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toogie 11-06-2021 07:29 AM

Help please!
 
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I need help! I am making a Dresden block quilt but I want to alternate with a Triple Irish Chain. I have never made either one so HELP! -lol- I have my Dresden plates made but not appliqued on my square yet. My Plates measure about 17 inches not on white square yet.Can someone with the quilt program or math knowledge, draw me up a Triple Irish chain to match ?
I looked at quilterscashe.com and there is one there that measures 21 inch. However, their white square ( where my Dresden would have to go) is way too small (8in) since my Dresden is 17 inches. I know I would have to add on those sashing and corner squares so that would have to be figured in to my DP block.
I usually can figure but I thought those with the program could figure a lot faster. I am getting a headache 😩
Here are the blocks I’m trying to make.

Macybaby 11-06-2021 07:52 AM

If you want to keep the same number of squares that make up the block, the large white is equal to a 5x5 unit. Now, you can make the block so that the dresden overlaps the seams and takes up more of the "white" area, or that it stays within the large white block. In that case, those five across would need to measure at least 17", and 17/5 =3.4". So you could round up to 3.5" and then cut each square at 4" and sew together. The large white will be 3.5" x 5, or 17.5" finished cut 18".

This is going to make each "block" 24.5" square, so you might only have "room" for four blocks by five blocks, and that isn't going to make for much of a chain pattern. Maybe save those dresdens for another quilt, and make smaller ones to use with the Irish Chain pattern.

However if you have one Dresden and you want to use this idea for a medallion style quilt, I think that would look really neat.


toogie 11-06-2021 08:03 AM

If I cut my DPlate background sq @ 22.5 , finish at 22 inches and add my little corners and sides @ 2.5, finish at 2.25 each, equals 4.5, that would make my DP block finish at 26.5 (22+2.25+2.25=26.5)

Then I have to have an uneven number of square rows so white would go in center to match my DP block.

if I cut all squares at 2.5 in
11 x 2 (taking away seam allowances)=22
2 on each outer edge top/bottom would be 2.25 each=4.5

so 22+2.25+2.25=26.5


is this correct?

toogie 11-06-2021 08:45 AM

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Would this work?

toogie 11-06-2021 09:06 AM

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I tried to edit and take above drawing out but didn’t work
the dots would be same color throughout. I added more white blocks to colored squares too and increased white sash on DP making it 14.5

toogie 11-06-2021 09:10 AM

Macybaby I can’t make my Dresden white square that small because my Dresden is really a little over 17 inches and I don’t want to cut off my points on plate. Would last drawing work , do you think?

sewingpup 11-06-2021 10:17 AM

ummm....as the Dresden blocks will be so big.....could you just alternate them with a different pieced block? or maybe just put all the Dresden's in the center with a border around? I think I would play a bit with these ideas. Actually, I like the idea of maybe putting sashing around the Dresden blocks and letting the Dresden blocks be the star of the show. They will be lovely.

sewingpup 11-06-2021 10:19 AM

oh. Your original Irish chain Idea with be lovely with a smaller block. Maybe one that is embroidered, or appliqued, or maybe in a lovely focus fabric or lovely panel cut apart. I made a cute quilt once of a flower panel where the flowers were cut apart and then placed alternately with pieced blocks.

toogie 11-06-2021 10:35 AM

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I should have made myself more clear. I did say I’ve never made a Dresden quilt, but I am already sewing my Dresden blocks using the full 8 in Dresden ruler so my Dresden’s are large. The Dresden itself is over 17 in across. This is just placed on a queen below in picture. I realize I have to make more for a queen or King.

toogie 11-06-2021 10:49 AM

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This is what I’m thinking but after I colored in, I think I may take out another row of colors, all around, to give more white and so the colored squares don’t overpower the Dresden.
I got carried away with coloring Dresden. Mine has 20 blades-lol

platyhiker 11-06-2021 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by toogie (Post 8517997)
This is what I’m thinking but after I colored in, I think I may take out another row of colors, all around, to give more white and so the colored squares don’t overpower the Dresden.
I got carried away with coloring Dresden. Mine has 20 blades-lol

For fun, I played with your idea of taking out a row on each side of the diagonals, to see how it looks. For my tastes, the center area still looked like too big of a mass of colored squares, so I made every other diagonal use the background fabric. With background fabric between the colorful diagonals, you can really *see* the diagonals, rather than focusing on a large mass forming a rough square where the diagonals all cross.
https://www.quiltingboard.com/attach...6240115-q1.jpg

toogie 11-06-2021 05:01 PM

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Well, this wasn't fun platyhiker
I wish I could write out like you, because pictures are taken at angles, that I can't match up. I wanted to see how multi blocks would join up.

toogie 11-06-2021 06:01 PM

White out
not write out, post above
stupid Smart phone

platyhiker 11-06-2021 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by toogie (Post 8518041)
Well, this wasn't fun platyhiker
I wish I could white out like you, because pictures are taken at angles, that I can't match up. I wanted to see how multi blocks would join up.

I use Microsoft Paint for playing around with pictures. One of the tricks to whiting out is using the Color Picker tool (it looks like an eye dropper and is to the right of the Eraser) to sample a back ground color, and then click Edit colors button (to the right of the colors) and then click Add to Custom colors; now you can use the new color for both box outlines and fills.

I played around and figured out how to square up an image. Your image needed to be rotated a bit counter clockwise.
1) Copy the image into a fresh file
2) Flip the vertical on the image (an option under Rotate)
3) Click on Resize and then set a vertical skew (I had to try a few times - I think I ended up with a 2 degree skew looking good.)
(Optional: You can now flip the vertical again to get things back with same top-bottom orientation as the original; I didn't bother with this image)
4) Copy a rectangular sample and start playing with it

Here's what I ended up with:
https://www.quiltingboard.com/attach...1&d=1636258277
P.S. If you have an image that needs clockwise rotation, just skip step 2.

PurplePansies 11-07-2021 01:42 AM

My two cents? Make two separate quilts. The image that platyhiker posted looks way too busy to me.

SusieQOH 11-07-2021 06:57 AM

I agree.
Maybe a single Irish chain if you really want one?

toogie 11-07-2021 08:13 AM

Something happened late yesterday that discouraged me. You know when you get to a point you just wanna throw it all. I had my iron on cotton setting and went to press my seams for the squares. Some fabric I had been uncertain of content shrunk in from the edges, looked sorta like an apple core template. So, I started ripping the blades off my Dresdens to take non 100% cottons out. IF I don’t just burn the whole mess ( and I know I won’t, it’s a new day-lol) I may make runners out of the 8 Dresden. That is IF I can find enough different Christmas fabrics that ARE 100% cotton.

Why didn’t I catch it on the Dresden, you say?
I told you hubby helps hold my rulers from slipping while I cut.
Now he wants to set and press seams.😳
I was hesitant a lot, so I set the iron to a lower setting concerned that he may leave it on the fabric too long and scorch it. Maybe I should have left the iron on my usual setting and I’d have discovered sooner.


bearisgray 11-07-2021 08:54 AM

One does learn as one goes.

Because I have had some "surprises" in the past about shrinking, bleeding, and fiber content, I am "a bit" OCD before I get around to actually cutting fabrics.

I do burn tests on fabrics i do not recognize. Some rayons still fake me out.
Soak in hot water, then wash and dry gently.

But - some have said they have never had any problems whatsoever using unwashed fabric.

I have. I have decided it is easier to do prep work ahead of time - even though it sometimes dampens my enthusiasm a lot - than to deal with a mess later. That did not entertain me.


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