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mcdaniel023 11-03-2009 12:53 PM

My advice....if you find a fabric that you like, pet it and hold it up to the light. You will be able to tell if it is of quality that you would like to work with. If it is, it doesn't matter where it came from. :)

materialgrl 11-03-2009 04:06 PM

I love to buy fabric and sometimes all I can afford is walmart,I also buy online and some from my LQS, but my favorite place is my Ben Franklins.They have flat folds I have even found thimbleberrys for under 4 dollors,I don't know why they are cheaper,but i haven't been unhappy and it satisfys my need for a fabric fix, :roll:

QuiltMania 11-03-2009 04:08 PM

In my experience, it doesn't matter where you buy fabric. I've bought some expensive stuff at quilt shops that was absolute garbage and some inexpensive stuff at Walmart that was wonderful and vice versa. I feel the fabric and look at it closely. My suggestion would be to find fabric that you like and take note of the manufacturer, not where you bought it. After all, the manufacturer is the bottom line in terms of quality control. If you buy fabric that turns out to be not so great, don't buy from that manufacturer again regardless what store you happen to be at.

Naturalmama 11-03-2009 04:38 PM

Are there certain mfg's to stay away from? I hate to admit it, but I've never even paid attn to who mfg any fabric.... it makes sense though.

Mousie 11-03-2009 05:20 PM

I third that idea!
I would probably buy some of all three, depending on my budget, and what it was for, at the time.
But I would be an informed consumer! :D

Mousie 11-03-2009 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by Naturalmama
I really love all the insight I'm getting here! :) I hope you don't mind - I know I will be asking a lot more questions like this!

naturalmama, every time you ask a quilty question, we all learn or are reminded. That's a good thing :D

Favorite Fabrics 11-03-2009 07:17 PM

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I'm not so sure about the first-second-third run idea. Charismah may know something that I don't... there is, in the fabric business, something called a "strike-off". That's a test-printing of a fabric design. Well, let me back up. First the designer makes the artwork (and this is usually digital these days). Then (for prints) there are up to 16 screens that are engraved for printing the design. A screen is a fine-mesh metal cylinder, often with a 24" circumference (that's the vertical pattern repeat). The cylinder is initially coated with a substance that isn't penetrable by dye. A computer-driven laser is used to open pinpoint holes in the screen, which let the dye through; each different color in the finished print needs its own screen. All of the screens are mounted (very precisely!) on the rotary presses that print the design. (I'm attaching in a picture of one of the machines that used to operate at Cranston/VIP. I was pleased to have been able to tour their facility, before they stopped printing at their Massachusetts plant this past June.)

The first initial printing, the strike-off, gives an opportunity to see if the design translates well from artwork/paper to fabric. Usually it is a very small run, and the cloth is used to create samples for the fabric company's salespersons to show to shopowners and garment manufacturers. Sometimes multiple strike-offs are done, to get the quality of the print up to the standards of the fabric manufacturer. But it's not my impression that the strike-off fabrics generally make it into the retail sales world.

I'm not sure that the fabric manufacturers generally print a different quality of fabric for the chains, versus the LQS market. I think that, unless the chain specifically commissions an entire printing to be done to a (lesser) quality, whether the fabric is sold to a chain, or to a LQS, it's all being pulled from the same stock in the same warehouse. There are fabrics that I buy for my shop, that are EXACTLY the same prints as what I've seen in JoAnns. The only thing is... the LQS's generally get to carry a line for a half-year before it is offered to the chains (this is for Robert Kaufman and Timeless Treasures fabrics). I have seen Marcus fabrics that were printed in specific colorways for JoAnns and were printed on lesser quality greige goods, than the quilt-shop versions.

I think that what we all perceive as better (more attractive) fabrics is probably due to the quality of the printing: more screens equals a greater depth of color. It's also (obviously) more expensive to print a fabric with sixteen colors, rather than one with just two or three. Screens can be finer or coarser mesh, for a more or less detailed design. Some greige goods are heavier than others. I'm not convinced that thread count is everything... Michael Miller, Timeless Treasures, Robert Kaufman and Alexander Henry print on a little heavier fabric than most of the other manufacturers. Springs Industries fabrics are frankly very lightweight. And then the various finishes do result in a different "hand". (I really don't know much about finishes at all.)

Today a sales rep stopped by; he sells fabric from at least a half-dozen manufacturers and what he said was that there are fewer mills printing fabric these days, but that their quality has improved greatly over the last decade and they're all pretty much capable of producing the same high-quality prints. (The mills are typically in China, South Korea, and Japan. Only Santee still prints here in the US.)

When I choose fabrics, I really base my decision on the look of the design. I know that some manufacturers tend to have better animal prints, and some do a great job with flowers, others tend to draw upon a certain color palette that I find pleasing; yet others have their strength in the coordinating collections that they put together. It all depends on what you personally find appealing. I really haven't seen much of anything on the market lately that I would call "bad" in terms of quality.

Choose the fabrics that delight your eye. Touch them to make sure that they feel nice too. Beyond that... don't worry about it. But if buying in person, do watch as the fabrics are unrolled and measured; regardless of the manufacturer, it's the nature of fabrics that there is the occasional irregularity in the weave of the cloth. In busy patterns you'd never notice it, but in solid colors or pale prints it can really show. If buying online, buy from a store that you trust to be looking over the fabric carefully before sending it, the same way you'd be looking it over if you were there.




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Naturalmama 11-03-2009 09:35 PM

That was very informative! Thank you!

Loisrhunter 11-04-2009 08:34 AM

I found out by using cheap stuff from Joanns, (I ignored their good stuff)it isn't holding up very well....and for all of the work you put into a quilt, not worth it to me
Lois

Anna O 11-04-2009 09:11 AM

What I have found is that the lower quality fabric fades. I made my grandchildren quilts using lower quality fabrics and they have all faded with repeated washings. I'd say, if you can't afford the good fabric, just wait until you can. The hours of labor and other expenses just aren't worth it. Same for batting. I found the WalMart/JoAnn's batting didn't hold up after repeated washings. My favorite is Quilter's Dream.


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