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gingerd 12-24-2016 07:31 AM

Charge? Fold n'Stitch
 
What are you ladies charging for your Fold n' Stitch wreath?

I have a request to make 4 of them.

Thanks!

lovingmama 12-24-2016 07:58 AM

Think about how much money you put into them for material cost, I know they are not the cheapest item to make. Think about the time you spend, I know they are easy but tedious.

When you think about it you may want to calculate something extra so it's worth it, now are the people ordering are willing what you ask for?

Usually here we think, well if they just pay me for the materials I used I'm fine. People who don't do crafts like us don't see how much is in it and usually don't appreciate it to the fullest.

What you make is custom made, not a product you find a dime and a dozen like in a store chain, neither is it made cheaply too.

I have seen them sold at a Bazaar for $50 D.

Enjoy all of your creations and be proud of it.

gingerd 12-24-2016 08:02 AM

It's interesting you have seen them for $50. That's what a friend has offered. I haven't turned them down, but I haven't accepted.

I haven't been to any craft sales this year so I'm clueless.

Thanks!

lovingmama 12-24-2016 08:10 AM

You're welcome, even for this price you won't get out what time you have put in. When you take orders, ask for a down payment at least for the material cost like 25. Should they not wanting to do it, don't start the project. You could end up with them not wanting it anymore for whatever reason, but then you're out of money.

Down payment of half the cost, before you start. Believe me I have been burnt this twice.

cashs_mom 12-24-2016 08:31 AM

Good advice from lovingmama. It very hard to get people to pay you for your time when you do labor intensive work. My husband does some custom car/truck parts for specific models. He made a really nice gauge pod for the truck. Some people wanted him to make one for them but choked on the $600 price. At that price he only made about $6.00/hr because they were hugely labor intensive. People are used to the "Walmart price" on things and most people can't tell the difference in quality between cheap products and custom made.

RobertaK1 12-24-2016 10:24 AM

Look on Etsy. There might be some there to get a idea for price. Search Quilted Candle wreath.

PaperPrincess 12-24-2016 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by RobertaK1 (Post 7725719)
Look on Etsy. There might be some there to get a idea for price. Search Quilted Candle wreath.

Great suggestion. make sure you add in the postage to the price listed.

Onebyone 12-24-2016 10:34 AM

Rule of thumb and basic labor is 4 x cost of supplies. The fee can go up or down as you see fit but 4x is the base fee.

Pennyhal 12-24-2016 10:54 AM

I've run into the Walmart syndrome all the time. People are always asking me if I can make one of my quilted jackets for them. When I tell them that they are $100 plus tax, the change their minds. So be upfront with what you need to charge and don't be shy about it.

gingerd 12-24-2016 03:21 PM

Etsy is a great place to check!!

Thanks ladies!

thimblebug6000 12-24-2016 04:58 PM

Also, you might want to make sure that the pattern you are using doesn't have a statement on it that it is for personal use only.

Sandygirl 12-25-2016 03:14 AM

Unless you are buying materials at "wholesale" ....it is a challenge to cover costs when purchased at retail. Take the 50 each

sandy

nabobw 12-25-2016 06:43 AM

You sure are right. So many people want what you do for nothing.

Originally Posted by cashs_mom (Post 7725652)
Good advice from lovingmama. It very hard to get people to pay you for your time when you do labor intensive work. My husband does some custom car/truck parts for specific models. He made a really nice gauge pod for the truck. Some people wanted him to make one for them but choked on the $600 price. At that price he only made about $6.00/hr because they were hugely labor intensive. People are used to the "Walmart price" on things and most people can't tell the difference in quality between cheap products and custom made.


Nammie to 7 12-25-2016 07:24 AM

You are right about people not knowing what goes into a project. I just had a lady offer me a sack of used jeans (for jeans quilts) in exchange for making her a t-shirt quilt. Not Happening!

Grandma Mary 12-25-2016 08:06 AM

I have made more than a dozen wreaths, but only sold one. It was for a good friend and I wasn't going to charge anything, but he insisted, knowing the cost of materials, and that it takes a day to make. He paid me $40.

quiltingshorttimer 12-25-2016 12:48 PM

think about how much you would work at any job for--and then make sure that you get at least that much plus your materials cost out of the project. I made the mistake of WAY underestimating the amount of time that it would take to "deconstruct" shirts and pants for 3 memory quilts project I'm trying to wrap up--and consequently have cheated myself. :( Forgot the "rule" to estimate your time--then pad it with some hours for the problems you run into.

Jingle 12-25-2016 12:56 PM

I don't sell my quilts, all I make. I don't want the hassle so I give them away or donate. I don't have to worry about copyrights either, I make up most patterns.
I just like to make quilts and can't store them all.

lynnie 12-25-2016 05:51 PM

just saw on ETSY $27-48. that was just the first page, so i'd look further. also, the fabrics looked a few yrs old, and anything new will cost you your first grandchild to do.

pbraun 12-26-2016 06:45 AM

In Central Illinois they were gong for $30.00. No offense to the quilter but they were not most beautiful. Stitched well, but lacking in style.

pbraun 12-26-2016 06:48 AM

I was looking for that pattern and did not know where to look. The local quilt shop had one for Valentine's Day but did not answer my email request asking for pattern or kit.

Onebyone 12-26-2016 07:48 AM

My grandmother and her church lady group made folding wreaths (they were made for the kitchen table) from ready made potholders. I don't remember much but they looked just like the ones being made now but of course lacking the great fabrics.

Mommalonglegs 12-26-2016 08:53 AM

I have been offered $40 also for them. I have reworked the pattern to a smaller size and like it so much better. They still take a day to make. Author of the pattern did not write directions in a smaller size. I did my own trial and error. I like the size much better. They turn out to be 14 inches in diameter. Much cuter and fit the center of a table better. For them I have been offered $30.

Bree123 12-26-2016 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by Mommalonglegs (Post 7726479)
I have been offered $40 also for them. They still take a day to make.

Mommalonglegs, those 14" wreaths sound adorable! You definitely deserve more than $30 for them!

I just can't imagine how people can offer $30 for a day's worth of labor?! Assuming that's "only" 8 hours, it works out to be $3.75/hour -- assuming they bought all the materials & paid for your electric bill, and wear & tear on your machine & durable goods. I can't imagine doing that in this area. Minimum wage even for unskilled jobs like being a Wal-Mart greeter pays $10.50/hour. I can't for the life of figure out why people think it's okay to offer such insulting prices to quilters... well, okay, I can, but it still disturbs me. Hopefully some day, we as a society will cease to think it's acceptable to pay some child laborer in Bangladesh $1/day to sew our clothing & home goods in (typically) substandard conditions with the rationale that "at least they have a job now". Then, people will start to see the true cost to produce the things they so love. The fabric alone probably cost at least $10. Low-end for consumables and wear & tear and utilities would be $1. So that leaves you $19 for 8 hours of work (excluding your design time, time spent shopping for materials & any time spent with the buyer), or $2/hour. Sometimes I just want to ask people: "would you work for $2/hour?"

Stashelf 12-26-2016 10:12 AM

I donated 2 for a charity auction they went for $50 each. It takes me about 4 hours to make one. I use deco-bond and heat-n-bond instead of the foam so its a little cheaper. I try to buy as much of the materials as possible with 50% off coupons at JoAnns.

klswift 12-26-2016 05:13 PM

I sell a lot of fabric items so I only purchase fabric either wholesale or at a very good sale. I can make 2 'regular' size wreaths from 2 half yards of fabric and a half yard of a heavy interfacing. So, my total materials cost is around $6 - $7. I currently sell them for $18 - $24 and I sell a lot of them. The 2 pricing methods for selling items are either take your total materials cost x's 3 or if you make several at a time, take your total materials cost for several and add an hourly charge and divide by however many you made. Either of these final figures needs to be adjusted according to how things sell in your area. Also, if you are making them for a friend you may only want to recoup your material costs. The hexies use less fabric but take more time so I charge the same amount. You may also want to adjust for the amount of time you put into it. I make 2 at a time and it takes me less than 2 hours to do it, but, I have made a lot of them and have a routine.

vickig626 12-27-2016 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by Pennyhal (Post 7725737)
I've run into the Walmart syndrome all the time. People are always asking me if I can make one of my quilted jackets for them. When I tell them that they are $100 plus tax, the change their minds. So be upfront with what you need to charge and don't be shy about it.

I hear this all the time too. I just ask them if they can get a one-of-a-kind item at Walmart or any other retail store. Then I show them my purse which I've been carrying for several years and not one popped stitch. They either order or don't. Not going to short myself anymore.

as someone else mentioned, I go with the 3-4 x cost price too.

grammanene 02-14-2017 10:01 AM

Can I use the double sided fusible Bosal for the fold n' stitch wreath? I know the pattern says single sided, but has anyone used the double sided? Thanks in advance!

tessagin 02-14-2017 10:12 AM

If you use the double sided wouldn't they be hard to turn inside out?

Originally Posted by grammanene (Post 7764423)
Can I use the double sided fusible Bosal for the fold n' stitch wreath? I know the pattern says single sided, but has anyone used the double sided? Thanks in advance!


grammanene 02-14-2017 10:18 AM

Yes they would, but I'm thinking only if I fuse the one side as pattern says to, the once it's sewn together and turned inside out, THEN, press and it would fuse then. Any insight?


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