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rvsfan 03-14-2011 02:49 PM

I used 505 basting spray for the first time today. The quilt sandwiched together pretty good, (couple bad wrinkles in the backing), and seems to be tightly stuck together; however, I am having a terrible time moving the fabric around for FMQ. I started FMQ pretty quickly after spraying and now wonder if I needed to let it dry longer? I'm not good at FMQ, but I've never had trouble sliding the fabric around.

Qbee 03-14-2011 02:59 PM

Oh...good question :?: I'll be watching to see what the experts say :D


Originally Posted by rvsfan
I used 505 basting spray for the first time today. The quilt sandwiched together pretty good, (couple bad wrinkles in the backing), and seems to be tightly stuck together; however, I am having a terrible time moving the fabric around for FMQ. I started FMQ pretty quickly after spraying and now wonder if I needed to let it dry longer? I'm not good at FMQ, but I've never had trouble sliding the fabric around.


Alice PD 03-14-2011 03:20 PM

Me too...looking forward to the reply. I'm almost ready to 505 for my first time. I hadn't even thought of this. Good question!

Jim's Gem 03-14-2011 03:26 PM

There should not be any spray on the "outside" of your quilt sandwich. I use 505 all the time and though, usually, I am not able to immediately start quilting, I have never had a problem when I have. Several times I have sprayed and then taken the quilt to my sewing machine.

tangledthread 03-14-2011 03:33 PM

Hello, I did a chenille cuddle strip quilt with 505 and had no problems, I was able to peel back my material and reposition it if it tucked anywhere. Maybe try a topstich needle size 14 or 16? or loosen the pressure on your foot if you can? I am no expert, just a few suggestions.

mamaw 03-14-2011 03:50 PM

The can does not indicate that any drying time is required. Do not understand why you are having difficulties. Did you follow the directions and spray onto the batting???

rvsfan 03-14-2011 04:56 PM

Yes I sprayed onto the batting. The backing is 100% cotton toile. Maybe it's just that fabric that doesn't want to slide around. The only other FMQ I have done was with batiks and my FMQ was lousy, but at least the fabric slid around quite well.

Chigger Holler Quilter 03-14-2011 05:05 PM

Here is a link of a FMQ video where the gal recommends the 505 spray and answers a lot of questions about it (there are 4 videos in all and I did view all of them.) You might want to take a look. She did mention spraying the quilting table (hers is acrylic) with a spray to help the quilt slide around easier. Hope this helps and answers some questions for you! Good luck! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39I5A3iyCtw

grumpy90650 03-14-2011 05:09 PM

i used the dritz brand spray on my most recent quilt, and it did not need any time to dry, i started quilting right away.....if your quilt is hard to move, maybe you should try silicone spray on your machine, or a silicone pad under the quilt.........gina

Ceil 03-14-2011 05:15 PM

I recently saw someone recommending starching the quilt back to make it slide easier. At this point that might help.

rvsfan 03-14-2011 05:26 PM

Starching it is a good idea. I'll try it.

nativetexan 03-14-2011 05:33 PM

i've had different fabrics give me grief moving them around. it may be that.

littlehud 03-14-2011 06:14 PM

I think it may be the fabric. I've never had any problems with 505 spray.

swanrd 03-15-2011 02:04 AM

Thanks for the link.

justlooking 03-15-2011 02:55 AM

I will be looking at the links too!

Gee Hope 03-15-2011 03:23 AM

Is this the same 505 spray that is used for machine embroidery? Has anyone tried Gunold's KK100 spray for embroidery or for quilt basting? I saw the Gunold's spray at a LQS that also features embroidery machines and I would like to know if anyone has tried it.

mimiknoxtaylor 03-15-2011 03:37 AM

I only use the 505 for my embroidery because it does adhere so well. For basting my quilts I use quilt basting spray -think I have June Taylor , so I can smooth out the wrinkles more easily

gal288 03-15-2011 03:42 AM

I use 505 all the time & have not experienced this problem.
Did you spray heavily? I spray lightly, with a quick side to side motion, onn the batting.
I roll my quilt up, starting at the top align it, & begin to slowly unroll, smoothing, as I go. I find there are less puckers this way.
I do the back first, then turn the backing down, spray the batting again & do the front.
I don' t spray all the way to the edge, usually stop 4-5 " from it. Maybe when you sprayed, some got on the back of the quilt which is hanging it up?

juliea9967 03-15-2011 05:10 AM

Not an expert, but I always let it dry for about 30 seconds before I "attach" it to whatever. It seems to stick better.

cat-on-a-mac 03-15-2011 06:37 AM

I use a "Supreme Slider" to help the fabric move around freely. Helps a lot. CHeck out Leah Day's website (daystyledesigns.com)

Joan Gaddis 03-15-2011 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by tangledthread
Hello, I did a chenille cuddle strip quilt with 505 and had no problems, I was able to peel back my material and reposition it if it tucked anywhere. Maybe try a topstich needle size 14 or 16? or loosen the pressure on your foot if you can? I am no expert, just a few suggestions.

love your avatar!!!

majormom 03-15-2011 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by Chigger Holler Quilter
Here is a link of a FMQ video where the gal recommends the 505 spray and answers a lot of questions about it (there are 4 videos in all and I did view all of them.) You might want to take a look. She did mention spraying the quilting table (hers is acrylic) with a spray to help the quilt slide around easier. Hope this helps and answers some questions for you! Good luck! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39I5A3iyCtw

Thanks for the link! Putting the quilt sandwich together by hanging it on the wall is really a super idea. Most wrinkles must just hang out! She has some wonderful tips.

sassy granny 03-15-2011 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by tangledthread
Hello, I did a chenille cuddle strip quilt with 505 and had no problems, I was able to peel back my material and reposition it if it tucked anywhere. Maybe try a topstich needle size 14 or 16? or loosen the pressure on your foot if you can? I am no expert, just a few suggestions.

Just had to say, Beautiful baby.

sassy granny 03-15-2011 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by rvsfan
Yes I sprayed onto the batting. The backing is 100% cotton toile. Maybe it's just that fabric that doesn't want to slide around. The only other FMQ I have done was with batiks and my FMQ was lousy, but at least the fabric slid around quite well.

Maybe you sprayed a little too heavy. I've only sprayed one time and did very well. I actually felt a little drag but not bad and I was thinking that maybe I sprayed too heavy. Later, I saw a teaching video and the lady was sandwiching her top and it looked like she was spraying very lightly.

sewnsewer2 03-15-2011 02:01 PM

It's the only kind I use and no, no waiting. It will stay stuck or over a week too!

jitkaau 03-15-2011 03:55 PM

I've not used the 505, but always spray baste my quilts. Whenever I put the sandwich together, I always leave at least 24 hours before I start quilting. This way, I don't get high on the fumes and I've never had a gunky needle. Perhaps if you have been too heavy handed with the spray, did some of it soak through? You only need to give it a very light spray to have it adhere.

christinetindell 03-15-2011 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by Ceil
I recently saw someone recommending starching the quilt back to make it slide easier. At this point that might help.

That was me;)

AVQuilter 03-15-2011 09:40 PM

Great tutorials!! Answered all my questions and more.
Thank you for this link.

penski 03-16-2011 08:55 AM

i use 505 all the time and have never had a problem , after spraying the quilt it usually sits for about 5 min, while i clean up my mess and gather everything i need to start quilting on it , do you think you might of gotten some spray on the backside of the quilt? making it stick to the table?

My time 03-16-2011 10:53 AM

Actually I've been told to spray the fabric and this is what I do. Make sure your backing is well stretched and secure, packing tape works well, before you add the batting.

Jim's Gem 03-16-2011 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by sewnsewer2
It's the only kind I use and no, no waiting. It will stay stuck or over a week too!

How about several months!! I have some here I sprayed a while(maybe 18 mos)


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