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Originally Posted by Teri D
(Post 5239767)
This sort of thing is going on in just about any "hobby". I'm an amateur astronomer and we get into discussions about whether it is "cheating" to use those "new fangled" telescopes that automatically orient themselves with built-in GPS systems and then automatically move to a celestial object you select and then track it for you while you "observe" by watching a computer screen! I still like to operate my scopes manually and look through an eyepiece (sometimes while perched on a ladder since one of my scopes is taller than I am!) because I enjoy hunting for stuff -- which takes time and a knowledge of the location of celestial objects in the sky built up over many years of practice. Yes, at times I catch myself thinking that the other folks are "cheating" but then I realize that the whole point is to enjoy the beauty of the creation -- so the method you use is irrelevant. Quilting, like astronomy, reminds me a bit of the biblical passage that goes something like: "in My house there are many mansions".....
You're right about the beauty. Overhead and underground. (I like Geology, too) If it wasn't for the prism used to analyze color from starlight, we wouldn't have all these shades and stuff advanced by technology. There's beauty in every quilt - regardless of how it's done. The quilt using the ugliest fabrics and rather rough might have its beauty in the story behind it. Or the beauty of someone trying to teach themselves without any guidance. The fact that they persevered is beauty. |
if you counted all the people here that would of gone home with you , You'll have a real crowded home. but I bet we all would have fun. LOL ..... I believe that we just use more up to date tools for this art form. But no matter what your preference is for working it it still is quilting. Here is another one I have heard people argue about:
That embroidery isn't really embroirdery if you do it by machine. What else can it be for petes sake? |
Seriously, I'd probably have stayed, listening and giggling at them. :D
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I have to add this one...the long arm quilters who say I am not really a quilter because my long arm is computerized.
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Some people need to know they are entitled to their opinion but the rest of the world has the option to disagree with their opinion as well. Good for you going home to quilt. We also have the right to not listen to this heated discussion and find something better to do.
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Originally Posted by Debbie C
(Post 5240067)
what a waste of time by those cackling hens when they could have been enjoying their time together creating something beautiful and long-lasting - I suppose this is why I am happiest (alone) in my home studio
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I'd rather quilt than fight. To each her own! Does the fact that my ancesters didn't use a rotary cutter make me a non-quilter because I do? I think not! I would have been out of the door with you!
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Wow I think I would have just laughed and walked away. There is so much more in this world to worry about especially where on earth am I going to store all the fabric I keep buying for all those quilt ideas in my head!! Happy quilting
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Life is short. You left and that is the right decision. We are all quilters of either fabric or life. We put fabric together either by piecing, applique or putting layers together. We also put our and others lives together. Quilters we all are and appreciate everyone of them.
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I am so sick of some people thinking they are better than others. You are a quilter if you make a quilt, period. The top is the quilt. If you send it to someone to longarm, so be it. That is your choice, no better no less. Your choice, at least the quilt gets quilted.
I was told by a guild leader that the quilt I was working on wasn't a real quilt because it was a quilt as you go and I sewed it together on my serger. I don't belong to the guild any longer. Glad you left. |
this reminds of a certain president who had a certain word discussion.......
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How sad that others have to put folks down for doing things differently than they do. I appreciate all forms of quilting, and truly appreciate the advances made that have made parts of quilting easier and safer, especially as I get older. Good for you for just leaving -- why allow those negative folks to taint what is a truly a happy, creative and giving art such as ours?
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The wonderful lady who does long-arm work for me is my partner in quilting. I do hand piece as well as machine piece. I also hand quilt and use my domestic machine for some quilting. I have been know to work with other people on designing and piecing tops. We are all quilters! My grandmother, who taught me to quilt 55 years ago, learned to hand piece. She taught me on a treadle machine! She would have loved the beautiful work my long arm quilter does! She would never had said that what I did was any less a quilt than what she did all by hand as a young woman. Some people think they know everything, but in reality know very little!!!!!!1
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Originally Posted by spokanequilter
(Post 5241298)
"Cackling hens" - LOL!! Seriously, I agree with you - I do my best work and am most content at home in my own little quilting studio doing my own thing. There's noone but me in that studio and I am a quilter, even if I only piece the tops. And someone should just ask those cackling hens just what they would be doing if we didn't piece those quilt tops for them to quilt.... ho hum... life's too short for that kind of argument...
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Originally Posted by BellaBoo
(Post 5238088)
I would have had a ball making that group mad as wet hens. LOL. There would be no end to the comments I could have made, the more absurd the better! I would have laughed my butt off just hearing the debate out loud. I'd say you do it your way I'll do it my way and we'll let God sort it out, in the mean time pass me the cheater cloth.
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SuzyQ2-remember it's what you do with your hands, and your heart that counts, many people are just stubborn headed, and enjoy their way of doing things-Just think of yourself as a "Modern" Girl-who goes with the flow-Enjoy your Art no matter what way you do it-at least you get things done faster than the OLD Fuddy duddies-haha
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Originally Posted by quiltmau
(Post 5240220)
I love to design and piece tops. I can't quilt to save my soul!-Binding is okay. My main problem is I can't afford to pay up to $300 to have the tops quilted as I won't keep them but donate them.
I need to find a solution to this before I am smothered in tops! LOL |
Originally Posted by Quiltbyme
(Post 5240047)
Question ?? When you send your quit top to a long arm quilter do they bind the edge before you get it back or do you have to do it.
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Originally Posted by Steady Stiching
(Post 5239562)
You're only a real quilter if you hand quilt using a needle you whittled out of a whale bone using thread you spun from your own cotton plants.....while breast feeding a 5 year old ....LOL
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There are many steps in the process of making a quilt. Piecing the top, basting the top, batting and backing together, quilting the layers, and applying the binding. Who is to say that you must do every step of the process yourself or it isn't a quilt? I machine piece because it is fun to sew on my little Brother machine. I can't sew well enough to do anything else but straight lines, but that's all I need to piece a quilt top. I hand quilt because I enjoy the slow steady rhythm of each stitch and it gives me time alone to just be. Besides, I don't have the skill to machine quilt. It's all good.
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Good grief, people with this kind of time to waste astound me!
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That's sort of like asking if someone is a "real" mother if she only has stepkids or adopted kids. Sounds to me like they were suffering from terminal stupidity.
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when "purists" talk to me about only 100% cotton, etc, I tell them the womwn in the covered wagons used what came to hand. And those quilts are admired in museums
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I try to avoid negative judgmental types in all aspects of my life, quilting included. Such a silly thing to argue about :(
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that hasn't happened to me at a quilting thing, but actually at a group of people from my church and they started raising their voices a bit and getting somewhat argumentative. I just said "Sorry folks. I gotta go" and left. Didn't seem like either time or place...if there ever is a time for loud arguing....I'd rather find something better to do with my time. YIKES
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There is room for everyone in the quilting world. The first quilt I ever made was cut out with scissors and stitched on my machine. I like to think that I have advanced as methods have advanced. I am not to old to learn a new way of doing things or to appreciate the love and work that went into a quilt if it was made using a different method than I use. What a sad world to be so narrow minded. You were right to go leave. I would have been right behind you.
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I used to think that, but if you follow that line of thinking clear through, we would be walking and not riding in ANYTHING. Let alone still sending smoke signals instead of using cell phones. I agree with the lady who said that the early women appreciated their sewing machines. I DO think hand quilting is lovely and so is machine quilting. I sure would like to do it as well as the artists I have seen on this site. Maybe they were having a bad day???
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She probably doesn't sew anything but just likes to complain. There are many of them out there;
just give me one or two who love to do parts or all of the making of a quilt. I have 2 tops ready for a LAQ, (just not the funds right now, but soon). I love to hand quilt but I am a slow quilter and right now I don't have room in my living room to put up a frame; I have GD living with me and I had my fabric in her room and it has gravitated to the living room in tubs....I was so hoping to clean in there this weekend. |
Originally Posted by merry
(Post 5237870)
SusieQ, some people will argue about anything :D I'd have gone home with you :thumbup:
Maire |
Who cares? If nobody 'built' the tops, nobody would 'quilt' the layers.... Also, which came first the chicken or the egg? Same idea. Are you a homemaker if you send your clothes out to be washed and have a housekeeper?
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I agree it was a waste of time and I would have gone home with you too! And I laugh because I can hear my Mom say " some peoples children". LOL (of course it was me she was usually talking about)
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Originally Posted by Annie68
(Post 5237694)
You did the right thing by going home. Time is too short to be arguing over such silliness.
: ) And just as an aside, I think a quilter is anyone who makes a top... period. I hate when people get their panties all in a twist over defining somebody else. Grrrrrrrrrrr! |
Originally Posted by Maire
(Post 5243376)
So true! In those situations ignoring is the best reply. And don't let it bother you.
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oh i swore i would always complete my quilts myself. then i had two done for me and it was just fine!!! so yes you are a "quilter" even if someone else does the design quilting for you.
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I love this board, I have been sewing since I was about 9, started quilting when I was about 25, I have sewn many tops, and even quilted quite a few, but, because it is often easier and less expensive to send my tops to a local longarm quilter because i want the receipient to feel comfortable washing it, according to my LAquilter, she feels that we do all of the work, and they just sandwich it together using our ideas, I still quilt the occasional by hand, but not if I feel the quilt will be washed very often, and I can't afford to buy my own machine
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Originally Posted by tesspug
(Post 5242533)
Could some body please do a tutorial on how to whittle a whale bone needle. LOL
1. Catch a whale........ 2. Let me know when step one is finished and we'll continue the tute. |
Jacquie, I love binding too!
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