HST method
 

I am sure this has already been addressed many times but I can not seem to find it ----------I want to make hst using the method where you sew all four sides of square the cut on diagonals. I need them 4.5 in unfinished. Can anyone give the correct size of square to use. I need to make lots and this seems the fastest. I can't use my triangulations right now as no printer ink and no $$ to get any. Thank you for any help. Happy quilting.

Try 11" and trim to size.

This should help

http://whipup.net/2011/03/17/guest-b...are-triangles/

this would be seams from corner to corner on the diagonals. Then cut on the center across and up and down resulting in 8 hst's

It's a fast method, but you wind up with all bias edges, so handle them gently!

Starch,starch, starch
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Thank you. I knew one of you wonderful quilters would be able to help. Starting a wedding quilt for my last DS to get married, they want a scrappy similar to jewel box and want to get going on all the HST's.

Thanks for the link.

Thanks for the chart. I Pin those kinds of tips to my Pinterest Quilting Tips board.

Wait a minute that method leaves you with bias edges.
The best way to make 8 at a time is Eleanor Burns way. For 4 1/2 in HSTs use two squares 10 in. Draw and x and sew 1 /4 in on both sides. Cut block in half both ways then on lines. No bias edges but you will need to square up.
Her triangle square up ruler is a must have and you only make one cut to square up. Fast and accurate.
For 2 1/2 in use 6 in squares, 3 1/2 use 8 in.

I find the grid method the quickest and easiest way to sew LOTS of HST. The math is easy to remember as I make my grid squares 1" larger (as opposed to the 7/8 usually recommended) then the size of my unfinished HST then trim them down. So for 4.5" HST you make your grid 5.5" squares. You can get a bunch of HST made quickly with no bias edges and you don't need any special rulers. I have made loads of quilts with HST using this method.
http://www.patchwork-and-quilting.co...triangles.html

I have this tool and it makes 8 hsts at a time. http://www.ct-publishing.com/pdfs/20182.pdf No bias edges.

I'll piggy back on this discussion - I recently saw a video or photos on how to make many HST's but maneuvering material in weird ways (like the bias binding method of cutting on diagonal, restitching, etc.) If any one has seen that I'd love to have the link to it. It was, again, a way to make many HSTs from the same two pieces of fabric.

I am not affiliated but I have to put a shout out to Triangulations. It has every size of hst known to man. You just pick a size, print on doodle pads and you will get sheets of hst to paper piece very quickly and right on the money. You end up doing 12 - 24 at a time. This is really not paper piecing, but the paper makes it easy to sew on the lines. I just made 5,000 hst and I used various ways, Triangulations won out in accuracy and speed.
Judi

I think you might be thinking of the grid method? Here's one link:
http://www.patchwork-and-quilting.co...triangles.html

thanks, paper princess - I currently use triangulations and love it, but this method was one without paper to guide you in the stitching and cutting - and I wanted to try it to see how I liked it. Somebody else has to have seen it, co I'll keep looking.

It may have been my post showing a link to a blog. But soon after, the blog deleted the tutorial. It was called "2 Squares, 3 Seams = 32 HSTs. If you P.M. me, I can email a copy I saved in Word. I already sent a copy to the OP.

Sharon Schamber uses this method. I believe she has a Youtube tut on how to make them.

I have triangulations which I love. My problem is no ink to print and no money in budget to buy a new cartridge for awhile, so trying to use different method for now.

Love the EB method! The ruler is a great tool too, but it can be done without if you do not own one. I also like the method where you add the squares and get four. I'd rather take time to do less in x amount of time than deal with all the bias edges.

Best wishes on getting the quilt done quickly. They will love it!!

The last time I did a Jewel Box-altho it was scrappy-I used the triangles on a roll.......the fastest way to use various sizes of fabric and the fact that one has to tear away the paper after is really not an extra time waster......If you sew the seams at 1.5 that paper just comes right off...Great thing to do while watching your fav on TV at the end of a day..........

Rose Marie has the better answer to HST with no bias edges, but I don't need a special ruler to square up. Somewhere I saw a tutorial in which the two large pieces of fabric are laid out RST. A grid is drawn and sewn in the right sizes. Then all you have to do is cut the whole thing apart and you have gazillions of HST. Maybe someone can find that? ? ?

Oops! I must have missed a page! I see several posts have the link to making the grid and sewing up many HST at once.

If you want to make the HST with the bias edges, I've been told just starch the heck out of them and you will have less trouble.

I tried this method and was very disappointed. The squares were different sizes and I would have to cut them down alot to get them the same size. I ended up tearing them apart and using them as scraps. Do one of the other methods.

4.5 unfinished, would mean that the diagonal cut across the sewn square would have to be 9 inches. Add another inch for the seams. That leaves you with a square that is at least 10" diagonally. The diagonal measurement of a square is 1.4 times the side of the square. That means the original square would be at minimum 7.25" square. Personally, I'd start with at least 8" squares of fabric.

Wow!!! I am impressed with this tutorial, and I bookmarked this site. Excellent information. Thank you.

I've found that if I heavily starch the squares after the sides are sewn together, I don't have a problem with the bias edges. I buy the liquid starch and mix it half and half with water and put it in a spray bottle. I now love HSTs!

ontheriver, the method you have discribed would then give you HTSs with the edges on the cross of the fabric, which will have the tendancy to stretch when sewing unless of course you are prepared to starch the diggens out of it before you start. I usually use a square about 3/4" more than the size I want, put two pieces rsf and stitch 1/4" either side of a marked diagonal, then cut on the marked diagonal and trim to size, this method only gives you two hts but it puts your outer edge on the straight grain.

I heard that you can take your triangulations disk to Office Depot and they will print out what you need.. I don't think they charge more than copy price..