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tmg 01-18-2011 03:27 AM

I guess it will depend on what it is used for.

quiltbuddy 01-18-2011 05:01 AM


Originally Posted by RST
Sure it can be overdone, but I also see quilts that would be much improved by more quilting, or more thoughtful pairing of quilting design with the piecing patterns.

RST

I agree with you and it also depends on the batting you use. If you used Warm and Natural and quilted it very close it would be too stiff.

supergma 01-18-2011 05:43 AM

LAQ is o.k. I guess, but I am an old traditionalist. I piece and quilt by hand. Machine piecing probably holds up better, but hand piecing is my therapy.

chance 01-18-2011 06:06 AM

I think all those heavily quilted "quilts" are beautiful BUT I think all those qults should be in a category called "Fiber Arts" (including those that are heavily embellished with all kinds of beads, metal objects, doo-dads, painting, etc.)

We lose sight of what a quilts true purpose is. To keep us and our loved ones warm.

quilter68 01-18-2011 06:18 AM

I send my quilts out for "The Minimum Quilting" possible.

I do not like stippling at all.

edited to add: I always take thread to the quilter. Brand new thread maybe not the color we chose for my quilt but she always likes it.

moreland 01-18-2011 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by SuzanneG
I think densely quilted quilts are incredibly beautiful to look at and make great wall hangings. But on bed, lap or baby quilts, I like much less quilting so it stays nice and comfy rather than stiff. Both are beautiful and have their place but for my quilts (which are almost all utility quilts) I quilt moderatley so it looks nice, but stays soft. In the end, we all do what makes us happy with our quilts and that's as it should be. :D

I agree. I did not like the quilt on the cover of one of the recent quilt catalogs (Keepsakes?) but when I saw the quilt displayed inside with much less quilting, I thought it was beautiful. I think right now LAQ are still in the "let's see what can be done" mode. I sincerely doubt that it will become the "norm" of LAQ --too time consuming, too expensive, etc. etc. Just my thoughts.

Late Bloomer 01-18-2011 06:28 AM

I agree with the opinions of too much quilting. It gets my goat to see such beautifully pieced quilts in the magazines just ruined with every inch covered with quilting! This is overkill totally and I see no beauty in it. The quilts look so stiff and unpleasant to the touch that I just wonder at what the quilter was thinking. I have even emailed the editors but that is not going to change anything. Like many good things, they just get out of hand and ruin an otherwise lovely quilt.

Catherine Marie 01-18-2011 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by plainpat
Lots of quilting is ok,as long as I don't own it.Can't use it on a bed & after pics are taken, what do they do with them? Maybe they're meant for banks etc to hang?

Saw one last yr that I'd dare anyone to tell me what color fabric was used.You couldn't even tell the base color...before it was threaded to death.Even every day quilting by a LA quilter changes the feel of a quilt.No softness, no comfy curl up left.JMO

Here, Here.

bamamama 01-18-2011 06:35 AM

I'd say it just depends on the quilt. Sometimes less is more.

katlady 01-18-2011 06:45 AM

yes you can over quilt a quilt. I personally do not like so much quilting it makes them stiff. okay for wall hangings & place mats or table runners but not quilts I would like them to be somewhat soft. okay if it is a show piece.

Linda Loo 01-18-2011 06:46 AM

I don't care for stiff quilts, and I've made a few! Don't take them out and use them 'cause they're not comfy. Pretty though!! I like the free flowing curves and loops of FMQ done simply and just close enough to assure that batting doesn't shift.

golo8 01-18-2011 07:26 AM

For a quilt that is going to get used a lot I ask for light quilting to keep the quilt softer, but for a display quilt I don't mind heavy quilting.... it is so beautiful to look at...

Sorrelpen 01-18-2011 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by mom-6
My personal preference is for minimum quilting so it is nice and fluffy, more like a comforter. It also seems to be warmer as well as softer that way.

My sentements exactly. I have found, if youquilt heavily it takes away from the insulating components of the batting. It is the same principle of insulating your house. When you compact the insulation fabric you lose your insulating factor you start with, in other words you are defeating the purpose of you quilt being warm!

Sadiemae 01-18-2011 08:01 AM

Do you really think anyone sleeps with some of those heavily quilted quilts??? I think most are just to look at, to oooooo and ahhhhhh over. Kind of like a status symbol.

pittsburgpam 01-18-2011 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by kwhite
yes too much. I think there should be diffrent categories in quilt shows for "show quilts" and "quilts to be used by real people" There really is no reson for us normal people to even think about entering anything in a quilt show anymore.

I kind of agree with this. I would love to do more shows but I'm new to long arming and very bad at it. I want to finish a bunch of tops that I have but I keep thinking that if I quilt it, I wouldn't show it. I can't do all that intricate work and that's what I see as winning in ANYTHING. How can I compete even with a very well pieced quilt if I can't quilt it to death?

quiltbuddy 01-18-2011 08:27 AM

I think I am the odd woman out here. I love generous quilting when done in good taste with reference to the piecework. These quilts will wear forever. I feel a lot of quilts today are all about the fabric and colors. I think that is just 50% of the formula. I live in a cold climate and most quilts are not that warm any ways. A wool batting would not be stiff and is still warm and cuddly with closer quilting.

Marysewfun 01-18-2011 08:32 AM

Talking about thread useage - besides learning quilting, I am also getting into machine embroidery - Over the weekend I saw a site selling digitized patterns of quilting blocks. These were not just a simple open pattern look (many of those are pretty for "a block" - but the whole of each block was stitched as we would use fabric - - the first thing that came to mind was - (A) can you imagine how expensive in thread that would be to make? (scraps being much cheaper) - and (B) the stiffness it would cause? I am sure somebody out there will love them and I think probably would have to be a wall hanging. But to me, it didn't seem too practical.
Marysewfun

mim 01-18-2011 08:41 AM

I too am in favor of soft, snuggly quilts. I hand quilt.

BUT -- I just had a baby quilt done by Charismah and she did what I liked -- soft and snuggly with just enough machine quilting to be creative as well as tighten up the edges so if the parents want they can use it as a wall hanging until he grows enough to drag it aroung. I always put a sleeve on my quilts that I give just in case they want to hang it.

So I have changed my opion -- hard to do -- but I admit that both sides have a purpose.

Overdoing isn't good no mater what the siruation is

Mim

IBQUILTIN 01-18-2011 08:47 AM

Some of the quilting I have seen is just stunning and some leaves me questioning the need to waste that much thread. I guess that beauty will always be in the eyes of the beholder

IBQUILTIN 01-18-2011 08:49 AM

Some of the quilting I have seen is just stunning and some leaves me questioning the need to waste that much thread. I guess that beauty will always be in the eyes of the beholder

Dianne1 01-18-2011 09:01 AM

Like anything it's in the eye of the beholder. Personally I don't like a overdue of anything.

CoriAmD 01-18-2011 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by mom-6
My personal preference is for minimum quilting so it is nice and fluffy, more like a comforter. It also seems to be warmer as well as softer that way.

I agree :)

franie 01-18-2011 09:51 AM

My thoughts exactly=-=-too much sometimes and that's all you see is the quilting and the quilt is lost in thread. To me it looses what a quilt is supposed to be unless it is show piece anyway.

franie 01-18-2011 09:58 AM

I like you even more kwhite!

The last show I had something in that I was able to attend the professional long armer that did the quilts that took the highest honors. It's ok but not fair really. I suggested to the show they have a separate categories--they do for hand quilting.


Originally Posted by kwhite
I don't have that much knowledge, I live too far from the shows, and I am not politically correct enough. I tell you exactly how I feel and many times people don't like that.


BeveB 01-18-2011 10:05 AM

I feel the excessive quilting takes the comfort out of it. I like the quilting to enhance, not hide the top. The competition quilts are overdone IMO.

quiltbuddy 01-18-2011 10:11 AM

Many of the older quilts were quilted closely together because I don't think they had batting that would be able to stay together like we do today. I also know what you mean about too much thread. These should be art quilts.

MemoryKeeper 01-18-2011 11:17 AM

Personally, I don't like close machine quilting. As far as that goes, I'm not too keen of machine quilting anywhoo. When I fell into "modern" quilting, I was astonished that quilts were pieced on machines. Geesh, I'm old! "Everyone to their own taste" said the old lady as she kissed the cow. :lol:

jgriinke 01-18-2011 11:23 AM

The quilts in a Longarm competition are being judged on the QUILTING. It's a quilting competition, not a quilt competition. The ones that are shown are just for show. Do you think that someone who just won thousands of dollars for her quilt would put in on a bed? I don't think so.
Just remember which show you are at and enjoy the beauty of these items.
They are showing what can be done. It doesn't mean that you have to do it.
Just think where we would be in the quilting world if no one tried machine quilting in the first place. Hand quilting is not for me and never will be. That doesn't mean that I can't enjoy the beauty of it.
We all have likes and dislikes. It doesn't make one thing or the other wrong, just not what we care for.
Enjoy the differences we all have, and create!

nature1953 01-18-2011 12:58 PM

love the dogs!!!

jitkaau 01-18-2011 04:20 PM

Depends what it is used for as to how much thread, I think. if it is a wall piece it probably stands up better if it is stiffer and more sturdy.

jeanneb52 01-18-2011 04:21 PM

Too much is too much. I like intricate quilting but not to the point that it overcomes the top itself. If you want to do that do a whole cloth quilt.

MyraYU 01-18-2011 04:27 PM

I agree with Qbee. It really depends on what the quilt will be used for. If you are entering it in a show to be judged, they seem to like more quilting, even if it makes it stiff. However, if it will be used as a comfy quilt on a bed or a lap quilt, etc., then less quilting is better, as it makes it soft and warm, but still hold the batt from shifting. I do agree with you that a LOT of close quilting makes the quilt stiff and I'm not a fan of that.

smitty 01-18-2011 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by jaciqltznok

Originally Posted by stewyscrewy
Yes it is quilted to death but I want to impress the Judges and the others that I can be taken as a serious longarmer. .

I just have to ask, is the quilt being judged on the quilting or on the QUILT?

one of the quandaries of modern quilting world. new categories need to be created to give credit to both the seamtress & the LA quilter. equally, I think, if the quilting plays such a significant part to the overall effect. I think so many of them are works of art & not "quilts". there are some beautiful creations out there !

Olivia's Grammy 01-18-2011 04:32 PM

I do my own quilting. For myself I like a minium of quilting. But I am so glad that not everyone like the same things I do. I am glad that each of us can be unique in what we do and like. I do not plan to enter my quilts in a judging show bc I like to be me and not quilt to please a judge.

PieceandLuv 01-18-2011 04:54 PM

ditto I agree...........

katiebear1 01-18-2011 05:01 PM

Any quilt I make for the bedroom I quilt it heavily ( just meander or spirals or such. I do this because our dogs sleep on the bed and I have found if it is heavily quilted they don't seem to tear them up

madamekelly 01-18-2011 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by gale
I like to go no less than 2" apart and maybe even 3. I like them soft and bendy.

I think the 'soft and bendy' result, is why I prefer to tie my quilts. I have been experimenting with machine quilting, and I am just not happy with my results. I shake too much.

gaigai 01-18-2011 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by jaciqltznok
.not to mention that all the quilting compromises the fabrics longevity. Used to be that we all understood that if you use poly or rayon thread on cotton fabric it WILL cut through the cotton in time..th

I guess it's all a matter of taste. Check out the book "Quilting makes the Quilt". It's a good thing we don't all like the same thing.

BTW, I've had several textile experts tell me, and read in different sources, that the above statement is NOT true, that it is a self-perpetuating Old Wives Tale along the lines of "You can't go swimming while having your period" and "Cats will suffocate a newborn".

Rosyhf 01-18-2011 05:40 PM

I know I have said this before. After I work for weeks on a quilt. I don't expect the LAQ to get the credit on my work. I am also a LAQ and I just do freehand and simple. I like for my quilting to disappear into the quilt and just give it the extra finish.

The object is the quilt and the quilting should only enhance the main subject. All you hard work is lost with all that heavy quilting.

New knee 01-18-2011 06:28 PM

I think most longarm quilting is too much. I guess if I could do that freemotion I would want to just keep on quilting. But too much does make the quilt stiff, even though the quilting is beautifully done. But sometimes I think the machine quilting takes away from the patchwork.


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