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GrannieAnnie 04-27-2011 09:34 AM

Would a needle with a bigger eye keep the thread from "rubbing" and then breaking? Maybe a needle meant for metalics?

kraftykimberly 04-27-2011 09:43 AM

Ditto on the wonder under, works great for me.

penski 04-27-2011 09:52 AM

i had a problem like that with heat and bond then i switched to steam a seam and love it and have had no problem

with heat and bond i had to stop and clean off my needle with alchohol and sew a bit then clean it again

starshine 04-27-2011 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by Traditional
Try using a top stitch needle or sharp needle.
Even if you have changed your needle sometimes you will get a bad one. (60% of needles are rejected ) and need to change again.
Good Luck.

I was just thinking that you could check to make sure you aren't using a ball point needle instead of a regular.

Ripped on Scotch 04-27-2011 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by carhop
I have used waxpaper to clean my iron off, you heat the iron scrunch the paper up and rub the bottom it will take gunk off

I use a dryer sheet.... works just as well.

MadQuilter 04-27-2011 10:15 AM

I use steam-a-seam 2 (doing a Kill Sunbonnet Sue myself at the moment).

molly oldham 04-27-2011 11:13 AM

I really love heat & bond but i'm having the exact same problem. I've never had a problem with wonder under but don't like it as well as h&b

quilter2theend 04-27-2011 11:35 AM

I had that problem and I ended up having to hand stitch using a satin stitch. I'm going to take a look at the website offered for future reference. Hope all works out OK.

TXyankee 04-27-2011 11:39 AM

I iron the piece again when that happens. Sometimes the sticky stuff gets overlapped when I press it to attach it the first time, usually if the fusible has been sitting around for a while before I use it. I've learned to check if the glue part is coming off the paper when I first iron it on. Does that make sense?

g-maquilts 04-27-2011 12:33 PM

Have you tried a piece of tear away under you fabric to kind of clean the needle as it goes thru the heat and bond?
Just a thought

mosquitosewgirl 04-27-2011 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by donnajean
I've never had a problem with Steam & Seam 2 & I machine applique all my quilts.

Ditto

Gerbie 04-27-2011 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by jenny112058
Working on one now that is giving me a fit. Hope someone can help! I’m doing a Sunbonnet Sue. I used Heat n Bond Lite; when I go to sew them the thread breaks or needle clogs with the glue from Heat n Bond or get skipped stitches. I have used 4 different machines and tried copy paper and/or wax paper and I still get thread breaks or needle clogs with the glue from Heat n Bond or get skipped stitches. Help please, anyone know what I can do to solve this problem? Thanks!!!!

I have used Steam-A-Seam and it works very well. I have just finished using it on a very large group of applique objects on a quilt I am working on, then used a zig zag stitch all around the edges after it was ironed down, and did not have a bit of trouble with gumming up the needle. You would need to follow directions on it, because you do not iron it until you are ready to the permanent position. On the Sun Bonnet Sue, you would just cut the outline or trace it on the steam a seam paper then cut it out and peel the paper off and hand press it on to your SBS. You can then move SBS anywhere you need to until you find your permanent position. Then place her on that spot and press with a hot iron. BUT be sure that is exactly where you want it before you use the iron, as it will not come up.

Gerbie 04-27-2011 01:01 PM

Sorry this is a double post intended to hit edit and add to the bottom, instead I hit update. But check out the last of this post and find where I purchased mine.


Originally Posted by jenny112058
Working on one now that is giving me a fit. Hope someone can help! I’m doing a Sunbonnet Sue. I used Heat n Bond Lite; when I go to sew them the thread breaks or needle clogs with the glue from Heat n Bond or get skipped stitches. I have used 4 different machines and tried copy paper and/or wax paper and I still get thread breaks or needle clogs with the glue from Heat n Bond or get skipped stitches. Help please, anyone know what I can do to solve this problem? Thanks!!!!

I have used Steam-A-Seam and it works very well. I have just finished using it on a very large group of applique objects on a quilt I am working on, then used a zig zag stitch all around the edges after it was ironed down, and did not have a bit of trouble with gumming up the needle. You would need to follow directions on it, because you do not iron it until you are ready to the permanent position. On the Sun Bonnet Sue, you would just cut the outline or trace it on the steam a seam paper then cut it out and peel the paper off and hand press it on to your SBS. You can then move SBS anywhere you need to until you find your permanent position. Then place her on that spot and press with a hot iron. BUT be sure that is exactly where you want it before you use the iron, as it will not come up.
I bought some at Hobby Lobby and also order some when they were out of stock at the time I needed it.

Somerset Val 04-27-2011 01:15 PM

Isn't Heat and Bond the one that you're not supposed to stitch on?

jayelee 04-27-2011 02:04 PM

I use Heat n Bond lite all of the time with no problems are you sure it is not a new sew heat n bond

Yooper32 04-27-2011 02:14 PM

Are you sure you had the Heat and bond LITE? The first time I used it, it was the no-sew and I had such a mess it wasn't even funny, took me forever to get it sewn as the needle gunked up ever stitch or two. Lesson learned, always check and make sure it is the Lite version and you will have no problems. Maybe somehow a piece of the no-sew got into your lite.

Gramily 04-27-2011 04:07 PM

Try some silicon on the needle and the spool of thread.

memereof8 04-27-2011 04:19 PM

Ha, Ha, You'll now be able to guess my age. I use wax paper to wrap my sandwiches in. Better then using plastic lunch bags.

BarbZ 04-27-2011 06:48 PM

you must usess the lite heat and bond and it also says on the packaging SEWABLE. I learned the hard way and had to stop every couple of inches on a long wallhanging and clean my needle with alchol. Good luck

applique 04-28-2011 03:31 AM


Originally Posted by the casual quilter
I pretty much use Wonder Under all the time for fusible. I am wondering if you pressed your piece a little more (maybe in just one area to try this) if the extra heat would dissipate some of the glue and help with the stitching. If you try this, be sure to let it cool before you stitch.

I am certainly no expert, but it sounds like there might be a lot of fusible material on the product you are using.

I agree. I would try a larger needle and reheat the pieces. The extra glue should go into the background fabric more and hopefully stick more to the fabric than the needle. Protect the top from excessive heat with parchment paper or a pressing cloth.

applique 04-28-2011 03:45 AM

[quote=Weenween]

Originally Posted by jenny112058
Working on one now that is giving me a fit. Hope someone can help! I’m doing a Sunbonnet Sue. I used Heat n Bond Lite; when I go to sew them the thread breaks or needle clogs with the glue from Heat n Bond or get skipped stitches. I have used 4 different machines and tried copy paper and/or wax paper and I still get thread breaks or needle clogs with the glue from Heat n Bond or get skipped stitches. Help please, anyone know what I can do to solve this problem? Thanks!!!!
I am like you I went into fits from now on I just pin and pin alot a bit more work in the beginning but well worth the trouble in the end.]

When I do applique pieces which will be hand quilted through, I either use Elmer's washable school glue or Misty Fuse with parchment as a release paper.

applique 04-28-2011 03:50 AM


Originally Posted by stitchofclass2
After reading the suggestions a thought occurred to me. Do you know what the thread wax is? It comes in a round shape and you pull your thread through it before sewing (hand sewing) and it keeps the thread from knotting. Wal Mart carries it. I wonder if you pulled your thread through it (using a needle) somewhere at the top of the machine and then thread as per your machine. I wonder if this would help the thread slide through the glue. Have you tried a heavier thread and a larger needle? I know they leave holes but you could press them out. Good luck.

Let us know what you do to fix this. Thanks. Yolanda Wood River

The holes left by a larger needle or when stitches are removed (especially from batiks) can be hidden with some extra fabric softener in the was and a very light brushing. The fabric softener helps fluff up the fibers and the light (very light) brushing helps pull them back into place. I took out an entire border done on batik fabric to redo it.

jenny112058 04-28-2011 09:19 AM

Thanks so much for everyone's help!!! It is so great to have people really help when in need.....thanks!

I am trying different suggestions and will update you when I find one that works best for me!

cowpie2 04-28-2011 11:11 AM

I actually recently tried using just plain old Elmers Glue. It worked great with freezer paper underneath to stabelize. You only need a very very tiny amount of glue and then heat set with your iron. I had no problems with my cheap sewing machine.

sewgarden 04-28-2011 02:01 PM

I love Flrianis Appli-Kay wonder

My time 04-28-2011 04:10 PM

This works? Who knew!

BizyStitches 04-28-2011 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by jenny112058
Working on one now that is giving me a fit. Hope someone can help! I’m doing a Sunbonnet Sue. I used Heat n Bond Lite; when I go to sew them the thread breaks or needle clogs with the glue from Heat n Bond or get skipped stitches. I have used 4 different machines and tried copy paper and/or wax paper and I still get thread breaks or needle clogs with the glue from Heat n Bond or get skipped stitches. Help please, anyone know what I can do to solve this problem? Thanks!!!!

I'm no expert by any means, but some bonding can be sewn and some can't and it will say on the package. Other than that I don't know, good luck.

busygranny 05-02-2011 05:09 PM

There are different types of fusible -some are lightweight and some are heavier. I did use the heavy weight once and it gummed up my machine--was a mess. Now I always use the lightest weight I can buy and no problems.

nativetexan 05-02-2011 05:19 PM

you're sure it was the lite? you may end up sewing them on by hand. do a blanket stitch if you can.

jenny112058 05-09-2011 08:58 PM

To all my quilting friends and their wish advice...I did try several suggestions provided by great quilters like you that gave me the best advice of all time! I bought Sewer's Aid and it did the best job of sewing with Heat Bond. Sewer's Aid is now my liquid gold! Thanks to all for the great advice given! You guys ROCK, thank you for all your help!!!

Jenny

Janice Thompson 05-28-2011 12:56 PM

I'VE HAD THAT PROBLEM. SO, I HAND APPLIQUED THE BEARS ONTO THE BLOCKS. I WAS TOLD THAT THE FRICTION OF THE SEWING MACHINE NEEDLE HEATED UP THE GLUE AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

MelodyWB 05-28-2011 01:19 PM

Steam a Seam 2..use it all the time..no problem!

MelodyWB 05-28-2011 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by cowpie2
I actually recently tried using just plain old Elmers Glue. It worked great with freezer paper underneath to stabelize. You only need a very very tiny amount of glue and then heat set with your iron. I had no problems with my cheap sewing machine.

Elmer's has a spray clue now..it's a miracle..love..love..love it..I use it to applique and baste..and even better..it's cheap..compared to all the basting sprays out there.


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