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Watson 02-15-2021 09:57 AM

Learn from my mistake...blue disappearing marker
 
I always use a blue marker that disappears with water to mark my quilts and have never had a problem until now, so learn from my mistake.
I marked what I thought was everything, sandwiched with 80/20 and a layer of 100% wool batting on top and then needed to mark one more line. Well..parts of that line will not come out. They disappear when I blot them with water, but show up again when it dries. I'm assuming that the pen soaked into the wool and keeps bleeding back onto the quilt top, which is white. This is a wallhanging and was not meant to be washed.
Not sure if this will only happen with wool or if it would have happened with just 80/20 as well.
Maybe this post will save someone else some trouble. Mark everything first!
Watson


Tartan 02-15-2021 10:28 AM

Oh dear! If it is a localized spot, can you put that part over a basin and run water through over the marks and see if that removes it?

costumegirl 02-15-2021 01:29 PM

Watson - Sorry to hear about the situation - What brand is it? Perhaps contact the company customer service - they may have a suggestion. Hope a solution is offered.

QuiltE 02-15-2021 02:24 PM

CostumeGirl ... Good Idea!

Watson ... Ouch! So sorry this has happened to you.
I didn't think that any of those type of markers would go beyond the surface, to cause the problem. Any chance you grabbed the wrong pen?

On another note to we four Ontarians .... anyone getting "that" storm they threatened about last night and all day? The odd flake has drifted down here, but that's about it! (here as in GGTA-W) Not that I really want it or anything, but shows how good the forecasting can be .... not! :)

Watson 02-15-2021 05:26 PM

It's 8:30 and snowing like mad, here. Supposed to get 25 cm...that's 10" for our American friends and more coming tomorrow.

When I turned the wallhanging over, the blue has seeped through the back, so I think I was right and the wool grabbed the marker and sucked it in. It wasn't the wrong marker because it came off everywhere else except the one line I marked after I sandwiched it.

Watson

QuiltE 02-15-2021 06:40 PM

Nothing happening here. Not a flake. ..... yet!
Supposed to be the same here as far as accumulation. Being west of you, it just may change in the next few hours and by morning we'll be plastered! :)

A further thought ...... not sure how you have sandwiched it, but it sounds like the quilt top is OK. So ...... could you dismantle the whole thing? Then work with the quilt top to get it back to freshly pressed. Then re-mark, and reassemble the sandwich with different batting, just to be sure?

These things are always annoying ... and destroy the fun of doing them, aren't they?
Good Luck, Watson!

stitch678 02-15-2021 06:44 PM

When l couldn't get my blue ink to stay gone, a friend told me she always uses a que tip dipped in cup water with 1 tsp. baking soda added. It worked beautifully for me...even after my blue had gone thru batting to back ( l had to dab back too).
l'm in eastern Ont., ( near Belleville) we have the same forecast...nothing yet. But we can still get it later,lol.

quiltingshorttimer 02-15-2021 07:49 PM

Stitch is right on target. The water with baking soda will neutralize. When I use on customer quilt I always let them know that best, first time to wash, to actually not use any detergent as that will set it-instead just use cold water. But you are right, it will soak into the bat and keep reappearing unless it's soaked completely out. (top,bat,back).

costumegirl 02-15-2021 08:05 PM

Stitch678 - Now that you mention it I think I remember a few years ago a guild member talking about using water & baking soda to remove ink stains - glad that it worked for you!
Watson it might be worth a try

Ontario Friends - It's almost 11 pm here in the Windsor area and the storm is definitely in full swing - snowing and blowing like crazy - wind is really whipping around - we probably have about 4-5" (at least 12 cm ) right now and it's supposed to continue through the night and taper off about 9 am. - Will be snow blower & shoveling fun tomorrow!

QuiltE 02-15-2021 08:59 PM

CostumeGirl .... No! Shoveling is NOT fun! D)
Midnight and all is calm here, and not a flake yet. Maybe it is going to stay down closer to the lake and not come above the 401 to us? (says she who will probably wake up buried!!!!!!!)

stitch678 02-16-2021 05:37 AM

An early morning update on the storm...we awoke to find snow is up to the top of the rail fences in places, yet , l still have rural internet ( dish). So likely it was blowing up.
l wonder if others here find that the purple " air dissappearing" ink which fades within a few hours ( often just minutes!) does indeed return when quilt is cold. I've been using these exclusively when quilting charity quilts while in Florida. Now l'm quilting Linus quilts at home in Ont., and wonder. If so, how cold? A travel quilt left out in a car or trailer cold? chilly sunporch cold?

QuiltE 02-16-2021 08:12 AM

Stitch678 ... I don't really have an answer for you as I haven't used the disappearing purple ones to any account. However, I do use the Frixion pens which can reappear in the cold as well. Sometimes that is ... I think using Best Press in the piecing process gives a protective coating to keep them from sinking in, and then having what's needed to reappear. Only a guess, but there definitely is an inconsistency. Instead of the iron to remove the Frixion markings, I have used a hair dryer/blower! I know some toss theirs into the dryer for the heat to remove.

As for the storm ... pretty much a nothing here. Little snow. No blow.
We had maybe 2" ... and I may be stretching that too! :)
Maybe because I am above the escarpment here?
Sunny and bright right now ... with a few flakes prettily drifting down.
Perfect day, right? ... well only if I get to the sewing room!!!!! :D

quiltingshorttimer 02-16-2021 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by QuiltE (Post 8461492)
Stitch678 ... I don't really have an answer for you as I haven't used the disappearing purple ones to any account. However, I do use the Frixion pens which can reappear in the cold as well. Sometimes that is ... I think using Best Press in the piecing process gives a protective coating to keep them from sinking in, and then having what's needed to reappear. Only a guess, but there definitely is an inconsistency. Instead of the iron to remove the Frixion markings, I have used a hair dryer/blower! I know some toss theirs into the dryer for the heat to remove.

As for the storm ... pretty much a nothing here. Little snow. No blow.
We had maybe 2" ... and I may be stretching that too! :)
Maybe because I am above the escarpment here?
Sunny and bright right now ... with a few flakes prettily drifting down.
Perfect day, right? ... well only if I get to the sewing room!!!!! :D

Interesting thought on the Best Press causing the marker to return. While I have not had problems with either the blue or purple markers, I had a horrible time getting UltraClean Crayola Markers out of a customer quilt (green on tan). It was a large diamond in a baby quilt and she asked me to do farm animal designs in that center. It was cut on bias but didn't have any stretch which should have tipped me off that she'd starch it. I'm always wondered if the starch caused the green marker to just not come out. What a nightmare!. After I took it off the frame I zigzagged the edges (I didn't have her binding)and then washed in machine--1st with just water; then with water and Grandma's Stain Remover on the lines; then with mild detergent. Then I used blue Dawn and let soak in cold water overnight. Finally it was gone. Gave the customer a free quilting for all the hassle and gave the markers to my grandsons.

quiltingshorttimer 02-16-2021 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by QuiltE (Post 8461492)
Stitch678 ... I don't really have an answer for you as I haven't used the disappearing purple ones to any account. However, I do use the Frixion pens which can reappear in the cold as well. Sometimes that is ... I think using Best Press in the piecing process gives a protective coating to keep them from sinking in, and then having what's needed to reappear. Only a guess, but there definitely is an inconsistency. Instead of the iron to remove the Frixion markings, I have used a hair dryer/blower! I know some toss theirs into the dryer for the heat to remove.

As for the storm ... pretty much a nothing here. Little snow. No blow.
We had maybe 2" ... and I may be stretching that too! :)
Maybe because I am above the escarpment here?
Sunny and bright right now ... with a few flakes prettily drifting down.
Perfect day, right? ... well only if I get to the sewing room!!!!! :D

Interesting thought on the Best Press causing the marker to return. While I have not had problems with either the blue or purple markers, I had a horrible time getting UltraClean Crayola Markers out of a customer quilt (green on tan). It was a large diamond in a baby quilt and she asked me to do farm animal designs in that center. It was cut on bias but didn't have any stretch which should have tipped me off that she'd starch it. I'm always wondered if the starch caused the green marker to just not come out. What a nightmare!. After I took it off the frame I zigzagged the edges (I didn't have her binding)and then washed in machine--1st with just water; then with water and Grandma's Stain Remover on the lines; then with mild detergent. Then I used blue Dawn and let soak in cold water overnight. Finally it was gone. Gave the customer a free quilting for all the hassle and gave the markers to my grandsons.

QuiltE 02-16-2021 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by quiltingshorttimer (Post 8461611)
Interesting thought on the Best Press causing the marker to return................

Actually, I was thinking the other way .... that the BP creates a coating and the Frixion does not sink in, in the same way, then does not return when cold. I really don't know but that is the only thing I have been able to put it to. OUCH about your experience with your customer's quilt.

Battle Axe 02-17-2021 04:12 AM

Here in Northern Indiana, we had 9-12 inches of snow, got blown around, depending on where you measured it. Toward Chicago it was 17 inches.
The only thing that disappeared around here was a squirrel when he jumped down off a tree into the snow. He did pop back up and made it to the bird feeder where he helped himself.

Patg 02-22-2021 06:43 AM

I used to use the disappearing ink markers for a long time, then heard of problems with the ink reappearing. So I switched to water soluble markers about 15 years ago, have never had problems with them. I used to spray the marks as I finished quilting an area, but now I just wait until I'm done and rinse the entire quilt in the washer. Works great.

juliasb 02-22-2021 07:46 AM

Ouch! Maybe a blotter with something like a color drawing base will pull it out. You may have to be a bit creative with this one. I a so sorry this has happened to your quilt.
As far as the snow goes. I have had my share and it is finally starting to melt off some. We were blessed that we did not get as much as many others but be got our share. Now the ice is another story. It will take weeks to see that all gone.


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