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Onebyone 06-27-2017 02:37 PM

Machine locked up.
 
I was sewing binding on my quilt and it stopped. The needle won't budge (of course it froze needle down), the hand wheel won't turn. I managed to get the needle out of the binding so I could remove it. I took the housing off, couldn't see any obvious problem. It's a Brother 1500 PS so it's all mechanical, easy to see most problems. Nothing in the bobbin area looked out of place. So I have it in the shop now. It needed the reverse lever spring re strung anyway(it popped off a few months ago) This machine is years old, first model of the 1500. I love it. I will post what the problem was as soon as it's fixed. I know many here have this machine and will want to know what it was in case their machine has the same problem.

popover 06-27-2017 02:39 PM

A broken gear can do that.

Onebyone 06-27-2017 02:46 PM

I have the parts manual and how everything goes together. I don't know why I have that, I don't want to take the machine apart. LOL

cjsews 06-27-2017 02:58 PM

I had one lock up on me. I forgot to oil it. Duh

Gay 06-27-2017 03:10 PM

ditto - cjsews - I didn't think the needle shaft that goes up an down needed oiling. After all, we're told not to oil anything as it happens automatically.
I would like to find out how to get the covers of so I can blow out the dust bunnies, but my manual doesn't show me that

Jingle 06-27-2017 03:37 PM

All moving parts should be oiled, especially on the straight stitch only machines. I don't have computerized machines.

Barb in Louisiana 06-27-2017 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by Gay (Post 7852853)
ditto - cjsews - I didn't think the needle shaft that goes up an down needed oiling. After all, we're told not to oil anything as it happens automatically.
I would like to find out how to get the covers of so I can blow out the dust bunnies, but my manual doesn't show me that

I have a different Brother than yours, but the screw may be in the same place, which is on the back side of the top of the machine over by the needle.

Boston1954 06-27-2017 05:21 PM

I have a Brother SQ9000 (bought July 2010) and it started acting funny about a year ago. Jim took it all apart and oiled and cleaned it for me. It has been fine ever since. I did have to wait several days to do any sewing as there was a bit of oil coming down the needle shaft, but that is a small price to pay.

I'm hoping your baby will not cost too much to fix.

Peckish 06-27-2017 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by Gay (Post 7852853)
we're told not to oil anything as it happens automatically.

Told by whom? It all depends on your machine. You should do what your manual says. My Brother PQ1500's manual says to oil, and has illustrations that show the specific spots to oil and how often. My Brother SE 270D's manual says NOT to oil, because it's sealed and is self-oiling.

Onebyone 06-27-2017 06:42 PM

My 1500 has screws in the top and on both sides. Easy to take the housing off. The bottom comes off by unscrewing the feet pads and two screws by the bobbin area.
If you have a self oiling machine, the manufacturer assumes you will be taking it in for check up as the manual suggests. The machine will get a good oiling or dose of silicone to last until next maint check up. The machine will not last forever with no lubrication to keep it self oiled.

Stitchnripper 06-27-2017 06:50 PM

Thanks for the info Onebyone. I have an early version of that machine too. I do oil it as directed but haven't taken it apart yet. I've had it less than a year and the previous owner had just had it serviced at the place I used when I lived back there. We went back for a visit and this machine practically threw itself at me so I couldn't resist. I love it too.

Irishrose2 06-27-2017 07:58 PM

My Elna did that years ago - pure neglect - made too many projects w/o stopping to oil the machine. A little embarrassing to pick up from the repair shop. Let's hope that's all you need.

At the time, I was in the middle of a wedding dress and borrowed a friend's Singer - it wouldn't sew the satin or lace, so I broke into a vacationing friend's house and took her Elna. I did leave her a note. Now I have multiple back up machines.

Gerbie 06-28-2017 03:20 AM

I have a FW and a Bernina 930 that I use all the time. I try to be sure to clean and oil both after 8 hours or so of sewing on them. Think of your machines like automobiles they need their oil changed every 3,000-4,000 miles, so a sewing machine needs a new drink of oil too after miles of sewing, (when I get thirsty I want a drink of water). Both run very smoothly and quietly. I bought 930 new in 1985, and have never had to take it in for repairs. I do my own maintenance.
When I oil my machines, I place a scrap piece of fabric under the presser foot with it in the down position and leave it there all night to absorb excess oil, and run my machine un threaded for a minute or two on another scrap to pick up any oil that might still be dripping down the shaft when I get ready to sew again.
I normally take my to my quilting group once a month but need to do some decorative stitching on the quilt I was working on, so I took 930- one of the oldest ladies in my group came over to look a my block and commented that my machine was the quietest running sewing machine she had ever heard. I informed her how often I clean and oil my machines, so I know it makes a big difference, most of the machines in my group are quite loud and often sound like thrashing machines. I oil or lubricate all moving parts and gears on both. This is my method.

mermaid 06-28-2017 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by Gay (Post 7852853)
ditto - cjsews - I didn't think the needle shaft that goes up an down needed oiling. After all, we're told not to oil anything as it happens automatically.
I would like to find out how to get the covers of so I can blow out the dust bunnies, but my manual doesn't show me that

Gay..never blow out the dust from your machine..you can so easily blow some of it INTO the machine and cause some real problems. I use my vacuum cleaner with the smallest suction tip....I actually have a very small tip for reversing and blowing up bags, etc.
Re oiling, actually most computerized machines have silicone parts and oil can be destroying to them, but there are a few places that you can oil. For instance my emb machines say "do not oil". As I stood over my dealer repairman, I saw him put a little oil in the bobbin race with his finger--I said "you are not supposed to use oil". He replied, "i'm the repair expert" and went on to say just a bit in that location was a good thing.

Weezy Rider 06-28-2017 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by Peckish (Post 7852965)
Told by whom? It all depends on your machine. You should do what your manual says. My Brother PQ1500's manual says to oil, and has illustrations that show the specific spots to oil and how often. My Brother SE 270D's manual says NOT to oil, because it's sealed and is self-oiling.

If I oiled after so many hours, the machine never dried out. I took the base off and it was dripping. I wasn't over oiling, I found a oiler I could squeeze and see that only one drop was coming out. I took it off since the dealer didn't repair the feed dog selections right. All they knew was up and down.
They prefer to sell the big Brother embroidery machines. They are also the Juki dealers. I'm taking mine to the Babylock dealer who used to do Pfaffs of all shapes and kinds. He seems to have more mechanical sense. I'd rather have the service done right, than a warranty honored. It's too much of a pain to get warranty work done right if the dealer has had enough.

Peckish 06-28-2017 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by mermaid (Post 7853159)
I use my vacuum cleaner with the smallest suction tip....I actually have a very small tip for reversing and blowing up bags, etc.

Harbor Freight has a cool little add-on vacuum kit that is very handy for this, I think I paid about $10 for it. :thumbup:

selm 06-28-2017 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by Onebyone (Post 7852986)
If you have a self oiling machine, the manufacturer assumes you will be taking it in for check up as the manual suggests. The machine will get a good oiling or dose of silicone to last until next maint check up. The machine will not last forever with no lubrication to keep it self oiled.

Exactly! My Babylock Espire manual states not to oil but when I took a class about machine maintenance we were told to put a drop of oil in the center of the bobbin area periodically.

Garden Gnome 06-28-2017 07:58 AM

I bought an inexpensive computerized Singer several years ago. When doing maintenance once, I found what I thought was lint way down under the bobbin case. I got tweezers to pull it out--it was some kind of lubricant-soaked wadding stuck in there. Researching online, I found out it was not supposed to be removed, but no help at all on what to do if it was removed in error. Even Singer was no help.
I stuck it back in as well as I could, and it sewed just fine. Still does.

Onebyone 07-18-2017 04:52 AM

Machine back home from repair. One new part (hook) and everything had to be reset. It sews like new. Labor 204.99. Part $18.45. Pack of needles (he used one to test the machine from the pack) $4.99. 3 hour round trip.

rryder 07-18-2017 03:28 PM

Yippee! Glad it could be fixed.

Rob

slbram17 07-18-2017 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by Onebyone (Post 7865890)
Machine back home from repair. One new part (hook) and everything had to be reset. It sews like new. Labor 204.99. Part $18.45. Pack of needles (he used one to test the machine from the pack) $4.99. 3 hour round trip.

Good to know....3 hour round trip doesn't sound good but at least you have it back and working.

Onebyone 07-19-2017 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by slbram17 (Post 7866355)
Good to know....3 hour round trip doesn't sound good but at least you have it back and working.

Really no biggie to drive that far. I do most of my shopping 1 1/2 away but in the opposite direction in another town. The town I live in now has nothing to offer a quilter.


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