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mooshie 02-19-2013 08:39 PM

LA quilting question
 
I've had my LA for a few months now and I'm sure at some point b-4 I bought my machine that someone taught me this but I have forgotten and have just been winging it. I think there must be a right way though.

What I'm wondering is, what do you do when you get to the bottom of your quilt so that you don't sew your leaders, yet the tension on the quilt top stays consistent with the rest of the quilt? I've been un-pinning it, but this creates waves on the bottom sometimes.

I just think there's gotta be a better way. I don't pin the quilt top at the beginning, but once it's stitched down it stays put. I'd like the end to be as nice and even as the beginning.

I hope this makes sens and that someone can help me.

Thanks!

mighty 02-19-2013 08:46 PM

You can pin it back from the edge about 1/2 to 3/4 in and then baste it. You can also use a little spray baste and smooth it down. Others may have better ideas but these have worked for me.

Tashana 02-19-2013 08:47 PM

I do not know what others do but when I come to th bottom I unpin my top from the leader and pin it/stitch it to the backing and batting. I am self-taught, so there is a big chance I am doing it wrong, but it works for me. Good luck!

DebraK 02-19-2013 09:53 PM

I don't understand. Do you float you your tops?

w7sue 02-19-2013 09:55 PM

I am pretty much self-taught too, but when I get to the end I run a basting stitch across the bottom, then release it from my leader. I pin it down, then do the stitching a little less than 1/4" in from the edge then go back and do the last row of quilting.

I use Red Snappers to secure my quilts to the leaders and this is the only way I could figure out to do it since the bottom of the quilt is always secured into the Red Snappers.

Nilla 02-20-2013 03:18 AM

I pin my backing to the leaders. I straight stitch my batting to the backing. I float the top. When I get to the bottom of the quilt, I just smooth it out like I do through out. I've only had my LA for a month or so, so maybe I'm doing something wrong and don't realize it, but my quilts are looking good so far...

QuiltnNan 02-20-2013 03:31 AM


Originally Posted by Nilla (Post 5874503)
I pin my backing to the leaders. I straight stitch my batting to the backing. I float the top. When I get to the bottom of the quilt, I just smooth it out like I do through out. I've only had my LA for a month or so, so maybe I'm doing something wrong and don't realize it, but my quilts are looking good so far...

this is the way i do it, too, except that i sew my backing, batting, and top to the front leader. then i velcro the leader to the pole. the backing bottom is sewn to the last leader. i float the batting and top.

ckcowl 02-20-2013 03:31 AM

with the backing pinned to the leaders & larger than the top i can move the quilt forward- so i can sew right to the bottom edge of the quilt top- the backing/batting are secured to the leader-leaving plenty of space to keep everything smooth & flat and no danger of stitching the leaders....i allow at least 5" of backing/batting larger than my quilt tops to allow this space all the way around the quilt top.

Joset 02-20-2013 05:07 AM

I also just pin my back and batting to the leader not the top . i also just let the top float.

PaperPrincess 02-20-2013 05:11 AM

I am totally lost. I make sure my backing is at least 3" bigger all the way around and float the batting and the top. When I pin it to the leaders, there's only about a half inch overlap of the backing onto the leader at the top and bottom. I stay stitch the top of the quilt when I start, stay stitch the sides as i advance the quilt, and the last advance of the quilt I stay stitch the sides and bottom. why do you have to un pin it when you get to the bottom? The area to be quilted is several inches from the leader...

soccertxi 02-20-2013 06:12 AM

Mooshie, are you talking about wavy borders or wavy backing? There are at least 3 reasons the bottom border is wavy... 1. when we quilt on a frame, the fabric can get stretched. When you unpin, it looks wavy. Try spritzing it with water or Best Press and walking away for a bit. When its dry, if the stretching was the problem, it will tighten up...some. 2 the borders don't fit the quilt well. Do you measure before you cut? or do you just cut a long piece and then trim? Its important for the top/bottom and both sides to match each other (not the sides and top..the side to side to match...clear as mud? sorry!) If you search on the QB, you will find border tutorials. if not PM me and I will find some. and 3. as we quilt down a quilt, the quilting pulls the quilt top up, leaving you more fabric along the bottom. I used to think I was doing something wrong, but like needing extra backing, its the nature of the quilting-on-a frame beast. You might think of SID and basting the whole quilt before you actually quilt it. This way you can measure and baste as you go down the quilt. I hope this helps. I'm not a longarm expert by any means...School of hard knocks for me!

aborning 02-20-2013 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by Tashana (Post 5874222)
I do not know what others do but when I come to th bottom I unpin my top from the leader and pin it/stitch it to the backing and batting. I am self-taught, so there is a big chance I am doing it wrong, but it works for me. Good luck!

THis is exaqctly how I do it and it works very well. I just unpin it from the leader, then put pins in -close together-along the whole edge and baste the edge. Then I remove the pins. Now if the bottom border had some fullness in it, the fullnessh has been worked in by pinning close together and then basting it so your bottom edge stays the same width as the rest of the quilt. You are now ready to finish quilting the bottom part of the quilt and it all stays in place.

ka9sdn 02-20-2013 06:29 AM

I am confused by why you unpin the bottom of your quilt. When I load my quilt I pin the backing to both the upper and lower leaders with the backing being several inches longer than the quilt top. Then I pin the bottom of my quilt to the lower leader, roll it up and float the top edge close to the upper leader. I pull the batting up between the backing and top. I baste the top edge of the top and batting to the backing and then proceed on to do the quilting. It is also good to baste the sides of the top as you move down the quilt. You always need to have extra backing in the length as the quilting uses up extra fabric.

PaperPrincess 02-20-2013 07:32 AM

OKAY, I just re-read the original post. It sounds like you pin the backing to the backing leader, and the top to the top leader. I did this exactly once, and now I just float my quilt top, that is, I pin the backing and just lay the batting and top on the backing.
Here's a you tube on floating a top:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpjep8O4U4s

Not saying that this is the "right" way to do it, just a different technique.

dunster 02-20-2013 08:35 AM

I completely understand what you're saying, and have had the same issue, and I know it wasn't because the quilt was wonky or wavy to begin with. I *think* that the problem occurs because I wasn't careful enough to keep the sides of the quilt completely straight, so that they started to angle in by the time I was at the bottom. That meant the extra fabric at the bottom had to be eased in, and the bottom wasn't as wide as the top.

The other thing that might be happening is that the quilting stitches cause the quilt to contract somewhat, so it looks like there is more fabric at the bottom, whereas there really isn't - it just hasn't been quilted yet. To take care of that, I try to unpin the bottom part of the quilt top before I get too close to finishing, and then pin the sides of the top to the batting and backing. That seems to keep it where I want it to be so the bottom is square.

Now that's what I've done... probably not the right thing... I'd love to see a video of someone doing it. I don't remember ever seeing a video of someone finishing the very bottom of a quilt.

mooshie 02-20-2013 12:13 PM

Thank you for the replies. I have not been floating my top. I have been pinning it to the leader for the top. It's just how I was taught. But I think I will try a few things that were suggested here and see what I like. The 2 I like best are to just do as I have been, with basting the bottom b-4 quilting the last bit, and floating the top with basting the sides as I go. I've tried it with and w/o basting the sides down as I go, and don't really have a strong preference one way or the other as I don't see that either one makes a big difference. But I have known others who really like one way or the other.

Good thing I have a bunch of things to quilt, it'll give me plenty of practice.

I will say, I don't love pinning, so perhaps floating the top will be something I like, as I will get to avoid 1/3 of the pinning.


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