foundation vs paper
This might sound silly to some of you. But, I have to ask it any way. Is there a difference between foundation piecing and paper piecing? If so, what? Is it just the complexity of the paper piecing where you piece onto an actual printed pattern verses random placement?
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In my experience, paper piecing is done for blocks with a very specific pattern where the pattern is printed on the paper and you follow exactly where stitching lines are drawn. AFter piecing small sections, they are combined to get the final block and the paper is taken out. Foundation piecing is more general - while you may end up with a pattern, it's usually less detailed - usually strips or squares/rectangles that are stitched to the foundation sequentially to form a larger, simple shape. The foundation can be anything - paper, or fabric - and if it's fabric, its left in. In short, paper piecing is foundation piecing, but foundation piecing is not alway paper piecing....just like a square is always a rectangle but a rectangle is not always a square....does that make sense?
There is also foundation fabric that has a stitching template printed on it that is used in foundation piecing. |
Leesa, I'm so glad you asked this question. I have always wondered about the same thing. Another thing that puzzles me is leaving the paper in. Someone posted earlier a neat string quilt done on phone book pages. I was embarrassed to ask it she let the paper in. Wouldn't that be uncomfortable? I do know from history that women did newpaper piecing for those in the war. This was to keep them warm. I just can't imagine washing a quilt that has paper foundations.
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My definition - I know it's not the one everyone uses - is that paper piecing means using paper as a foundation. Paper piecing is just one form of foundation piecing.
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Originally Posted by ktbb
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In my experience, paper piecing is done for blocks with a very specific pattern where the pattern is printed on the paper and you follow exactly where stitching lines are drawn. AFter piecing small sections, they are combined to get the final block and the paper is taken out. Foundation piecing is more general - while you may end up with a pattern, it's usually less detailed - usually strips or squares/rectangles that are stitched to the foundation sequentially to form a larger, simple shape. The foundation can be anything - paper, or fabric - and if it's fabric, its left in. In short, paper piecing is foundation piecing, but foundation piecing is not alway paper piecing....just like a square is always a rectangle but a rectangle is not always a square....does that make sense?
There is also foundation fabric that has a stitching template printed on it that is used in foundation piecing. |
I prefer paper piecing to foundation. With foundation you are more limited on what designs you can make. With paper you can make several small and intricate parts of a block and then join them whereas with foundation you must stick to a specific pattern. I don't know if that makes sense if you haven't done both. Foundation may be better for "crazy" quilts, but you always run the risk of getting some unwanted puckers sewn into the foundation that cannot be removed. The paper is all torn out. It can be messy, but works great once you get the hang of it.
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Originally Posted by GailG
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Leesa, I'm so glad you asked this question. I have always wondered about the same thing. Another thing that puzzles me is leaving the paper in. Someone posted earlier a neat string quilt done on phone book pages. I was embarrassed to ask it she let the paper in. Wouldn't that be uncomfortable? I do know from history that women did newpaper piecing for those in the war. This was to keep them warm. I just can't imagine washing a quilt that has paper foundations.
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For me, paper piecing is when there is a pattern printed on the foundation. You can use paper, fabric (iron fabric to freezer paper and run it through your ink jet printer) or use non-woven sheets (June Taylor has a product that you can use for this) that you can run through an ink jet or lazer printer. If you use paper, you would remove the paper after all the blocks have been sewn together. If you use fabric or the non-woven sheets, you would leave them in.
Foundation piecing is when you are sewing fabrics together without a pattern, as for string quilts, coin quilts or crazy quilts. The foundation can be fabric or paper, or non-woven sheets. Some people also use pressed (flattened) coffee filters or used fabric softener dryer sheets. If you use paper, you should remove it, but fabric or non-woven materials can be left in. I have talked to quilters who use adding machine paper, tissue paper, TV guide pages, yellow pages, paper like you find in a dentist or doctor's office on a roll or just plain photocopy paper cut to size. Of course, as was said by someone else, all paper piecing is foundation piecing, but not all foundation piecing is paper piecing. |
Foundation piecing results in a heavier quilt because the quilt has an extra layer of fabric in it. In paper piecing, the paper is removed nowadays so it makes for a lighter quilt.
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PP is a type of foundation piecing I believe. PP uses paper but you can use muslin and other things as well
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paper piecing is 'foundation piecing' ...difference is- paper has to be removed- fabric (often a light weight interfacing or muslin) is an additional layer in your quilt- stays in. the 'process' is the same...some of us prefer to use fabric foundations because we hate removing papers & like to make heavier/warmer quilts.
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The foundation printed on fabric is " Foundation By The Yard" from Benartex. There are about 18 different designs each making a small quilt or wall hanging of about 36 x 40".
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I thought paper piecing was when you fold hexagons or some other shape around a paper template and whipstitch them together. Or maybe not.....
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I make a lot of scrap quilts & use both paper & fabric for foundations. For my specific PP patterns I use paper- even recycled paper that only has printing on 1 side & is still in good enough shape to go through printer.
For my crazy quilt blocks & string blocks, selvage blocks - I use different stuff. Found some thin, light pink fabric in my stash yesterday & I'll put it in my bin with my crazy quilt scraps & use it as foundations. Like someone already said, the only real difference is that the paper comes off while fabric stays in. Bonnie Hunter has all kinds of tips for this on her site- Quiltville. She says she saves all the mess ups from the printer & uses those for a lot of hers. |
I don't care for paper piecing but I do use phone book pages for backing for string quilts. It keeps everything neat and flat and controls the bias edges.
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My new mattress came with a thin, non-woven cover, almost like Pelion. I saved the cover to cut up for my next foundation pieced project. I think that if I go to a mattress store, or a furniture store, I can get all that type of fabric that I want, or will ever need. Just ask, and I am sure you will receive! I love to be frugal!
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Foundation piecing whether on lightweight fabric such as muslin or non-woven interfacing is generally the assembly of random sized scraps into a useful size such as string quilts or crazy quilts. On the other hand paper piecing generally involves very intricate patterns with lots of sharp points. Both the fabric and foundation are manipulated to produce the design. Small pieces of fabric are added one at a time, trimmed to straight shape (no curves) and then added to with other straight shapes. Various quilt artists have taken this concept to new heights-Judy Martin, Carol Doak and Judy Neimeyer. Designs can be quite simple or very intricate.
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Originally Posted by charlottequilts
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I thought paper piecing was when you fold hexagons or some other shape around a paper template and whipstitch them together. Or maybe not.....
hugs, charlotte |
I do remove the paper from my blocks. You can use old telephone pages if your blocks will fit on the page, or you can buy newsprint paper on rolls at school supply stores or you can get the ends of rolls from a newspaper company to use. Have fun.
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Originally Posted by ziegamomma
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My new mattress came with a thin, non-woven cover, almost like Pelion. I saved the cover to cut up for my next foundation pieced project. I think that if I go to a mattress store, or a furniture store, I can get all that type of fabric that I want, or will ever need. Just ask, and I am sure you will receive! I love to be frugal!
My avator quilt was made with foundation piecing--no guides to sew by. Helps stabilize the small blocks this is made from. |
When I use scrap paper, tissue or phone book paper to foundation piece a quilt I leave the paper in and then when I wash it the paper just melts into the batting, no harm no foul. Why would any one spend time on a totally unnecessary step of tearing the paper out. It seems to me that everyone is so focused on the rules and how to do everything just exactly right that they are loosing sight of the main reason we quilt ..... To make pretty and warm bed covers for our family and friends. If you are an "art quilter" then just ignore this post. I am sure different rules apply to you.
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Originally Posted by weezie
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Charlotte, google 'English Paper Piecing'. I think that is what you are describing.
hugs, charlotte |
Originally Posted by charlottequilts
(Post 6503354)
I thought paper piecing was when you fold hexagons or some other shape around a paper template and whipstitch them together. Or maybe not.....
hugs, charlotte |
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