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AngelinaMaria 05-04-2014 07:23 AM

Can you show me what quilts look like that have fabric prewashed and not prewashed?
 
I have been sewing away making quilt tops for 3 years now and the only completely finished quilts I have are ones that I did prewash the fabric and gave as gifts. Those didn't crinkle much but they were made of darker fabrics and the look is probably different on lighter fabrics.

All my other quilt tops which I am slowly starting to get quilted have not been prewashed (the fabric before piecing). I am wondering what they will look like after they are washed?? I read a post a few days ago and she was disappointed at how wrinkled the quilt ended up and she mentioned something about not prewashing the batting (I couldn't tell from her post if she had prewashed the fabric).

If you use a LAQ and they use batting off the roll, then you will never get prewashed batting. Would you purchase your own batting and prewash it before sending to the LAQ? I can't undo the quilt tops I already have finished but would like to understand the differences in looks before I proceed making tops without prewashing. Thanks for any help you can give me.

dunster 05-04-2014 07:44 AM

Cotton batting shrinks when washed, so any quilt made with it will get a puffy look, whether the top fabric has been prewashed or not. Poly batting does not shrink.

ckcowl 05-04-2014 07:46 AM

I've been making quilts for many, many years- I have never pre-washed a batting- to me that seems like a lot of work when it's easy enough to just buy a batting that does not shrink more than I would want. as for- pre-washed vs. not.... many things determine how much a quilt will shrink when it is laundered- the fabrics, that batting, the density of the quilting, how it is laundered all play a role. I've made many quilts that had both pre-washed and unwashed fabrics in them- I've never had one come out (horribly wrinkled). even quilts that contain flannels and regular cottons together have come out just fine. if you make an all cotton quilt- use an heirloom type cotton batting (that says to quilt it every 2") and you launder it in warm water & tumble dry it- it will (crinkle- look like an old, antique quilt) people who make that style of quilt & use that type of batting generally do it because that is the look they want. batting packages tell you how much shrinkage you can expect- also the density of quilting the batting requires. if you make your quilt, have it quilted to the minimum recommended density- launder it gently on cool & tumble dry it on low heat it won't shrink much at all. generally I pre-wash if I have a bleeder- other than that I don't always worry about it (I pre-wash if a fabric smells funky, feels funky or has saturated color that wants to bleed) I mix batiks with flannels, and lots of other combinations- and I choose the batting with the properties I want. my favorite is Wool batting & it does not shrink as much as cotton. browse the pictures category here- you will find lots of quilts that have both washed & not- (my backyard gathering quilt is wool applique on black flannel- nothing was pre-washed- beyond the wools being felted; the flannel background was not pre-washed- in the pictures it has been laundered a couple times-- my Connecticut quilts are all regular cottons- nothing pre-washed except the reds used in the appliques the quilts have been laundered in the pictures- after completion.

Rose Marie 05-04-2014 07:54 AM

Prewash for dyes that might run.
A quilted quilt is going to pull up a bit after washing.
Charms and other precuts I do not wash before quilting.
So far have not had any problems after washing a quilt when finished.
I put my batting in the dryer for a few minutes to get the fold lines out but do not wash it.
I don't know if thread shrinks or not. I use Coats and Clarks and Connecting Threads mostly.
I don't mind the slight shrinkage that occurs after washing. Looks fine to me.
I have combined pre cuts (not washed) and yardage that is prewashed. Cant see any difference after quilt is washed. I use 80/20 batting and I think that is what shrinks a little.

Prism99 05-04-2014 09:52 AM

Whether the fabric is prewashed or not actually has very little effect on the finished quilt. What determines the "crinkled" look is the batting. If you do not want any crinkling, then use polyester batting which does not shrink. Once quilted, the batting will control how much the fabric can shrink. A moderately quilted quilt with poly batting will not allow the fabric to shrink more than the batting shrinks, so with poly batting you get virtually no fabric shrinkage.

Decades ago I used prewashed fabric and cotton batting for my first quilt. I was astonished at how much it crinkled! Took it to a quilt shop to ask if that was normal and found out it is. Over the years, I realized that almost all of the vintage quilts I looked at had that crinkling -- it just looked softer. This is because fabric colors fade, soften and blend over the years, and cotton batting gets softer with each washing. By the time you look at a vintage quilt, everything looks (and is!) very soft and inviting.

Quilts hung at quilt shows have often never been washed (especially the award winning quilts!). Beginning quilters don't realize that a quilt will look different before and after washing -- especially if cotton batting or other shrinkable batting (wool batting, for example, typically shrinks just like cotton) is used.

Also, many of us have become accustomed to the look of commercial comforters -- the smooth, highly puffy look.

In short, if you really do not want crinkling, then either (1) use polyester batting, or (2) use a wool or cotton batting that is capable of being pre-washed and pre-shrunk. You need to check the specifics of the batting to determine whether it is safe to preshrink it or not. Older style battings that were not needle punched typically fall apart in water. Needlepunched cotton battings and the good brands of wool batting (Hobbs and Quilter's Dream) can all be preshrunk as long as you are careful not to allow agitation during the wash cycle.

Edit: I want to caution that tied quilts will not respond the same way to fabric that is not prewashed. With moderate quilting, the three layers "become one" and the batting takes control of shrinkage. Tied quilts do not really make the three layers into one, so batting cannot control the shrinkage. In that case, the individual fabrics will all shrink at their own rates, just as if they were washed on their own.

TeresaA 05-04-2014 10:02 AM

One other thing, if you don't want krinkled quilts.

If you use high quality polyester batting (I like Hobbs Polydown) the poly will last a long time even through constant washing. Most any poly batting will beard (fibers from the batting migrate through the fabric), but I have dark quilts with a bit of bearding and it's not obvious unless you look for it. And it's not bad at all.

The only person who looks microscopically at a quilt is the quilt's maker and the quilt's judge. The rest of us seem them as beautiful...

AngelinaMaria 05-04-2014 12:59 PM

Prism99--Thank you so much for your comprehensive and very informative post. That is really helpful. The last batch of quilts I had quilted were done with 100% cotton so I know to expect a crinkled look when I wash them. The other 3 that have been quilted, I think may have used an 80/20 blend but I'm not positive. It sounds like I want to specifically request a poly batting next time so I can compare the looks. Thanks again.

NikkiLu 05-04-2014 03:58 PM

Having just come back from the big Paducah Quilt Show, where I saw probably hundreds of "new" quilts and my guess is that NONE of them were washed after they were quilted. They were all NOT WRINKLED or whatever you want to call it. They were all very flat and smooth. However, the overall winning quilt was hand quilted. You can google to see a picture of it - I don't think I can put a picture of it on here.

Judi in Ohio 05-05-2014 04:07 AM

I never pre wash anything - batiks included. I use lots of color catchers. I don't get many runs, but if I do I use Oxy and more color catchers. I've never had a problem. That being said, I do not pre wash because I love the crinkles I get from the slight shrinkage. Ages it just right.

Jingle 05-06-2014 03:40 AM

I don't know if they look different or not. I just prewash all fabrics. I want to make sure the fabric will be suitable for using in quilts.

Geri B 05-06-2014 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by Jingle (Post 6705800)
I don't know if they look different or not. I just prewash all fabrics. I want to make sure the fabric will be suitable for using in quilts.

So, then, I presume, one does prewash all fabric used in construction clothing too? I sewed clothing for several yrs and did not prewash nor after wash what I sewed.......until after it was worn, then washed or dry cleaned, whatever method necessary to clean it......
I do not prewash fabric...waste of water,electricity,soap, equipment, nor do I post wash....just use it until it " really" needs a washing...then on gentle, cold water with Orvus(sp), dry gentle then outside for fresh air and final dry......so they only get washed in warm weather here in Midwest! During winter months I will air fluff in dryer monthly......no one in this house sleeps in a bed that does not have two sheets, all take daily showers, wear clean clothes so the quilts on the beds are not " dirty"......... There are no babies here, we do not use lap quilts. Quilted things I gave gifted have never come back shredded at seams or color-blend. But we all do what we feel works for us

thread mess 05-06-2014 05:47 AM

I learned many years ago to boil my fabrics with a little vinegar to preshrink and also set the colors in my fabrics. Now, I know this method was taught to me 20 years ago by an older woman, and I also know this takes a lot of time - but I've had very little shrinkage issues and my colors have never run. I must also say that I dry them in high heat and iron all of my fabics before even starting. (I heard all of you groan at that!) Since I do a lot of donation quilts for Project Linus, removing all the starch and other 'stuff' is necessary. Vintage quilts are all 'crinkled', it's just the nature of the art. :D

Prism99 05-06-2014 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by thread mess (Post 6706016)
I learned many years ago to boil my fabrics with a little vinegar to preshrink and also set the colors in my fabrics.

Vinegar is useful for setting dyes made from organic products, which is how many colors were obtained in fabric decades ago. Nowadays all commercially produced fabric (and even many home-dyed fabrics) use chemical dyes to obtain different colors, and chemical dyes are not affected by vinegar. The vinegar in the steps you go through will not do the fabric any harm, but it also is likely not doing it any good.

bearisgray 05-06-2014 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by Geri B (Post 6705998)
So, then, I presume, one does prewash all fabric used in construction clothing too? I sewed clothing for several yrs and did not prewash nor after wash what I sewed.......until after it was worn, then washed or dry cleaned, whatever method necessary to clean it......
I do not prewash fabric...waste of water,electricity,soap, equipment, nor do I post wash....just use it until it " really" needs a washing...then on gentle, cold water with Orvus(sp), dry gentle then outside for fresh air and final dry......so they only get washed in warm weather here in Midwest! During winter months I will air fluff in dryer monthly......no one in this house sleeps in a bed that does not have two sheets, all take daily showers, wear clean clothes so the quilts on the beds are not " dirty"......... There are no babies here, we do not use lap quilts. Quilted things I gave gifted have never come back shredded at seams or color-blend. But we all do what we feel works for us

We also use two sheets on our beds -

However, some of my family members have been known to fall asleep on the couch after working in the garden or are hot and sweaty or after spending hours outside rearranging snow, cats and/or dogs have been known to climb on the couch, babies have been known to leak, ill people have been known to throw up - for us, washing has worked out well.

I make them so they can withstand ordinary washing and drying on an "as needed" basis - which is probably more often than once every few years.

I wash before cutting for one main reason:

I want to know that I (or whoever) can just wash and dry the item with reasonable care. I feel that there should be NO NEED WHATSOEVER to need color catchers, or any other further treatment for the item to turn out well when washed with mild detergent in cool or warm water and dried to barely dry on moderate heat.

The things I do fear are: bleach, burns, and tears.

madamekelly 05-06-2014 04:34 PM

I love the look I get from making quilts that are not made from prewashed fabric, and have polyester batting, because they get a cuddly puffy look after washing. Having said that, I have recently discovered that sizing on fabric eats my hands, so I will now prewashed the fabric, but not the 80/20 batting, so I might still get some puffiness when I wash them. I wash every quilt before I gift it, so I can check for boo-boos. I will post after I wash the one currently being tied, to let you know how that works. I am tying it every three inches, and doing some machinine quilting on it for stability.

Craftnut 05-06-2014 05:37 PM

Thread mess, I am with you. I wash everything, dryer setting normal for clothes, and iron before I cut. I don't wash before giving a gift quilt, so the recipient can enjoy the flat, pressed look until it needs washing. Then they can see it progress themselves. I have two quilts I use on my bed that have never been washed and might never get washed. They don't get dirty, all they do is sit on the bed all day. I vacuum the quilts to remove dust and dander. I do have a couple of lap quilts that I washed, and they both have a lovely crinkled look that isn't too much. The batting and thread did shrink a bit, but I like that look. I use all cotton batting and thread.

sewbizgirl 05-06-2014 09:29 PM

Well I see no one had any photos to share with you. Too bad. I wanted to see the before and after quilts, too....


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