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Charge? Fold n'Stitch
What are you ladies charging for your Fold n' Stitch wreath?
I have a request to make 4 of them. Thanks! |
Think about how much money you put into them for material cost, I know they are not the cheapest item to make. Think about the time you spend, I know they are easy but tedious.
When you think about it you may want to calculate something extra so it's worth it, now are the people ordering are willing what you ask for? Usually here we think, well if they just pay me for the materials I used I'm fine. People who don't do crafts like us don't see how much is in it and usually don't appreciate it to the fullest. What you make is custom made, not a product you find a dime and a dozen like in a store chain, neither is it made cheaply too. I have seen them sold at a Bazaar for $50 D. Enjoy all of your creations and be proud of it. |
It's interesting you have seen them for $50. That's what a friend has offered. I haven't turned them down, but I haven't accepted.
I haven't been to any craft sales this year so I'm clueless. Thanks! |
You're welcome, even for this price you won't get out what time you have put in. When you take orders, ask for a down payment at least for the material cost like 25. Should they not wanting to do it, don't start the project. You could end up with them not wanting it anymore for whatever reason, but then you're out of money.
Down payment of half the cost, before you start. Believe me I have been burnt this twice. |
Good advice from lovingmama. It very hard to get people to pay you for your time when you do labor intensive work. My husband does some custom car/truck parts for specific models. He made a really nice gauge pod for the truck. Some people wanted him to make one for them but choked on the $600 price. At that price he only made about $6.00/hr because they were hugely labor intensive. People are used to the "Walmart price" on things and most people can't tell the difference in quality between cheap products and custom made.
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Look on Etsy. There might be some there to get a idea for price. Search Quilted Candle wreath.
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Originally Posted by RobertaK1
(Post 7725719)
Look on Etsy. There might be some there to get a idea for price. Search Quilted Candle wreath.
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Rule of thumb and basic labor is 4 x cost of supplies. The fee can go up or down as you see fit but 4x is the base fee.
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I've run into the Walmart syndrome all the time. People are always asking me if I can make one of my quilted jackets for them. When I tell them that they are $100 plus tax, the change their minds. So be upfront with what you need to charge and don't be shy about it.
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Etsy is a great place to check!!
Thanks ladies! |
Also, you might want to make sure that the pattern you are using doesn't have a statement on it that it is for personal use only.
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Unless you are buying materials at "wholesale" ....it is a challenge to cover costs when purchased at retail. Take the 50 each
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You sure are right. So many people want what you do for nothing.
Originally Posted by cashs_mom
(Post 7725652)
Good advice from lovingmama. It very hard to get people to pay you for your time when you do labor intensive work. My husband does some custom car/truck parts for specific models. He made a really nice gauge pod for the truck. Some people wanted him to make one for them but choked on the $600 price. At that price he only made about $6.00/hr because they were hugely labor intensive. People are used to the "Walmart price" on things and most people can't tell the difference in quality between cheap products and custom made.
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You are right about people not knowing what goes into a project. I just had a lady offer me a sack of used jeans (for jeans quilts) in exchange for making her a t-shirt quilt. Not Happening!
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I have made more than a dozen wreaths, but only sold one. It was for a good friend and I wasn't going to charge anything, but he insisted, knowing the cost of materials, and that it takes a day to make. He paid me $40.
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think about how much you would work at any job for--and then make sure that you get at least that much plus your materials cost out of the project. I made the mistake of WAY underestimating the amount of time that it would take to "deconstruct" shirts and pants for 3 memory quilts project I'm trying to wrap up--and consequently have cheated myself. :( Forgot the "rule" to estimate your time--then pad it with some hours for the problems you run into.
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I don't sell my quilts, all I make. I don't want the hassle so I give them away or donate. I don't have to worry about copyrights either, I make up most patterns.
I just like to make quilts and can't store them all. |
just saw on ETSY $27-48. that was just the first page, so i'd look further. also, the fabrics looked a few yrs old, and anything new will cost you your first grandchild to do.
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In Central Illinois they were gong for $30.00. No offense to the quilter but they were not most beautiful. Stitched well, but lacking in style.
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I was looking for that pattern and did not know where to look. The local quilt shop had one for Valentine's Day but did not answer my email request asking for pattern or kit.
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My grandmother and her church lady group made folding wreaths (they were made for the kitchen table) from ready made potholders. I don't remember much but they looked just like the ones being made now but of course lacking the great fabrics.
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I have been offered $40 also for them. I have reworked the pattern to a smaller size and like it so much better. They still take a day to make. Author of the pattern did not write directions in a smaller size. I did my own trial and error. I like the size much better. They turn out to be 14 inches in diameter. Much cuter and fit the center of a table better. For them I have been offered $30.
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Originally Posted by Mommalonglegs
(Post 7726479)
I have been offered $40 also for them. They still take a day to make.
I just can't imagine how people can offer $30 for a day's worth of labor?! Assuming that's "only" 8 hours, it works out to be $3.75/hour -- assuming they bought all the materials & paid for your electric bill, and wear & tear on your machine & durable goods. I can't imagine doing that in this area. Minimum wage even for unskilled jobs like being a Wal-Mart greeter pays $10.50/hour. I can't for the life of figure out why people think it's okay to offer such insulting prices to quilters... well, okay, I can, but it still disturbs me. Hopefully some day, we as a society will cease to think it's acceptable to pay some child laborer in Bangladesh $1/day to sew our clothing & home goods in (typically) substandard conditions with the rationale that "at least they have a job now". Then, people will start to see the true cost to produce the things they so love. The fabric alone probably cost at least $10. Low-end for consumables and wear & tear and utilities would be $1. So that leaves you $19 for 8 hours of work (excluding your design time, time spent shopping for materials & any time spent with the buyer), or $2/hour. Sometimes I just want to ask people: "would you work for $2/hour?" |
I donated 2 for a charity auction they went for $50 each. It takes me about 4 hours to make one. I use deco-bond and heat-n-bond instead of the foam so its a little cheaper. I try to buy as much of the materials as possible with 50% off coupons at JoAnns.
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I sell a lot of fabric items so I only purchase fabric either wholesale or at a very good sale. I can make 2 'regular' size wreaths from 2 half yards of fabric and a half yard of a heavy interfacing. So, my total materials cost is around $6 - $7. I currently sell them for $18 - $24 and I sell a lot of them. The 2 pricing methods for selling items are either take your total materials cost x's 3 or if you make several at a time, take your total materials cost for several and add an hourly charge and divide by however many you made. Either of these final figures needs to be adjusted according to how things sell in your area. Also, if you are making them for a friend you may only want to recoup your material costs. The hexies use less fabric but take more time so I charge the same amount. You may also want to adjust for the amount of time you put into it. I make 2 at a time and it takes me less than 2 hours to do it, but, I have made a lot of them and have a routine.
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Originally Posted by Pennyhal
(Post 7725737)
I've run into the Walmart syndrome all the time. People are always asking me if I can make one of my quilted jackets for them. When I tell them that they are $100 plus tax, the change their minds. So be upfront with what you need to charge and don't be shy about it.
as someone else mentioned, I go with the 3-4 x cost price too. |
Can I use the double sided fusible Bosal for the fold n' stitch wreath? I know the pattern says single sided, but has anyone used the double sided? Thanks in advance!
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If you use the double sided wouldn't they be hard to turn inside out?
Originally Posted by grammanene
(Post 7764423)
Can I use the double sided fusible Bosal for the fold n' stitch wreath? I know the pattern says single sided, but has anyone used the double sided? Thanks in advance!
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Yes they would, but I'm thinking only if I fuse the one side as pattern says to, the once it's sewn together and turned inside out, THEN, press and it would fuse then. Any insight?
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