to the front,then all you need to do is a neat row all the way round! It looks nice with a decorative stitch too.

Karen xx

ToucanSam 03-11-2010 02:49 PM

I guess next time I'll sew the binding on to the back of the quilt first.

Thanks!

ToucanSam 03-11-2010 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by twistedstitcher

Originally Posted by ToucanSam
But is there a number/formula that would work if I didn't attach it to the back instead, as mamagus suggested?

If you use a 2/5" strip, and a 1/4" seam you should have plenty to wrap around and stitch down.

As I mentioned, I do have plenty to wrap around but if I machine stitch the part I wrap around, it won't be in the same place as the piece already stitched to the front; ie I can't sitd. I was just thinking there was a way to make the front binding the same WIDTH as the back binding.

:)

redrummy 03-11-2010 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by lisalovesquilting
You could use a decorative stitch and the front and back would both look good.

That is what I did. I wanted to bind in a hurry, hand stiching is too slow, I sewed it to the back, folded it over, used a decorative stich and it looked great on both sides.

yourstrulyquilts 03-11-2010 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by Lisa_wanna_b_quilter
Look at Eddies tutorial on scalloped borders and binding. He sews on the front, pulls the binding to the back and machine stitches in the ditch on the front to catch the back.

IMO, this is the best way to do a machine stitched binding. And to make it so it stays where you want it while sewing it down, I use 1/4" steam a seam ilte and iron it on to tne part of the the binding that goes on the front, then flip the binding to the front and press the binding on to the quilt. And then I stitch.
YTQ

Auntie M 03-11-2010 03:20 PM

not being a math wizard, here are my thoughts..whatever the width of the binding you want x 3 (and a little more)..that way you would attach with 1/3 the width, fold up (another 1/3) and over (the last 1/3), the little more would allow you to "catch" when SID. You would have to be very exacting in stitching to do this :) that's why I start on the back fold to the front and stitch like everyone has suggested.

Prism99 03-11-2010 03:50 PM

I really like this Youtube video on how to do an invisible all-machine binding:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wprg5vzkuGw

How wide you need to cut the binding strips depends on how wide a binding you like and how thick your batting is. A narrow 1/4-inch binding is fairly standard. Assuming an average batting thickness (less than 1/4-inch), then you would probably want to cut your strips 2-1/2".

Here's how it works out. You press the binding in half, so now it is 1-1/4" wide. Then you have to seam the binding to the front or back. That takes up 1/2" (1/4" seams, but two thicknesses). You have 3/4" of binding left to wrap around the edge. 1/4" of that is for the front side, 1/4" of that is for the back side, and the remainder is for the width of the batting.

Oh, and I just saw your problem with not having quite enough binding to wrap around. Just trim the quilt edge until your binding wraps correctly. Next time you might want to cut your binding a bit wider.

MadQuilter 03-11-2010 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by Mamagus
I suggest you sew the binding to the BACK and bring it to the front, then stitch it down on the front. That way if the back is a bit off it won't be so noticeable.

If you use a fancy stitch, it looks like part of the pattern.

As for the math: If you start with a 2.5" strip, then you'll have a 1.25" strip after pressing it in half. if you sew it down on the back with a 3/8" seam allowance, that should give you approximately a 1/2" binding on the front. (For me the theoretical math and the practical application never work as planned.)

I would fold the binding in 3rds and measure where you need to sew it down.

dakotamaid 03-12-2010 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by Mamagus
I suggest you sew the binding to the BACK and bring it to the front, then stitch it down on the front. That way if the back is a bit off it won't be so noticeable.

Yes, I agree, I also match the thread pretty close.

Dancing Needle 03-12-2010 07:28 AM

If I understand correctly you are saying there is a wider strip of binding on the back than on the front when you wrap it around, right? I had that same problem so started cutting my binding strips 2 1/4" rather than 2 1/2". That little bit seems to make it work out for me. I usually stictch my binding to the front by machine then hand stitch the back. I may try the suggestion of machine stitching to the back first and pulling it around the the front and using a decorative stitch to finish it off. I like that idea and it would SO much faster!

ToucanSam 03-12-2010 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by Prism99

Oh, and I just saw your problem with not having quite enough binding to wrap around. Just trim the quilt edge until your binding wraps correctly. Next time you might want to cut your binding a bit wider.

No, I have enough to wrap around to the back. I sewed the binding to the front and have wrapped it around to the back. Now I can, if I wanted to, hand stitch it down but I have no patience for that. What I attempted to do instead was to go back to the front of the quilt (after pinning the binding over to the back side) and sitd down the FRONT. Unfortunately, this leaves a rough edge on the back, unless I stitch on to the quilt top itself rather than on to the binding.

So, what if I used Fabri-Tac on the back to tuck the raw edge under and then sitd down the front? Would that hold?

Alternative: pay someone to blind stitch the back binding or start over but this time sew the binding to the back first.

Judith 03-13-2010 04:53 AM

If you for go http://www.kayewood.com/tips/bindings.pdf she has a complete explanations of how to do this. I think with a 2.5 cut you need about a 3/8 inch seam allowance to get it to wrap around correctly. If you just increase your seam allowance a bit it should work really nicely. (Try it on just a short distance of what you have already sewn to see what works best.). Your binding strips should be cut 6 times the finished width, for a double binding (except for a finished width of 1/4). Hope this helps.

davis2se 03-13-2010 05:04 AM

When I am sewing a binding on by machine I just increase the width of the binding from 2.5 inches to 3.0 inches. It has worked great for me every single time.

catlover 03-13-2010 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by Lisa_wanna_b_quilter
Look at Eddies tutorial on scalloped borders and binding. He sews on the front, pulls the binding to the back and machine stitches in the ditch on the front to catch the back.

This is what I do. I can get a binding on by machine in less than 2 hours total. Hand stitching would take me several hours. Patience is not one of my virtues either. :wink:

catlover 03-13-2010 07:30 PM

[quote=ToucanSam]

Originally Posted by Prism99

Oh, and I just saw your problem with not having quite enough binding to wrap around. Just trim the quilt edge until your binding wraps correctly. Next time you might want to cut your binding a bit wider.

No, I have enough to wrap around to the back. I sewed the binding to the front and have wrapped it around to the back. Now I can, if I wanted to, hand stitch it down but I have no patience for that. What I attempted to do instead was to go back to the front of the quilt (after pinning the binding over to the back side) and sitd down the FRONT. Unfortunately, this leaves a rough edge on the back, unless I stitch on to the quilt top itself rather than on to the binding.

quote]

I stitch from the front in the ditch next to the front binding(pressed toward edge) with a slight zigzag that catches the back part of the binding. I use a top thread that matches the top, and bobbin thread that matches the binding. Careful pinning is a must in order to have the back binding in perfect alignment so that the stitching catches all the binding. If you're not careful with your pinning, you'll miss some of the binding on the back (ask me how I know that :( ).

zkosh 03-13-2010 07:57 PM

Sharon Schamber's video on binding is great. It is one of the free videos on her website and is called Binding the Angel, I think. Check it out. :-)

Marge L. 03-14-2010 05:54 AM

I hate hand sewing, so I started sewing my binding on the back, lapping it over to the front and then using a decorative stitch, I sew it on the front. Sometimes I use a different color of thread so that it has a decorative addition to the quilt. It goes so much faster that way.

mjsylvstr 03-15-2010 06:50 AM

I was just going to suggest that you contact Eddie but I see that someone has already given you that suggestion. His turn out beautiful........

donfel 03-15-2010 07:29 AM

I have also had better results by sewing a decorative stitch on the front. It covers errors and looks good on both sides. I use a decorative stitch that goes with the quilt top i.e. a rodeo T-shirt quilt with multi colored thread & county-ish stitch.

Sparky 03-15-2010 11:32 AM

How big is this quilt? I was going to suggest you mail it me and I hand sew it for you. I don't mind sewing the binding on, it's one thing I can do while watching TV.

Old man- New quilter 03-15-2010 02:17 PM

Have you seen the Magic Strip Binding method? It is the one I use exclusively. Twice around the quilt and you're done. I found it in some quilting mag. that the wife had laying around.

Oklahoma Suzie 03-15-2010 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by Mamagus
I suggest you sew the binding to the BACK and bring it to the front, then stitch it down on the front. That way if the back is a bit off it won't be so noticeable.

great idea.

athenagwis 03-15-2010 04:09 PM

I use 2.25 strips for my binding and it's pretty close to the same width, though 2 may be closer, but you'd have to pull it pretty tight and precise. You figure when you sew it down folded, you sew 1/4 inch, then fold another 1/4 inch in front, then maybe a little less than 1/4 inch in folding over to the back and then 1/4 inch on the back. So that is a total of one inch, so you'd need a folded 2 inch strip. When I fold a 2.25 strip in half, I end up with a 1 and 1/8 strip which gives me a little fudge.

Hope that helps you with the math!

Rachel


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:42 AM.