Hear is my answer about 505 Spray
I wrote to the Odif company about there 505 spray and the can directions to remove adhesive by dry cleaning. Here is there answer:
Dear Sue 505 is the leading basting / Embroidery spray in the market and has over 50 years history on fabric and it is the only spray in the market that was developed especially for use with fabric and thread. Over time 505 will dry and break down during washing and if possible will migrate out of the fibers during the wash. However, if you never wash the quilts it will do no harm. The propellant evaporates and only thing that holds to your quilt is the adhesive and it is an inert resin that does no harm or change over time. You will never know it is there. I hope 505 saved you from traditional basting and helped you make a wonderful quilt. Please contact me if you have any additional questions. Best regards, Jennifer O’Brien ODIF USA 458 Danbury Rd, A-18 New Milford, CT 06776 Ph 860-350-5565 Now I'm still not sure if I will continue to use it! It does make basting so quick and easy. |
Now I'm still not sure if I will continue to use it! What negatives do you have about the spray? Seems it's harmless to fabric. |
I have always wondered if one is not able to get to the quilting after using the spray say for a couple weeks will the fibers break when folded. Is it a soft adhesive or does it make the quilt stiff.
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However, if you never wash the quilts it will do no harm. The propellant evaporates and only thing that holds to your quilt is the adhesive and it is an inert resin that does no harm or change over time. You will never know it is there. |
I've used 505 spray for several years now. I hav e never had any type of problem with it. It does not gum up your needle and it does not make your quilt stiff at all. I love the product.
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"Over time 505 will dry and break down during washing and if possible will migrate out of the fibers during the wash. However, if you never wash the quilts it will do no harm."
Never wash the quilts? Ok, I can use it on wallhangings. I don't like the "dry and break down during washing" and the "if possible will migrate". If it does not migrate, do you have bits and pieces of dry chunks inside the quilt? Dayle |
"Over time 505 will dry and break down during washing and if possible will migrate out of the fibers during the wash."
What does this mean, exactly? I make my quilts to be used, and therefore washed. I just bought my first can of 505, and I think it will be my last can. |
I love 505, have used it on many quilts over the years. Does not make it stiff, no hard pieces or residue, it just seems to disappear over time. I don't understand the concerns---you would never know it was there if not washed, and if washed it washes out, does not leave anything noticible behind.
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There is no way I would give up my basting spray. I have only had a problem with one and it was not the 505. I guess one could make a spray with the school glue, and just wait for it to dry. But going back to the pinning or sew basting is just not going to happen here.
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I've been working on one quilt, off and on almost a year that I spray basted with 505 and it isn't stiff in the least. Nor has it come unstuck at all. I've had other quilts that I've washed a number of times and never noticed any difference.
You'd have to pry my 505 out of my cold, dead hands. Watson |
I am a fan. Love 505 and have never had any problems with it. Once I wash my quilt it feels like just fabric, batting and thread-no stiffness, residue or "chunks" of anything :-)
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love it... it saves so much hassle especially on smaller pieces that you want to stay put whilst quilting!
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Breaks down and migrates.....just like starch or Elmer or sizing....water dissolves and the residue is carried away by the water.....or if not washed....will just break down and be absorbed by the atmosphere.......sounds safe to me, although I never questioned it to begin with! I have even used it to hold down the sides of a quilt when working on my longarm! No gummy needle or bobbin area there ......
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No, you won't have chunks, because you won't spray it on that thick!
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I love 505 spray and never had a problem. I too wash and use my quilts and they are always soft never ever stiff.
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Once you start using it, most people never look back. I love it. I probably wouldn't be quilting if I had to pin the thing.
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My wife loves 505. After watching the following video and trying it, 505 is here to stay in my house. I was doing some research on basting and came across this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UoUzK19Vww&index=2&list=PLxRGbwWIUfEpIAFi yqqVWxx2EOlOdI30j
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I recently quilted a sandwiched (basted with 505) quilt that I sprayed 2 1/2 years ago. It was not tacky to touch, but the sandwich was still intact. I put a few safety pins on the corners and stitched away. I was delighted that it held for so long. I don't think it was re-positionable at that point, but I was happy.
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I discovered this spray a few years ago. There is no overspray, does not gum up the needle and washes out. It is also odorfree. My friend has an allergy to the 505 and this one does not bother her............................
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I am staying with the spray! I do not pin any more. It was always so hard to make sure there as no blood left on my quilts! My hands get too dry, pinning makes them crack. Love spray!
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There was a discussion about 505 spray, on this site several years back. There was a link to a research project that stated that 505 was considered the safest spray to be used on 'museum quality' quilts. It 'aged' the best, for want of a better term and never affected the fabrics. My quilts will never be museum quality but if it's good enough for them, it's certainly good enough for me. Sorry I can't remember who started the thread or the link to the research. But I definitely remember reading that statement because I passed it on to several quilting friends.
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I love the product. Hope it stays on the market.
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Originally Posted by YC Quilter
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I wrote to the Odif company about their 505 spray and the can directions to remove adhesive by dry cleaning. Here is their answer:
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Confused here. Isn't the purpose of 505 simply to hold the batting, front and back of quilt in place just while it is being quilted? If you follow the directions on the batting label it will tell you how far apart your quilting lines should be to prevent shifting of the layers so, if you follow their instructions, why would you have to worry if the spray washed out. If no hard, dried particles remain and it doesn't affect the fabrics, as others have attested, why not use it or am I not understanding the problem?
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Originally Posted by Wonnie
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If no hard, dried particles remain and it doesn't affect the fabrics, as others have attested, why not use it or am I not understanding the problem?
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i will continue to spray baste. If it weren't for basting spray I would not be quilting. I don't have the patience for pinning or thread basting.
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I, too, use it every time to baste my quilts. I have left them sit for months. I have snuggle quilts we have used almost daily during the last four winter months. They get washed often. No problems with any of them. I would not give it up.
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Originally Posted by Onebyone
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I think not knowing it is there would mean it's not stiff. I have used 505 and never had a problem.
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I too have used the 505 spray. I made my grandson, daughter-in-law and son, also made my daughter a quilt. Never has anyone of them complained about any hard particles in their quilts. I made them 5 and 6 yrs ago. I love the spray. It is a miracle worker and time saver.
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Thanks for posting this info! I think if I was making an "heirloom" quilt, I'd avoid using it.
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I've used 505 spray consistently over the last 20 years and have never had any problems, nor have my kids had any with the grandkids and believe me, they wash quilts often!
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I use it on any quilt that I do not put on the long arm. I use it for baby quilts and wall hangings. Sometimes, I wash the quilt when it's done and sometimes I don't. I have never had a problem with it and I will continue to use it.
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One of the renowned quilters (gosh I cannot recall her name right now) said that she had a quilt sprayed with 505 for 4 years and it was still good. I like it better than Sullivan's - I can barely smell the chemicals of the 505. It handles nicely during the quilting process and the quilt feels soft after the wash. Larger quilts ARE A BUGGER to spray and get to lay smoothly. My setup leaves a bit to be desired so I have to reposition the layers from time to time until I get everything right.
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ok, if I understand correctly, I think YC Quilter wonders why the can says: "...and the can directions to remove adhesive by dry cleaning."
The company is not saying 'you have to remove the adhesive', it's saying that if you WANT to remove it, do so by dry cleaning. In other words, the other information does not conflict with the first part. |
I've used it on my quilts, and never had a problem. In fact the quilt I have over my sofa has been washed more times than I care to think about (vomit courtesy of old puddy cat) and havent seen or felt anything that would vaguely make me think that that 505 is being "shed".
I do have a question though. I've had a wee break from quilting over this past year and I recently went to sandwich a top and back that I had worked on summer of last year, but when I used my 505 there was no tackiness and it nothing stuck! Does it eventually go off? Or was it just a fluke? |
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