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Ariane911 11-22-2012 05:36 AM

Help find this advent, Please.
 
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Again!...I find myself in a pattern hunt! How do I end up falling in love with the hard to find:-)

Does anyone know where I can find it? I left blog comments and emailed! No responses. Anyone?

QuiltnNan 11-22-2012 06:14 AM

it's really cute. it looks like a quarter log cabin with half triangles added to the ends. and by the looks of the hands holding it, it is really large!

MTS 11-22-2012 08:37 AM

I give up.

It's all done in EQ but the files - similar to ones I upload here ALL the time - just aren't uploading today.

I've gotta get this clay mask off my face so I will try again later tonight.

If you want to PM me your email address, I'll gladly send them that way.

thimblebug6000 11-22-2012 09:02 AM

I made one with an appliqué center but the outside edges are not just HST, they are 3 D so that they form a pocket to put the little advent gifts into, I don't have a picture, but it probably only had the 24 pockets.

thimblebug6000 11-22-2012 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by thimblebug6000 (Post 5673363)
I made one with an appliqué center but the outside edges are not just HST, they are 3 D so that they form a pocket to put the little advent gifts into, I don't have a picture, but it probably only had the 24 pockets.

Here's a cropped photo of how the pockets are arranged on the outside edge of mine so that you get your 24 pockets, sorry for the poor quality of picture but it just happened to be in the background of another photo. [ATTACH=CONFIG]378020[/ATTACH]

pdcakm 11-22-2012 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by Ariane911 (Post 5673043)
Again!...I find myself in a pattern hunt! How do I end up falling in love with the hard to find:-)

Does anyone know where I can find it? I left blog comments and emailed! No responses. Anyone?

here it is http://angiequilts.blogspot.com/2012...-workshop.html

ok, sorry. this is just pics. no pattern.

kristakz 11-22-2012 12:26 PM

Maybe this group will answer? They say "pattern coming soon" last November. http://broadbentsmqg.blogspot.ca/201...1_archive.html

Mom3 11-22-2012 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by pdcakm (Post 5673553)
here it is http://angiequilts.blogspot.com/2012...-workshop.html

ok, sorry. this is just pics. no pattern.


If it helps any, the HST's are 1-1/2" unfinished (this shows in one of the under construction pictures).

Ariane911 11-22-2012 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by kristakz (Post 5673594)
Maybe this group will answer? They say "pattern coming soon" last November. http://broadbentsmqg.blogspot.ca/201...1_archive.html

ive tried but have yet to hear anything yet.

Ariane911 11-22-2012 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by MTS (Post 5673336)
I give up.

It's all done in EQ but the files - similar to ones I upload here ALL the time - just aren't uploading today.

I've gotta get this clay mask off my face so I will try again later tonight.

If you want to PM me your email address, I'll gladly send them that way.

thank you again! You are a gem! I PMd you this morning!

DOTTYMO 11-23-2012 01:55 AM

Pm me and will try to get angie to give me the pattern or somebody in the class. I go to Angie's shop and classes. Her blog is interesting with many different patterns by her and quilters. Geoff's wall art is fantastic.

DOTTYMO 11-23-2012 05:39 AM

I have found another try 'Utah County Modern Quilt Group, . The tree is the last on Sunday November , think 11th.
She is saying pattern coming I have commented on where is patten wait and see

GrannieAnnie 11-23-2012 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by QuiltnNan (Post 5673107)
it's really cute. it looks like a quarter log cabin with half triangles added to the ends. and by the looks of the hands holding it, it is really large!


Another supersimple log cabin variation. Pull out some grid paper and start marking.

MTS 11-23-2012 07:30 AM

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All last night the numbers I wrote upthread were bothering me.
I knew there was something not quite right, but as I had eaten ~24 Zucchini Bread Cupcakes, I was incapable of actually thinking straight.

Now I realize that I had put 7 rounds, instead of 6, on the tree.
I've asked QuiltnNan to delete the two incorrect posts upthread.

The ramblings below takes some of the info from the previous posts.
It's not in any great order - I'm not writing a pattern - just pointing out some issues that may arise while constructing the block.

At least the pictures are uploading (I hope).
eta: not quite - I see the pics correctly placed while I'm writing, but after posting, they turn into invalid attachments. So now they're at the bottom of the post. Weird.

Here's the correct information for a 14" FINISHED block.



The inner tree block FINISHES at 8", with a 1" FINISHED inner white border, and a 2" FINISHED HST block border.
The logs are 1" FINISHED wide.

If you want to make it bigger - change the grid - just maintain the same proportions and it should all fit nicely together.
Well, in a perfect world. ;-)

Piecing normally, I would add the white HST via the Snowball method to the ends of the log strips BEFORE I added them to the block.

Since the logs are CUT 1.5", the white squares (for the Snowball) would also be cut 1.5" also.
Here's a link to a quick guide of the Snowball method if you aren't already familiar with it.:
http://www.straw.com/quilting/articles/snowball1.html
Take care when adding each snowball that the diagonal seam is sewn in the correct direction.
(When sewing the white square on the two strips from the same fabric, the diagonal seams will be in opposite directions.
Practice on some scraps - otherwise the background (white) won't be in the right position.)

When adding each log to the tree block, I would line up from the outside of the block - to make sure the HST point will be nice and neat and sharp and still pointy - and sew toward the center.
And then just keep going around.

If the inner tree block doesn't measures 8.5" UNFINSHED (for whatever reason), just adjust the white inner border so the block will end up at 10.5" UNFINSHED.

That way, the HST blocks (2" FINISHED) will fit nicely all the way around.
You will need 24 HST blocks for the border.

I prefer the cut big and trim down method.
I would cut 12 squares of the two fabrics at least 3" square.
Place one square of each color right sides together, draw a diagonal line down the center, sew 1/4" on each side of the line, and cut apart on the drawn line.
Open and press to the darker fabric.
Trim the block down to 2.5" UNFINISHED.

Sew two sets of 5 HST blocks each AND sew two sets of 7 HST blocks each,
making sure the blocks in each set are oriented the same way.

Attach a 5 block border to two opposite sides of the tree block (after the sashing has been added), taking care to match the color placement in the original picture.

Same for the top and bottom borders - 2 adjacent sides are white in and 2 are white out.



Start the tree with the square for the tree trunk (bottom right).
I think the easiest way would be to cut a 2.5" square of the brown trunk fabric, and snowball 3 sides of it with white squares (cut 1.5"), and trim away the excess.

I blew up the picture in the op and I can't quite see those seam lines - there are other ways to construct it - but I don't think it matters much.

Then you can just start adding the logs.
The way I drew it, thinking paper-piecing might an option, was to add a log on the left side of the trunk and then on top with fabric A, then left, top, with fabric B, and so on.

Ariane911 11-23-2012 09:58 AM

Amazing as always!!! You're such an asset to the quilting board!! Thank you MTS!

margecam52 11-23-2012 12:18 PM

The tips of the tree look to be 1/2 sq triangles with a small sashing strip added once the tree is made....but your rendition will work just as well.

MTS 11-23-2012 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by margecam52 (Post 5675005)
The tips of the tree look to be 1/2 sq triangles with a small sashing strip added once the tree is made....but your rendition will work just as well.



Originally Posted by MTS (Post 5674598)
The inner tree block FINISHES at 8", with a 1" FINISHED inner white border, and a 2" FINISHED HST block border.
.

Piecing normally, I would add the white HST via the Snowball method to the ends of the log strips BEFORE I added them to the block.

Yeah, I think it will work.

MartiMorga 11-23-2012 02:03 PM

That all looks easy enough, except the pockets for the advent gifts are missing. How about instead of HST try something similar to the pinapple technique. Have a square and sew a folded square on top when assembling?

dgeskine 11-23-2012 02:10 PM

I contacted JoyLyn who is a member of the quilt group and it seems that it is an exclusive pattern. She is trying to get permission to get a printed or digital pattern and a price for the same. If I hear anything more about it, I will send a pm or post here.

dgeskine 11-23-2012 02:15 PM

Looks like someone has figured it our for you, however; if I do hear back from JoyLyn I will still post.

craftymatt2 11-23-2012 02:34 PM

That is very nice, i have never seen it before, thank you for sharing

MTS 11-23-2012 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by MartiMorga (Post 5675111)
That all looks easy enough, except the pockets for the advent gifts are missing. How about instead of HST try something similar to the pinapple technique. Have a square and sew a folded square on top when assembling?

LOL!
Learn something new every day.
I had not a clue what an advent gift was, nor that there were pockets to put one in.

Ah, and that now explains the color placement of the HST blocks in the borders.

Yep, your solution would work perfectly.

That would require 24 squares of each color, instead of the 12 indicated above.
And I would cut them all at 2.5" exactly since there is no diagonal seam allowance to worry about.

Fold and press the red squares in half on the diagonal.
Place on a white square, and sew it with 1/8" seam allowance on the red sides.
(I think doing this extra step will just make handling the HST blocks easier.
I suppose you could pin the two pieces while sewing 2 blocks together, but it doesn't seem like that much more work to not have loose, flapping edges.)

Then you can just prepare the borders strips the same way as posted previously.

And now you really have to take care of the positioning of the blocks, because if a block is upside now, you can't put a gift in.

Which seems to be the whole purpose of the quilt, right?:)

caspharm 11-23-2012 07:25 PM

Thanks to MTS. This looks great.

DOTTYMO 11-24-2012 03:27 AM

The quilt in your picture, the pattern is copyright so no can get. Try the second one I found and see if you can find the pattern.

MTS 11-24-2012 04:31 AM


Originally Posted by DOTTYMO (Post 5675853)
The quilt in your picture, the pattern is copyright so no can get. Try the second one I found and see if you can find the pattern.

Dotty,

With all due respect, I think you totally misunderstand the nature of copyright protection and copyright infringement, especially regarding patterns, regardless of which side of the pond you are on.

Those are MY instructions.
Written by ME in MY words.
Measurements calculated by ME.
Drawings made by ME (via my licensed copies of various software).
Moi, moi and moi.

As I stated above, I had not a clue what an advent gift was, much less a quilt block made for one.
So it is highly improbable - like, impossible - that I would have a pattern in my possession to copy, or even to use as a reference.

You want to know the one infringement on this whole thread?
While Ariane probably doesn't know it, but re-posting the picture in the op, without permission from the photographer, was an infringement.
Now, I get that it's the interweb, and things are so easy to copy, and everyone thinks it's a free-for-all, but most just don't realize it.
And the mods here never do anything about that so I just shrug it off.
But using a simple link would have sufficed, and been the proper way to show the photo.
Next time. ;-)

To me, this whole thing was just a mathematical exercise.

If you notice in my somewhat lengthy posts, I usually NEVER, ever post photos by others, and the posts are always link-heavy - exactly because of that issue.

I even had a bit of trepidation when I marked-up your own pictures on the JP thread.
And I specifically mentioned how uncomfortable I was marking up the picture from Cheryl's .pdf instructions.
So I think I'm pretty consistent on the issue.

Nor do I ever pass off work as totally mine without giving credit, or at least a shout-out for inspiration, to the source - as best as I know it.
(unlike a good portion of posts in the Pictures forum - you don't find out until the 2nd page of replies that the quilt in question was, in fact, an EXACT copy of a published pattern. Makes me want to delete my - what a great design and color selection comment - since, duh, the poster didn't actually do any of that.)

But I digress.

I assure you no copyright was infringed upon by anything contained in my posts.

Nor, btw, did Angie even mention a pattern on her blog, just that it was a workshop.
You might suggest to her that she also slap her name and/or blog address on all her photos.
I'm sure the photo was copied and downloaded, not just from her blog, but from here as well, and it will be copied even more, and in those cases there will be NO way to even track it back to her - if she did have a pattern for sale.
Or just to give an "inspired by the Advent calendar on Angie's blog, blah, blah, blah."
I'm sure she would appreciate the shout-out.

Which I'm sure Ariane will do when she posts her finished block.:thumbup:

kaylfordsollimo 11-24-2012 07:51 AM

Very well stated. And good advice.


Originally Posted by MTS (Post 5675939)
Dotty,

With all due respect, I think you totally misunderstand the nature of copyright protection and copyright infringement, especially regarding patterns, regardless of which side of the pond you are on.

Those are MY instructions.
Written by ME in MY words.
Measurements calculated by ME.
Drawings made by ME (via my licensed copies of various software).
Moi, moi and moi.

As I stated above, I had not a clue what an advent gift was, much less a quilt block made for one.
So it is highly improbable - like, impossible - that I would have a pattern in my possession to copy, or even to use as a reference.

You want to know the one infringement on this whole thread?
While Ariane probably doesn't know it, but re-posting the picture in the op, without permission from the photographer, was an infringement.
Now, I get that it's the interweb, and things are so easy to copy, and everyone thinks it's a free-for-all, but most just don't realize it.
And the mods here never do anything about that so I just shrug it off.
But using a simple link would have sufficed, and been the proper way to show the photo.
Next time. ;-)

To me, this whole thing was just a mathematical exercise.

If you notice in my somewhat lengthy posts, I usually NEVER, ever post photos by others, and the posts are always link-heavy - exactly because of that issue.

I even had a bit of trepidation when I marked-up your own pictures on the JP thread.
And I specifically mentioned how uncomfortable I was marking up the picture from Cheryl's .pdf instructions.
So I think I'm pretty consistent on the issue.

Nor do I ever pass off work as totally mine without giving credit, or at least a shout-out for inspiration, to the source - as best as I know it.
(unlike a good portion of posts in the Pictures forum - you don't find out until the 2nd page of replies that the quilt in question was, in fact, an EXACT copy of a published pattern. Makes me want to delete my - what a great design and color selection comment - since, duh, the poster didn't actually do any of that.)

But I digress.

I assure you no copyright was infringed upon by anything contained in my posts.

Nor, btw, did Angie even mention a pattern on her blog, just that it was a workshop.
You might suggest to her that she also slap her name and/or blog address on all her photos.
I'm sure the photo was copied and downloaded, not just from her blog, but from here as well, and it will be copied even more, and in those cases there will be NO way to even track it back to her - if she did have a pattern for sale.
Or just to give an "inspired by the Advent calendar on Angie's blog, blah, blah, blah."
I'm sure she would appreciate the shout-out.

Which I'm sure Ariane will do when she posts her finished block.:thumbup:


angiequiltsinthepotteries 11-24-2012 11:13 AM

Hi, I am Angie, the owner of the photo in question... I have jumped through the hoops and had to join your group so that I could reply. In her defence, and I'm sure she doesn't need defending... What Dotty meant is that the pattern for the quilt has a copyright on it... which is what I had told her when she asked me for the instructions. She wasn't saying that the photo has copyright. I don't know who to give credit to for the pattern.
I made my quilt over 15 years ago using a pattern in a borrowed book, I have no idea what the book title is so I can't even share that info. You're on the right track with the instructions you invented but those pockets are 3 1/2" squares folded in half.
I get your drift about putting my info on my photos so that people can pop over to my blog... it's great idea but I don't know how to do it.... will find out!
Thanks for all the interest in my Advent Tree workshop posts.

Ariane911 11-24-2012 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by angiequiltsinthepotteries (Post 5676761)
Hi, I am Angie, the owner of the photo in question... I have jumped through the hoops and had to join your group so that I could reply. In her defence, and I'm sure she doesn't need defending... What Dotty meant is that the pattern for the quilt has a copyright on it... which is what I had told her when she asked me for the instructions. She wasn't saying that the photo has copyright. I don't know who to give credit to for the pattern.
I made my quilt over 15 years ago using a pattern in a borrowed book, I have no idea what the book title is so I can't even share that info. You're on the right track with the instructions you invented but those pockets are 3 1/2" squares folded in half.
I get your drift about putting my info on my photos so that people can pop over to my blog... it's great idea but I don't know how to do it.... will find out!
Thanks for all the interest in my Advent Tree workshop posts.


Sorry to have caused such commotion. Lesson learned, link only:-)

maryellen2u 11-24-2012 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by angiequiltsinthepotteries (Post 5676761)
Hi, I am Angie, the owner of the photo in question... I have jumped through the hoops and had to join your group so that I could reply. In her defence, and I'm sure she doesn't need defending... What Dotty meant is that the pattern for the quilt has a copyright on it... which is what I had told her when she asked me for the instructions. She wasn't saying that the photo has copyright. I don't know who to give credit to for the pattern.
I made my quilt over 15 years ago using a pattern in a borrowed book, I have no idea what the book title is so I can't even share that info. You're on the right track with the instructions you invented but those pockets are 3 1/2" squares folded in half.
I get your drift about putting my info on my photos so that people can pop over to my blog... it's great idea but I don't know how to do it.... will find out!
Thanks for all the interest in my Advent Tree workshop posts.

So Angie with all of our interest are you going to post a pattern we can buy, a tutorial, add to or subtract from MTS" directions or something in order for us interested folks to make this advent quilt square? Me personally, I would love to try it even without the pockets;all the better with the pockets. We could make this an international event! How about a quilting board class?!!

angiequiltsinthepotteries 11-24-2012 11:23 PM

Advent Quilt
 
[QUOTE=maryellen2u;5677545]So Angie with all of our interest are you going to post a pattern we can buy, a tutorial...

No, sorry I can't. It is not my pattern to share, sell or copy... I do not know the original designer details and so cannot give the correct credit so it's better that I don't.
As I said before, if I knew which book the pattern was taken from, I would tell you.

GrannieAnnie 11-25-2012 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by MTS (Post 5674598)
All last night the numbers I wrote upthread were bothering me.
I knew there was something not quite right, but as I had eaten ~24 Zucchini Bread Cupcakes, I was incapable of actually thinking straight.

Now I realize that I had put 7 rounds, instead of 6, on the tree.
I've asked QuiltnNan to delete the two incorrect posts upthread.

The ramblings below takes some of the info from the previous posts.
It's not in any great order - I'm not writing a pattern - just pointing out some issues that may arise while constructing the block.

At least the pictures are uploading (I hope).
eta: not quite - I see the pics correctly placed while I'm writing, but after posting, they turn into invalid attachments. So now they're at the bottom of the post. Weird.

Here's the correct information for a 14" FINISHED block.



The inner tree block FINISHES at 8", with a 1" FINISHED inner white border, and a 2" FINISHED HST block border.
The logs are 1" FINISHED wide.

If you want to make it bigger - change the grid - just maintain the same proportions and it should all fit nicely together.
Well, in a perfect world. ;-)

Piecing normally, I would add the white HST via the Snowball method to the ends of the log strips BEFORE I added them to the block.

Since the logs are CUT 1.5", the white squares (for the Snowball) would also be cut 1.5" also.
Here's a link to a quick guide of the Snowball method if you aren't already familiar with it.:
http://www.straw.com/quilting/articles/snowball1.html
Take care when adding each snowball that the diagonal seam is sewn in the correct direction.
(When sewing the white square on the two strips from the same fabric, the diagonal seams will be in opposite directions.
Practice on some scraps - otherwise the background (white) won't be in the right position.)

When adding each log to the tree block, I would line up from the outside of the block - to make sure the HST point will be nice and neat and sharp and still pointy - and sew toward the center.
And then just keep going around.

If the inner tree block doesn't measures 8.5" UNFINSHED (for whatever reason), just adjust the white inner border so the block will end up at 10.5" UNFINSHED.

That way, the HST blocks (2" FINISHED) will fit nicely all the way around.
You will need 24 HST blocks for the border.

I prefer the cut big and trim down method.
I would cut 12 squares of the two fabrics at least 3" square.
Place one square of each color right sides together, draw a diagonal line down the center, sew 1/4" on each side of the line, and cut apart on the drawn line.
Open and press to the darker fabric.
Trim the block down to 2.5" UNFINISHED.

Sew two sets of 5 HST blocks each AND sew two sets of 7 HST blocks each,
making sure the blocks in each set are oriented the same way.

Attach a 5 block border to two opposite sides of the tree block (after the sashing has been added), taking care to match the color placement in the original picture.

Same for the top and bottom borders - 2 adjacent sides are white in and 2 are white out.



Start the tree with the square for the tree trunk (bottom right).
I think the easiest way would be to cut a 2.5" square of the brown trunk fabric, and snowball 3 sides of it with white squares (cut 1.5"), and trim away the excess.

I blew up the picture in the op and I can't quite see those seam lines - there are other ways to construct it - but I don't think it matters much.

Then you can just start adding the logs.
The way I drew it, thinking paper-piecing might an option, was to add a log on the left side of the trunk and then on top with fabric A, then left, top, with fabric B, and so on.

beautiful rendition of the tree, but I got the impression that the red triangles were all flat side up making them pockets for the 24 tiny gifts or notes or whatever for advent.

Still, great drawing for the tree.

MTS 11-25-2012 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by GrannieAnnie (Post 5679795)
beautiful rendition of the tree, but I got the impression that the red triangles were all flat side up making them pockets for the 24 tiny gifts or notes or whatever for advent.

And that's why it's always helpful to read ALL the postings to an ongoing discussion prior to responding.
:):):)

GrannieAnnie 11-26-2012 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by MTS (Post 5679866)
And that's why it's always helpful to read ALL the postings to an ongoing discussion prior to responding.
:):):)

Sorry, but I read a post and then I reply. I'm not going to start reading every post before replying. Not now, not ever.

Each of you is more than welcome to read a thread all the way thru before replying is that's what makes you happy.

MTS 11-27-2012 04:50 AM


Originally Posted by angiequiltsinthepotteries (Post 5676761)
What Dotty meant is that the pattern for the quilt has a copyright on it... which is what I had told her when she asked me for the instructions. She wasn't saying that the photo has copyright. I don't know who to give credit to for the pattern.
I made my quilt over 15 years ago using a pattern in a borrowed book, I have no idea what the book title is so I can't even share that info.
I get your drift about putting my info on my photos so that people can pop over to my blog... it's great idea but I don't know how to do it.... will find out!

Hi Angie and welcome.

Sorry for the delay in responding.

Nope, Dotty doesn't need defending as she did nothing wrong.

First - the copyright relating to the photo.

When I made that comment upthread, I was referring to the picture used in the op, which was from your blog.
You might not know it, but YOU have a copyright on the photo since you took it
.
Now, either because people don't know or they don't care, that kind of copying happens all the time.
I'm positive in this case Ariane just didn't realize it, and I wouldn't even have bothered mentioning it if "copyright" hadn't been brought into the discussion.

I just shrug it off as since it's so prevalent, and a huge out-of-control, can't-put-it-back-in-the-box issue.
There is really no enforcement of it unless the copyright holder makes a stink about it.
And the ease with which it can be done gives the illusion that there is nothing wrong with it.

Also, since many people don't care about their own pictures being copied, it's harder to convince the others that, even outside the copyright issue, it's just a basic issue of respect of ownership.

I'm sure you noticed that many bloggers and websites, perhaps because they are more aware of the issue, are now marking their pics and drawings in different ways.
Some put the name of their website/blog discreetly at the bottom, some put a HUGE watermark though the whole picture.
Many sites/blogs are now blocking their photos from being pinned to Pinterest - I think I read somewhere that "blocking" is the third most used feature on the site.
I find that really interesting.

Anyway, it's your decision how far you want to go (or not go).
As to the how, any photo editing software will have the feature, or you can just add it to your picture with Paint or some similar software.
I don't know what you have or are using, so I can't get specific.

And your concern about the book copyright......when you taught your workshop, did you rewrite the instructions?
Or are you using a copy from the book?
Because that cat is already out of the bag. ;-)


You're on the right track with the instructions you invented but those pockets are 3 1/2" squares folded in half.
As for the size of the block, Ariane and I had already discussed this via PM.
I just guess-timated a starting width based on the photograph.
The 2" FINISHED border HST pockets I wrote upthread are correct because my directions include logs that are 1" FINISHED.

If Ariane wants a bigger block, then the log size has to change, but the proportions stay the same.
Meaning, the FINISHED size of the HST pocket blocks will always be twice the size of the FINISHED log width.
The sashing width and background white snowball squares will always be the same as the logs.

If you are using 3-1/2 cut squares (folded), then your logs are 1.5" FINISHED (2" cut).
Otherwise the math doesn't work and the square won't fit.

MTS 11-27-2012 04:52 AM

@Dotty-
This is one of the reasons why I've hesitated putting up those instructions for the JP.
While sending them to you is one thing, I just know I'm going to stumble across them on some other site at a later date, with no attribution
And that would really, really tick me off - even though there is no $$ involved.
So I'm still mulling over how to handle it while I'm working on it (in whatever spare time I have).
But I am working on it.

MTS 11-27-2012 04:59 AM


Originally Posted by Ariane911 (Post 5677276)
Sorry to have caused such commotion. Lesson learned, link only:-)

No commotion at all.
Live and learn.
It was a fun exercise.
I look forward to seeing your finished block.
Any questions, yell.

Ariane911 11-27-2012 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by MTS (Post 5682663)
Hi Angie and welcome.

Sorry for the delay in responding.

Nope, Dotty doesn't need defending as she did nothing wrong.

First - the copyright relating to the photo.

When I made that comment upthread, I was referring to the picture used in the op, which was from your blog.
You might not know it, but YOU have a copyright on the photo since you took it
.
Now, either because people don't know or they don't care, that kind of copying happens all the time.
I'm positive in this case Ariane just didn't realize it, and I wouldn't even have bothered mentioning it if "copyright" hadn't been brought into the discussion.

I just shrug it off as since it's so prevalent, and a huge out-of-control, can't-put-it-back-in-the-box issue.
There is really no enforcement of it unless the copyright holder makes a stink about it.
And the ease with which it can be done gives the illusion that there is nothing wrong with it.

Also, since many people don't care about their own pictures being copied, it's harder to convince the others that, even outside the copyright issue, it's just a basic issue of respect of ownership.

I'm sure you noticed that many bloggers and websites, perhaps because they are more aware of the issue, are now marking their pics and drawings in different ways.
Some put the name of their website/blog discreetly at the bottom, some put a HUGE watermark though the whole picture.
Many sites/blogs are now blocking their photos from being pinned to Pinterest - I think I read somewhere that "blocking" is the third most used feature on the site.
I find that really interesting.

Anyway, it's your decision how far you want to go (or not go).
As to the how, any photo editing software will have the feature, or you can just add it to your picture with Paint or some similar software.
I don't know what you have or are using, so I can't get specific.

And your concern about the book copyright......when you taught your workshop, did you rewrite the instructions?
Or are you using a copy from the book?
Because that cat is already out of the bag. ;-)



As for the size of the block, Ariane and I had already discussed this via PM.
I just guess-timated a starting width based on the photograph.
The 2" FINISHED border HST pockets I wrote upthread are correct because my directions include logs that are 1" FINISHED.

If Ariane wants a bigger block, then the log size has to change, but the proportions stay the same.
Meaning, the FINISHED size of the HST pocket blocks will always be twice the size of the FINISHED log width.
The sashing width and background white snowball squares will always be the same as the logs.

If you are using 3-1/2 cut squares (folded), then your logs are 1.5" FINISHED (2" cut).
Otherwise the math doesn't work and the square won't fit.


Yes, it is 2 1/2 inch pocket block!...I'm just about finished with the advent, using mts's calculations.


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