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Marquilt 09-23-2010 07:27 PM

I have been experimenting with machine quilting - different threads and needles. I am keeping a written journal of what works best with what, but tonight I found myself confused. I'm not sure what needle I have in the machine. The system I had going of leaving the needle pack open from which the current one came has failed me, since I have two open packs next to my machine, each with one needle out of it.

I do know that the size is engraved in teeny print on the shaft, but I cannot begin to see that. There must be a magnifying glass around here someplace, but this is way too labor intensive.

I need a better plan and I'll bet you people already have one to share with me. *S*

wolfkitty 09-23-2010 07:33 PM

Do you write in your journal what needle you have in the machine? Would that work?

Ramona Byrd 09-23-2010 07:36 PM

What works well for me is, as soon as I get them, I put a dab of wild Halloween fingernail polish on each needle. One dab for one size with the identical number written down on a piece of paper that I tape on the package, with the right size, two dabs with number written down. I can see right away what size it is, even without being able to find my magnifying glass. Of course I have to use something to see the numbers in the first place, but then the glass can stay lost for a while.

The dabs of fingernail polish goes under the gripper so it does not affect the sewing.

Marquilt 09-23-2010 07:37 PM

yes, I do record which needle I am using for which test piece, but today I changed test pieces. Did I change that needle? I don't think so, but did I yesterday?

Old People and Memory....LOL

Marquilt 09-23-2010 07:39 PM

Ramona, I like your fingernail polish idea! Now I'll have to go buy a bottle of it. But please, what do you mean by the "gripper"?

Scissor Queen 09-23-2010 07:45 PM

I have my machine needles in a large pill box type thing. I put a button in the section that I took the needle from.

purplefiend 09-23-2010 07:48 PM

I put a post-it note on my machine when I change needles.
Sharon

BellaBoo 09-23-2010 09:32 PM

After tossing many good machine needles because I had no idea what size they were I made myself know what needle I am using in my machine. I write down the size and type of needle when I change it and write the date and time too. I have started using Organ Titanium coated topstitch needles so when the other brands I have are used up, keeping track won't be hard, the needles are colored coated so I can see at a glance what they are.

EasyPeezy 09-23-2010 09:42 PM

I keep an index card in my drawer and write the date, type and size of
needle. That way I know for how long I've been using the same needle
too.

gale 09-23-2010 10:44 PM

I use a tomato pincushion and write the sizes on the sections. I put a regular ball-tip pin in the section with the needle size that's in my machine.

clem55 09-24-2010 04:26 AM

Now I am going to sound really dumb, and I am asking a really dumb question, but why is this such a big deal? I have sewed garments for many many years, and except for the right size needle for the fabric I am using, I've never given much thought to thread size/type versus needle size, or how long the needle has been used. I usually use a needle until it breaks. Maybe I've just been lucky, but it has never seemed to be a problem for me. Explanation, please.

AlienQuilter 09-24-2010 04:43 AM

You need different size needles for different fabrics.

I was sewing a purse handle the other day and kept getting skipped stitches. Re-threaded the machine several times including the bobbin. Cleaned really good. Then finally read the manual for troubleshooting. My needle wasn't big enough and once I put a larger needle in, my machine sewed perfectly.

The manual that comes with your machine should have a reference list for matching fabric with needles. If you don't have a manual, look online, there are lots of free manuals online.

clem55 09-24-2010 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by AlienQuilter
You need different size needles for different fabrics.

I was sewing a purse handle the other day and kept getting skipped stitches. Re-threaded the machine several times including the bobbin. Cleaned really good. Then finally read the manual for troubleshooting. My needle wasn't big enough and once I put a larger needle in, my machine sewed perfectly.

The manual that comes with your machine should have a reference list for matching fabric with needles. If you don't have a manual, look online, there are lots of free manuals online.

I know why you use different size needles, I just wonder why you all seem to think you have to use new needles
so often . I've heard comments like I change needles with every new project I start. Seems like a waste to me, especially if you are using the same fabrics. I don't mean changing when you get a burr or bent, etc. I mean just changing so often when there doesn'T seem to be anything wrong with the needle that is in there.

Scissor Queen 09-24-2010 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by clem55

Originally Posted by AlienQuilter
You need different size needles for different fabrics.

I was sewing a purse handle the other day and kept getting skipped stitches. Re-threaded the machine several times including the bobbin. Cleaned really good. Then finally read the manual for troubleshooting. My needle wasn't big enough and once I put a larger needle in, my machine sewed perfectly.

The manual that comes with your machine should have a reference list for matching fabric with needles. If you don't have a manual, look online, there are lots of free manuals online.

I know why you use different size needles, I just wonder why you all seem to think you have to use new needles
so often . I've heard comments like I change needles with every new project I start. Seems like a waste to me, especially if you are using the same fabrics. I don't mean changing when you get a burr or bent, etc. I mean just changing so often when there doesn'T seem to be anything wrong with the needle that is in there.

Because they get dull. They get dull a lot faster than you would think too.

clem55 09-24-2010 06:42 AM

But if they are going in and out of the fabric, and the holes aren'T showing, and it isn't breaking fabric threads while doing so, then I can't see where the needle is too dull . So aren"t you just doing something because someone tells you it needs to be done? I"d like a really good reason, an example.

BRenea 09-24-2010 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by gale
I use a tomato pincushion and write the sizes on the sections. I put a regular ball-tip pin in the section with the needle size that's in my machine.

I do the same thing, except my pincushion is flower-shaped. Great minds, I guess! :wink:

Bobbin along 09-24-2010 06:53 AM

To keep track of which needle is in my machine, I use a small loop of (non-residual) tape on the back of the needle pack and stick it onto the front my machine.

EasyPeezy 09-24-2010 09:29 AM

I like to keep track of my needles because I like to use the right needle
for the job. It makes a big difference. As to changing needles, I change
whenever I feel like but not too often...depending how much I've been
sewing and what I've been sewing. Fleece will make your needle dull
very quickly. But to each his/her own, I guess. :)

EasyPeezy 09-24-2010 09:34 AM

Here's a neat machine needle organizer for those interested.
I think I should make one of those for myself. :D
http://site.iwebcenters.com/bluefeat...tMainPhoto.jpg

gale 09-24-2010 07:06 PM

I don't use a new needle each time. I'd never be able to keep track because I have more than one project going at a time, usually. The pincushion works great because I can just put the needle back in it when I take it out of my machine. If I think it's getting near the end of its life I'll put is down toward the middle of the pincushion and use it for less critical projects.

Marquilt 09-24-2010 07:19 PM

All of you have such great ideas! And the best thing here is that now I know I'm not the only one who has had trouble keeping track of my needles. This is quite reassuring. *S*

I most like the suggestion of the post it note. I use post it notes regularly when I'm piecing - why didn't I think of this one? Now if I can just remember to do it.

I never thought about recording the insertion date, and I should do that too. I know I've used the same universal needle for piecing long past its prime.

Thanks for all the responses!

featherweight 09-24-2010 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by gale
I use a tomato pincushion and write the sizes on the sections. I put a regular ball-tip pin in the section with the needle size that's in my machine.

We learned that a a quilting class and I never forget now... Really like the idea.

Shelley 09-24-2010 07:41 PM

Check out this link from Superior Threads, talking about needles. Turns out you only need Topstitch needles - they handle everything. Dr. Bob know his thread and needles, his company depends on it. He'd make more $$ if he did like all the other companies and put out all the different kinds of needles, but he only recommends the topstitch for our home machines.

http://www.superiorthreads.com/shop/...s/description/

BellaBoo 09-24-2010 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by Shelley
Check out this link from Superior Threads, talking about needles. Turns out you only need Topstitch needles - they handle everything. Dr. Bob know his thread and needles, his company depends on it. He'd make more $$ if he did like all the other companies and put out all the different kinds of needles, but he only recommends the topstitch for our home machines.

http://www.superiorthreads.com/shop/...s/description/

Superior Topstitch needles by Organ are the only ones I buy now. They make a big difference in my fmq. Superior is a good company and stands behind all their products.

gale 09-25-2010 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by Shelley
Check out this link from Superior Threads, talking about needles. Turns out you only need Topstitch needles - they handle everything. Dr. Bob know his thread and needles, his company depends on it. He'd make more $$ if he did like all the other companies and put out all the different kinds of needles, but he only recommends the topstitch for our home machines.

http://www.superiorthreads.com/shop/...s/description/

I was going to try their topstitch needle but then at least 2 people on the janome 6500/6600 email group said that they didn't work in their 6600. They both said they were too long. Is Organ the same? they have a titanium topstitch needle too.
http://www.discountembroiderysupply....nd-Titanium%29

amma 09-25-2010 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by clem55
But if they are going in and out of the fabric, and the holes aren'T showing, and it isn't breaking fabric threads while doing so, then I can't see where the needle is too dull . So aren"t you just doing something because someone tells you it needs to be done? I"d like a really good reason, an example.

Same fabric no problem, switching thread? now you may need to switch the needle too. Some of the threads I use for quilting are thicker than what I use for piecing. If you do thread painting/embellishments/applique, you could be using a multitude of different weight threads. So I have needles with larger openings, in different sizes to accomodate these threads.
I also use a larger needle for quilting than I do for piecing... I found I was bending a size 80 when FMQ so a size 100 works better for me.

Olivia's Grammy 09-25-2010 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by EasyPeezy
Here's a neat machine needle organizer for those interested.
I think I should make one of those for myself. :D
http://site.iwebcenters.com/bluefeat...tMainPhoto.jpg

I have on of those, I like the tomato pin cushion with the sizes written on it the best.

Shelley 09-25-2010 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by gale

Originally Posted by Shelley
Check out this link from Superior Threads, talking about needles. Turns out you only need Topstitch needles - they handle everything. Dr. Bob know his thread and needles, his company depends on it. He'd make more $$ if he did like all the other companies and put out all the different kinds of needles, but he only recommends the topstitch for our home machines.

http://www.superiorthreads.com/shop/...s/description/

I was going to try their topstitch needle but then at least 2 people on the janome 6500/6600 email group said that they didn't work in their 6600. They both said they were too long. Is Organ the same? they have a titanium topstitch needle too.
http://www.discountembroiderysupply....nd-Titanium%29

I would call Superior on Monday. They are AWESOME to work with, and extremely knowledgeable. If you need a different length needle for your specific machine, they will know it.

pocoellie 09-25-2010 04:37 PM

clem55-I'm like you, I change the needle when I break it or when I change to much heavier fabric. I even do my machine quilting with a 12.

sueisallaboutquilts 09-26-2010 04:24 AM

Same here. I'm really bad following the rules with needles!!

QuiltswithConvicts 09-26-2010 01:23 PM

I'm chuckling because having a dull needle in my machine is what got me my Janome 6600P! I was FMQing on my little Janome Memory Craft 3000 with Fairfield Processing Cotton Classic in the sandwich. The needle was dull, but I was on such a roll, I didn't want to stop and the stitching was just fine. It just made a horrible thunk, thunk, thunk.

Better tell you that my machine sat in the windows of the sewing room. We had a terrible hail storm that broke out all the windows on the south side of the house. This machine was covered in water, broken glass, leaves, twigs, etc. I let it sit, untouched for a week and then tried it - worked just fine - still does.

Back to the story. DH came into the room and commented that he thought the machine was about to die. Actually he said, "crash" as he's a PhD in computer science. I agreed, "Yeah, it probably is." I wasn't about to say anything re. the dull needle as I wanted a new machine! ☺ I had seen the 6600P at the LQS and is was love at first sight. I had mentioned to DH that I was wanting a machine with more decorative stitches, and he had said I ought to get one. However, he was recovering from the amputation of his leg and open heart surgery - all in the same stay at the hosp. & I wanted him to say to buy it. I dragged him to LQS a couple of months later, plopped him in front of the store machine to look at it. In the meantime - I shopped! He finally told me to buy it, but that was after I had piled up about $300.00 worth of stuff and fabric!

I love my 6600P! (and DH, too, of course!)


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