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Carol W 06-20-2010 04:30 AM

PatriceJ

If they say anything different, I'll post it.

Hummm...housework? I'd rather quilt!!! LOL (Though I can't stand a dirty house!!!) :)

sunflower sue 06-20-2010 06:40 AM

Thanks for the info !! Guess our machines are like cars, need to oil them like changing the oil in the car. I better check my manual too !

Rebecca VLQ 06-20-2010 06:49 AM

My Brother is humming along now, he sure needed some oil! :D

Thanks for posting!

Lostn51 06-20-2010 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by fleurdelisquilts.com
My husband is a sewing machine mechanic who worked in the sewing industry for 25 years. Trust me, every machine needs to be cleaned and oiled on a regular basis. A one inch wide, soft, natural bristle paintbrush will do the trick of removing the dust and grime. Start at the top of the bar that holds the needle and work your way down into the area where the bobbin is. Dust every place where the brush will fit--be gentle. Now move the needle bar up and down slowly, oiling any parts that move that you can reach. Run the machine slowly then add a few drops of oil in the bobbin area. You're ready to go as soon as you sew off on a scrap. I like to use a light colored scrap so I can see the oil when I start and make sure all the extra has run out.

You should take it in to have it professionally cleaned and oiled about once every year or so. These guys get really deep into the machine, clean it, oil it, and time it. So, when you get it back, it will run like a dream. Ask your mechanic to show you the best way to clean and oil your particular machine.

One last thing.....listen to your machine. Really! Sew before you clean and oil it, listening to the sounds it makes. Sew again and really listen to how quietly it sews after you clean and oil. The fuzz and dust actually get into the parts and separates them in minute amounts: that's the sound it makes as the parts struggle to turn and work. The oil helps the parts to slide against each other so that they don't get sticky and mucky. Now anytime you hear the sounds, you know you need to clean and oil. BUT it's better not to wait that long...you're machine shouldn't have to cry for help before you give it a bit of attention. I clean and oil my machine EVERY day before leaving the quilt studio. The oil gets to seep into the parts overnight, and I get to begin every day with a machine that sews like a dream.

Yes, Richard does work on my machine, including a good cleaning and oiling yearly. But, I've learned a lot from him and do my part of keeping it clean and oiled, and I NEVER mess with the stuff I don't know. When others do, it aggravates him to no end!

Okay I am going to stop reading here because this is a REALLY valid point! I do not care what the manual says or the dealer for that matter always oil your machine!

Just because its says its "self oiling" doent mean that you do not oil. The self oiling machines have bushings in them that are either UHMW or brass that are impregnated with oil and every time you use the machine and they warm up then the oil weeps out. They wear out really fast when the oil finally weeps all out, and then your buying a new machine. Just take your time and do what she stated and you will be very surprised at how long a machine will last.

And also you need to check out my thread on "Being careful where you send your machine". Because I went to a sewing shop that had an awesome sewing machine display and the staff was great working with the customers on the test drives and they had all of these machines lined up forever it looked like.

But as soon as I walked into the service department I wanted to punch the fool that was running it. For $75 the blow out the machine with compressed air and a few drops of oil and there you go its done. All of this done in less than 5 or 10 minutes. And they put used parts in and charging for new ones. :evil: :evil: :evil:

Ok I am off my soap box now....

Billy

true4uca 06-20-2010 07:02 AM

My manual for my Brother NX 600 clearly says no oil. DH thinks all machines needs oil, so he oiled it. My machine occassionly dripped a little oil for about a month afterward, till it got rid of all that oil. It just amazed me how much did drip out. Guess it could have been worse.
True4uca

shopella 06-20-2010 07:09 AM

I have a singer model 774 I never had the manual but my dad dose the cleaning and oiling yearlyish. is there somewere I can get an old manual? when dad is done cleaning it it always dose run better. Happy fathers day to all dads who do so much for us!

mjsylvstr 06-20-2010 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by Lostn51

Originally Posted by fleurdelisquilts.com
My husband is a sewing machine mechanic who worked in the sewing industry for 25 years. Trust me, every machine needs to be cleaned and oiled on a regular basis. A one inch wide, soft, natural bristle paintbrush will do the trick of removing the dust and grime. Start at the top of the bar that holds the needle and work your way down into the area where the bobbin is. Dust every place where the brush will fit--be gentle. Now move the needle bar up and down slowly, oiling any parts that move that you can reach. Run the machine slowly then add a few drops of oil in the bobbin area. You're ready to go as soon as you sew off on a scrap. I like to use a light colored scrap so I can see the oil when I start and make sure all the extra has run out.

You should take it in to have it professionally cleaned and oiled about once every year or so. These guys get really deep into the machine, clean it, oil it, and time it. So, when you get it back, it will run like a dream. Ask your mechanic to show you the best way to clean and oil your particular machine.

One last thing.....listen to your machine. Really! Sew before you clean and oil it, listening to the sounds it makes. Sew again and really listen to how quietly it sews after you clean and oil. The fuzz and dust actually get into the parts and separates them in minute amounts: that's the sound it makes as the parts struggle to turn and work. The oil helps the parts to slide against each other so that they don't get sticky and mucky. Now anytime you hear the sounds, you know you need to clean and oil. BUT it's better not to wait that long...you're machine shouldn't have to cry for help before you give it a bit of attention. I clean and oil my machine EVERY day before leaving the quilt studio. The oil gets to seep into the parts overnight, and I get to begin every day with a machine that sews like a dream.

Yes, Richard does work on my machine, including a good cleaning and oiling yearly. But, I've learned a lot from him and do my part of keeping it clean and oiled, and I NEVER mess with the stuff I don't know. When others do, it aggravates him to no end!

Okay I am going to stop reading here because this is a REALLY valid point! I do not care what the manual says or the dealer for that matter always oil your machine!

Just because its says its "self oiling" doent mean that you do not oil. The self oiling machines have bushings in them that are either UHMW or brass that are impregnated with oil and every time you use the machine and they warm up then the oil weeps out. They wear out really fast when the oil finally weeps all out, and then your buying a new machine. Just take your time and do what she stated and you will be very surprised at how long a machine will last.

And also you need to check out my thread on "Being careful where you send your machine". Because I went to a sewing shop that had an awesome sewing machine display and the staff was great working with the customers on the test drives and they had all of these machines lined up forever it looked like.

But as soon as I walked into the service department I wanted to punch the fool that was running it. For $75 the blow out the machine with compressed air and a few drops of oil and there you go its done. All of this done in less than 5 or 10 minutes. And they put used parts in and charging for new ones. :evil: :evil: :evil:

Ok I am off my soap box now....

Billy

THANKS, EDDIE....MJ

Carol W 06-20-2010 07:33 AM

This is what I found on the Janome website.


"I have a Janome 6600 and in the manual it says nothing about oiling the machine. Does anyone know if you are suppose to oil this machine or not? I've always oiled my other machines but don't know if I should this one or not. Thanks!"

"QuilterPj, The 6600 is a self oiling machine and we do not need to oil it in the same way we did our old mechanical machines. Having said that... it is ok to place a drop of oil on the wick after many hours of sewing. The wick is located beneath the bobbin holder. If you remove the needle plate and remove the bobbin holder you will see a white plastic ring with a steel ring within it. In the center of that is a small hole with what looks like a tuft of lint. DO NOT REMOVE IT because that is the wick. It should appear oily. If you are not sure then use the tip of the tiny brush supplied with your accessories to poke it LIGHTLY. If you see oil then there is not need to add any more but if it appears dry then a drop of oil is all it needs. I will inspect it each time I clean under the bobbin case but I do not nessescerily add oil it. I also recommend that you talk to your dealer. Not all are comfortable with customers fiddling with their machines. My dealer is all about empowerment so he has shown me a few maintenance tips. Oiling the wick is one thing he said was ok as long as you do not get carried away and add more than a drop or two of oil."

k3n 06-20-2010 07:42 AM

Thanks Carol - I was about to post that same thing. I have a 6600 too and it's fairly new so I haven't had to oil it yet, but I do check the wick everytime I clean under the bobbin case. A friend of has had the same machine for longer and she told me to use the point of a pin to drop the tiniest amount of oil possible onto the wick when necessary.

walen 06-20-2010 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by Lostn51

And also you need to check out my thread on "Being careful where you send your machine". Because I went to a sewing shop that had an awesome sewing machine display and the staff was great working with the customers on the test drives and they had all of these machines lined up forever it looked like.

But as soon as I walked into the service department I wanted to punch the fool that was running it. For $75 the blow out the machine with compressed air and a few drops of oil and there you go its done. All of this done in less than 5 or 10 minutes. And they put used parts in and charging for new ones. :evil: :evil: :evil:

Ok I am off my soap box now....

Billy

YIKES! What a sleezie bunch of mechanics! What did you do to get to go into the service department?

Yoluvtaquilt 06-20-2010 08:04 AM

The feed dogs on my machine were going thump, thump, thump everytime I sewed. So I was going to take it to a repair man and I read this quilting site and couldn't remember if I ever oiled my machine. I love my machine and haven't wanted to give it up. It was purchased new in the early '70. Sooooo I brush off the feed dogs, oiled the little holes that was marked red, guess what! It purrs. Thanks gals. The money I saved on a repair guy I can buy fabric. Yeah!

Lostn51 06-20-2010 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by walen
YIKES! What a sleezie bunch of mechanics! What did you do to get to go into the service department?

The idiot had no idea as to what I was looking for and asked me to come back there. That and the fact I had my S&W .40 on my hip so he probably thought I was a cop or something.:lol: :lol:

Billy

crazicorn 06-20-2010 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by BellaBoo
Every machine needs at least a drop of oil in the bobbin, even the drop in bobbins, they go at fast speeds to rewind.

If I put a drop of oil in my bobbin, my machine will grind to a complete halt. My manual specifically says to NOT oil. I've had it for about 4-5 years now and it use it almost daily...never oiled. :-)

Sooooo, after making that statement, I again read my manual and it doesn't mention anything about oiling or lubricating machine. Now I am absolutely positive that I did read it somewhere in the materials that came with the machine when I purchased it, because I was VERY skeptical when I saw it said to not oil. I had never before heard of a machine not needing to be oiled and I have been sewing for more than 30 years (some of it industrial). :-o

bstanbro 06-20-2010 10:03 AM

My Bernina tells me to oil it every 100,000 stitches, but I do it after every project. It starts getting noisier and oiling it keeps it quieted down to a nice purr. (Or maybe that was me.)

cwessel47 06-20-2010 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by cjomomma
I have had my brother for about 2 years and did not know I was suppose to oil it either. It was running fine so I didn't think about it. So I found my manual which was lost and found out it is suppose to be oiled every hour that I use it. Boy was I surprised it was still running.

Anything that needs to be oiled every hour shouldn't even be on the market! That's ridiculous! Notice that it was still working just fine. My machine is 74 years old. I oil it once every 3-6 months - and I use it a lot!

newestnana 06-20-2010 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by bstanbro
My Bernina tells me to oil it every 100,000 stitches, but I do it after every project. It starts getting noisier and oiling it keeps it quieted down to a nice purr. (Or maybe that was me.)

And also regarding the post:
"I have had my brother for about 2 years and did not know I was suppose to oil it either. It was running fine so I didn't think about it. So I found my manual which was lost and found out it is suppose to be oiled every hour that I use it. Boy was I surprised it was still running."

So...how would you even know how to count 100,000 stitches (or does something tell you)???

And...EVERY HOUR??? Who was that instruction written for?

This has been a very interesting discussion!

quiltermomo 06-20-2010 10:22 AM

I have a Baby Lock quest plus and I could not find out where to oil it in the manual. I looked online and I still couldn't find the information. Would someone post a picture of the oiling site? That goes for my Janome JEM platinum also. Bless you.

khlrkat 06-20-2010 11:17 AM

Hi new here,I have a brother CS6000, I have read the manual,and it does not say any thing about oiling .Do i oil it if so where what parts do i oil

overdew 06-20-2010 01:44 PM

Billy, I trust you, but the dealer(no longer in business locally) said not to oil my Janome 9500 sewing/embroidery machine. I did oil sparingly under bobbin, but not internally. What do you think?

Annz 06-20-2010 02:55 PM

Thanks. Really no need for embarassment. We are almost all guilty of this one.

Ramona Byrd 06-20-2010 03:17 PM

Read the manual?

What manual? You mean that little book that came
with the machine? I know it's around here somewhere.

But where is the question. One of these days I'll find it,
and perhaps even read it. So far, my two machines are
running nicely.

jbj137 06-20-2010 07:40 PM

OOOOPS!!!!
I had a SINGER for 20 years and never oiled it. Maybe that is why it died.
But really it was worn out.
JBJ137 in SC

butterflyquilter 06-20-2010 07:48 PM

I guess I better FIND my manuals first!!! I have never read one of mine all the way through.

btty 06-20-2010 08:39 PM

I have a brother CS6000i. I had lint built up in the bobbin case and thought it was broken. Anyway, I called the manufacturer and the gentleman I talked to said never oil it. He said that there is a special lubricant that machine mechanics use and to take it once a year to be serviced.

seasaw2mch 06-20-2010 08:41 PM

I was an industrial mechanic for several years a long time ago so I have always oiled mine just because I knew it was needed. All moving parts on any machine need some lubrication at some point in time. But I also tear it down (sort of speak) once a year and do a complete cleaning and oil job. I have a Singer Touch & Sew that is probably about 35 years old or older. Works like new and I don't think I will ever get rid of it.

Oh yea the special machine oil they are talking about is called machine oil ( I use the "3-in-one" brand myself) which you can get at any hardware store.

k3n 06-20-2010 11:10 PM

Re oiling - if your machine is under warranty, and you don't follow the instructions in the manual, you could invalidate your warranty. I for one wouldn't spend 1500 euros on a machine and then not look after it properly (and this includes reading the manual in my view, and understanding how it works). That is just foolhardy. :hunf:

LindaR 06-21-2010 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by true4uca
My manual for my Brother NX 600 clearly says no oil. DH thinks all machines needs oil, so he oiled it. My machine occassionly dripped a little oil for about a month afterward, till it got rid of all that oil. It just amazed me how much did drip out. Guess it could have been worse.
True4uca

I stated that my 270D is completely sealed....I did oil the bobbin case and what a mess....bobbin just spinned :lol: Took awhile to get that cleaned out, and it just just a minute drop. the manual says to clean regularly so thats what I do...all my other machines I oil frequently but not old 270D... :thumbup:

khlrkat 06-21-2010 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by btty
I have a brother CS6000i. I had lint built up in the bobbin case and thought it was broken. Anyway, I called the manufacturer and the gentleman I talked to said never oil it. He said that there is a special lubricant that machine mechanics use and to take it once a year to be serviced.

hi there,do you have the number for the manufacturer? I need to find a dealer to take my to ,to have serviced thank you khlrkat

wildirishrose 06-21-2010 07:39 AM

I win, I hade my old White Rotary machine since high school (1945) and I never oiled or cleaned it. I mean NEVER. It still worked perfectly when I gave it to my son( he asked for it) about about 1984. It still works beautifully!!

bluesnowdoe 06-21-2010 05:01 PM

just to let you know you need to use oil for
sewing machine it is lighter than regular oil almost like mineral oil

lab fairy 06-21-2010 06:37 PM

Any time you have a moving part, small pieces of metal come off of it. That is what lubrication is for. If you have never oiled your machine, you still are damaging the parts and they will fail eventually. The type of lubricant you use is important because many change viscosity as they heat up and some just plain get "gummy" over time. I can't tell you how many times I've heard the "I can't believe someone ruined this because someone didn't do..." in an industrial setting.

Many of us call our machines our "baby" and unlike our children these actually come with instructions. I don't read my whole manual but I always read the troubleshooting and maintenance section. When something doesn't make sense (or work), call the dealer and ask. Your baby will thank you (so will your checking account when you don't have to take a machine in for maintenace).

My husband reminded me this morning that my serger wasn't "humming" quite as nicely as hit should (it is all mechanical not electronic so it is louder than some) and was time to take it to the garage (I use the air compressor to blow out the lint and stuff before I lubricate). Got to love a guy who "listens" to the sound of machines.

sharstep 06-26-2010 02:27 PM

OMG...You mean that little white tube that sits in the utility compartment is for oiling the machine??? How lame can I be? :oops:

Bev 07-03-2010 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by Carol W
I just looked in my manual for my Janome 6600. All it says is to wipe and clean. It doesn't say anything about oiling it. I guess I'll call the LQS where I purchased it to see if I need to.

I have two Janomes and I was told by the shop owner each time I purchased them (at a Janome store) that NO OILING was necessary or recommended. Geez I hope that's correct. I clean them frequently and take them in each year for their servicing, but have never oiled either one. I'm going to call my service tech and ask him about it before I attempt any oiling. I'd rather be safe than sorry. 8-)


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