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rusty quilter 12-26-2010 05:05 AM

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I need to make this block, and know there must be a way to reduce the amount of triangles needed. Does anyone know a way to do this?

block needing adjusting
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carolaug 12-26-2010 05:10 AM

http://www.quiltinaday.com/freepattern/
click on the one that say homestead...that may give you a few good ideas.

DawnMarie 12-26-2010 06:39 AM

http://www.patchpieces.com/files/flyinggeese.pdf
This is a no waste method for flying geese. If you are able to use it, you won't have to cut any triangles for the 12 flying geese in your block.
There appears to be a total of 8 triangles in the N, W, S, and E positions on your block. You can combine them to make 4 triangles. If you do your math right, you could cut squares and simply cut them in half (I think you'll add 7/8" to the finished size).
The middle four triangles can be cut as a square.
If you do this, you'll only need to cut the 4 triangles in the corners. You could cut them as squares and cut the diagonal like described above.
When it comes to piecing, you will take the N Triangle, piece it to the NE Flying Geese section, and that to the E Triangle.
Then, Take a flying geese unit and piece it to the center square. On the other side of the square, put another flying geese unit.
Next, piece the last flying geese unit between the W and S triangles.
Last, stitch these three units together. It'll be like piecing on point.
Did I confuse you?

amma 12-26-2010 06:44 AM

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This is what I came up with :D:D:D

Tippy 12-26-2010 07:24 AM

You can do it the way shown above and have less triangles but it would appear that you will be doing the Y seams that some dread so much?

raptureready 12-26-2010 07:54 AM

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You can do a 3D goose with no triangles at all and only one seam. It uses a lot more fabric but it sure is easy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78Mu0C_QL8Y&NR=1
Go to this site and Ricky Tims will teach you how to do it.
Here's one I did with this method

Not one triangle was used in making this quilt but all the colors are flying geese,
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Julie in NM 12-26-2010 07:56 AM

My vote is no waste flyine geese. Do it all the time..fast. Four blocks out of two fabs!!

rusty quilter 12-26-2010 08:46 AM

Actually, that makes sense. I also used the Eleanor Burns flying geese video..will give it a try this week. Thanks!

Tinabodina 12-26-2010 08:48 AM

Thanks for the info everyone. Big help

MTS 12-26-2010 09:45 AM

Have you tried the snowball method? Or even paper-piecing the flying geese? You wouldn't have to even cut a triangle for that block (except for corners).



@raptureready,

Brights and B&W - how could it not be fabulous!

I love your layout. I think that just became my new go-to baby quilt. :thumbup:

Was it a pattern?

kristen0112 12-26-2010 09:48 AM

What aboutnmaking it paper pieced?

Cyn 12-26-2010 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by raptureready
You can do a 3D goose with no triangles at all and only one seam. It uses a lot more fabric but it sure is easy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78Mu0C_QL8Y&NR=1
Go to this site and Ricky Tims will teach you how to do it.
Here's one I did with this method

Awesome!

JUNEC 12-26-2010 11:22 AM

I would go with the no waste flying geese as well

amma 12-26-2010 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by Tippy
You can do it the way shown above and have less triangles but it would appear that you will be doing the Y seams that some dread so much?

no Y seam... you start with the square in the corner, add the two green triangles to each side and then work your way to the center block. Then do the next section starting with the square and working inwards, and sew this section to the center block.

The two side pieces are sewn separately the same way, and then add the large triangles to them. Sew these 3 separate pieces together.

Basically you are piecing it in thirds :wink:

derylee 12-27-2010 03:17 AM

You could cheat and use a solid white material, then sew the green triangles onto it.

NinaK 12-27-2010 05:13 AM

Try this site for One Seam Flying Geese:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78Mu0C_QL8Y&NR=1

Quiltbeagle 12-27-2010 07:03 AM

Here's another. 3 squares make 2 flying geese with cutting chart for different sizes.

http://members.shaw.ca/beverlysquiltingpage/ffg.htm

Quiltbeagle 12-27-2010 07:04 AM

oops...sorry, 5 squares. Now going to the kitchen to get my coffee.

JAGSD 12-27-2010 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by Tippy
You can do it the way shown above and have less triangles but it would appear that you will be doing the Y seams that some dread so much?

"If" paperpiecing this could be done without y-seams. Do in 3 sections and then sew 3 sections together which would be the bigger triangle each as one section and then the middle piece being 2 squares and section with flying geese.

MarthaT 12-27-2010 09:34 AM

My favorite way to make flying geese is to cut rectangles the size of the finished flying geese piece and 2 squares equal to the width of the rectangle. Place a square at each end of the rectangle and sew across the diagonal of the square. Trim to a 1/4 in. seam allowance and press as usual. I'm more accurate this way than cutting a bunch of triangles and don't feel I waste that much fabric. If you piece the block on the diagonal you can use a square in the middle and larger triangles on the sides instead of two.

pegquilter8 12-27-2010 09:52 AM

How about 1/2 square triangles for the geese?

danade 12-27-2010 10:56 AM

Very beautiful b/w and multicolor quilt!

Dana

patriciaponder 12-27-2010 12:03 PM

I would paper piece and not have any bias edges to be concerned with matching, stretching, etc. Quilter's Cache has wonderful free patterns and I've used several of her patterns.

Donna Hall 12-27-2010 12:20 PM

Try making the flying geese the way Billie Lauder shows in her Quick Quilt Tricks book. It is method #2 in the book using squares.

auntmag 12-27-2010 12:31 PM

My suggestion as well.

Originally Posted by DawnMarie
http://www.patchpieces.com/files/flyinggeese.pdf
This is a no waste method for flying geese. If you are able to use it, you won't have to cut any triangles for the 12 flying geese in your block.
There appears to be a total of 8 triangles in the N, W, S, and E positions on your block. You can combine them to make 4 triangles. If you do your math right, you could cut squares and simply cut them in half (I think you'll add 7/8" to the finished size).
The middle four triangles can be cut as a square.
If you do this, you'll only need to cut the 4 triangles in the corners. You could cut them as squares and cut the diagonal like described above.
When it comes to piecing, you will take the N Triangle, piece it to the NE Flying Geese section, and that to the E Triangle.
Then, Take a flying geese unit and piece it to the center square. On the other side of the square, put another flying geese unit.
Next, piece the last flying geese unit between the W and S triangles.
Last, stitch these three units together. It'll be like piecing on point.
Did I confuse you?


susan1948 12-27-2010 01:22 PM

If you start with the outside squares, then do the Geese, then add the large triangles to two geese (the ones on the opposite sides) you wouldn't have any "Y" seams. I usually do paper piecing for my geese.
Susan

PS, how do some of you get your name in large letters on this blog at the bottom of your messages, Judy is one example

jme 12-27-2010 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by raptureready
You can do a 3D goose with no triangles at all and only one seam. It uses a lot more fabric but it sure is easy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78Mu0C_QL8Y&NR=1
Go to this site and Ricky Tims will teach you how to do it.
Here's one I did with this method

I love your quilt, it's so pretty and colorful!!!

Joanie2 12-27-2010 05:26 PM

I'd definitely go with Eleanor Burns's flying geese ruler. No waste; no points lost and so much easier and faster than triangles.

galvestonangel 12-27-2010 05:50 PM

I like Ricky Tims way of doing the flying geese, one seam. Is that the same as the no waste one?

Bren49 12-27-2010 05:58 PM

I would look on youtube.com and search for the one seam flying geese tutorial, It's awesome! It's with Alex Anderson and Ricky Tims.

Annz 12-27-2010 06:15 PM

Sorry I don't but the block looks great.

seasaw2mch 12-27-2010 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by Tippy
You can do it the way shown above and have less triangles but it would appear that you will be doing the Y seams that some dread so much?

no Tippy this is a great way to do it and not have the "Y" seams. Just sew the middle cross section separate from the other sides, it will look like 2 triangles with a short side of the cross, then you can sew the 2 side onto the center cross section. no "Y" seams doing it that way.

nonnie60 12-27-2010 07:15 PM

I tried Ricky Tims method also...love it. I even recalculated and made small sizes. This is such a time saver. Watch the UTube.

desertrose 12-27-2010 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by raptureready
You can do a 3D goose with no triangles at all and only one seam. It uses a lot more fabric but it sure is easy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78Mu0C_QL8Y&NR=1
Go to this site and Ricky Tims will teach you how to do it.
Here's one I did with this method



Thank You for sharing this site what a great comcept!!!!

Farm Quilter 12-28-2010 02:23 PM

I make flying geese by making a square in a square (using the square in a square ruler, makes it so easy) and cutting them in half. Eliminates the need to make triangles completely.

Nolee 12-28-2010 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by Farm Quilter
I make flying geese by making a square in a square (using the square in a square ruler, makes it so easy) and cutting them in half. Eliminates the need to make triangles completely.

Is that the ruler that is almost $30? If I am off on that price, could you send a link to where we'd get one?

rusty quilter 01-07-2011 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by seasaw2mch

Originally Posted by Tippy
You can do it the way shown above and have less triangles but it would appear that you will be doing the Y seams that some dread so much?

no Tippy this is a great way to do it and not have the "Y" seams. Just sew the middle cross section separate from the other sides, it will look like 2 triangles with a short side of the cross, then you can sew the 2 side onto the center cross section. no "Y" seams doing it that way.

I will give it a try. Right now I am working on the border first. (A new thing for me). I am piecing it to make chevrons and using up my scrap box at the same time. Since it is a scrap quit--I figured it was time to stretch a little for a different kind of border. :-P

susan1948 01-16-2011 02:00 PM

Judy,
How do you get your name on the bottom of your messages?
Is it an attached picture or something?

JAGSD 01-16-2011 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by susan1948
Judy,
How do you get your name on the bottom of your messages?
Is it an attached picture or something?

I am sorry I do not remember and can not find the paper that I printed off on how to. Maybe do a search, or ask the question on the Main section. I know I had gotten the information from this board to do it though.
I'll keep looking but I think it (the paper) got thrown away.
Sorry..


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