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Machine Recommendations
Good afternoon!
Today my mother surprised me with an offer to purchase me a new machine for my birthday next month. Right now I'm piecing and machine quilting on a $100 ancient Brother. I think I would enjoy Free Motion Quilting, but the thought of being able to edge to edge quilt with an embroidery machine is awfully appealing as well (in theory). I tried Free Motion on my ancient Brother (it technically can do it), but became overwhelmingly frustrated at constant thread tension issues, which is why I'm drawn to the idea of using embroidery machines to 'cheat' and get perfect beautiful designs. I've also been toying with the ideas of using the 'fancy' stitches (embroidery stitches?) that are available on most models to machine quilt something interesting in the background, but I'm not sure that it would look very nice. I have a tiny house and a neat freak husband, so I'm constantly unpacking and repacking my sewing stuff onto the kitchen table, so portability is a must at this stage. Anyway, enough rambling, I'm curious what your recommendations are for machines I should put on my wish list. Thanks everyone! |
Do you have any idea of the price range?
For a portable sewing machine, you may want to look at the Brother CS6000i: https://www.amazon.com/Brother-Featu...dp/B000JQM1DE/ This machine has been around for quite awhile, and a lot of quilters on the QB like it. It has quite a few embroidery stitches. A lot of quilters also like the Janome Jem line for a portable sewing machine: https://www.amazon.com/Janome-Sewing...dp/B015YCBJN0/ Be aware that any portable machine is going to have a small harp (the area under the arm), making it difficult to quilt larger than lap-size, twin-size quilts. A newer machine on the market that gets great reviews is Eversewn. Here is a link to their top-of-the-line machine: https://www.amazon.com/EverSewn-Spar...dp/B073QYJY3Y/ (Honestly, the color and reviews alone on this one would tempt me to buy it if I had any excuse to do so.) All of the above machines come with decorative stitches. I would not consider buying an embroidery machine until you first have a better quality sewing machine to work on. Later on, you may want to consider getting a Brother PE770, which is a good starter embroidery machine. Combo machines (sewing + embroidery) tend to be more expensive. Sewing machines with bigger harps tend to be heavier, bigger, and less portable. Edit: Do not get rid of your old machine if you can help it. It's always a good idea to have an old workhorse machine as a backup. Most of the newer machines do not last as long as the vintage machines. |
Yay for you!! You have an awesome, generous mom. Do you have a budget to work with?
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I've seen Janome given as prizes for quilt competitions, but maybe they are just generous sponsers.
If I were to get another machine to supplement my beloved Bernina from the mid '70's, it would be a lightweight portable to take to workshops. A lot has to do with what you need -- try visiting a couple of stores and spending time trying out what's available. |
Budget would allow us an idea of what to recommend I love my brother embroidery machine but wouldn't call it portable as it is large and heavy
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As mentioned you need the portability of a smaller machine, as you state you have to pack/unpack your sewing projects due to space constraints and neat freak dh.......and full embroidery/sewing machine combos are large, heavy and really need to be planted, imho.......
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how much money is the first question.... I love Janomes. I have a 6600 and a Magnolia 7330 to take places with me - I recommend that one for sure :)
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Originally Posted by Prism99
(Post 8025354)
Do you have any idea of the price range?
For a portable sewing machine, you may want to look at the Brother CS6000i: https://www.amazon.com/Brother-Featu...dp/B000JQM1DE/ This machine has been around for quite awhile, and a lot of quilters on the QB like it. It has quite a few embroidery stitches. A newer machine on the market that gets great reviews is Eversewn. Here is a link to their top-of-the-line machine: https://www.amazon.com/EverSewn-Spar...dp/B073QYJY3Y/ (Honestly, the color and reviews alone on this one would tempt me to buy it if I had any excuse to do so.) Edit: Do not get rid of your old machine if you can help it. It's always a good idea to have an old workhorse machine as a backup. Most of the newer machines do not last as long as the vintage machines. Onebyone has talked about the Sparrow on this site and it sure sounds good to me. If I were in the market for a new machine, I would try it out first. |
What a wonderful gift from your Mom!
Without knowing your budget I recently bought a TLJuki 2101Q for machine quilting and I love it. It runs around 900.00. However, it is straight stitch only. My Bernina has all the fancy stuff but they are pricey. |
She didn't mention a budget, but when I started looking, I was kind of drawn to the Jukki HZL-F600 (being able to drop my heel and cut the thread sounds amazing!) or the Janome Memory Craft 6500P (Janome is the only local dealer) if I were going to be purchasing something that could do a bit of everything. I think if it went over $1000 I would feel so guilty I'd pay for most of it myself. Let's say under $1500? She just invested in a $3000 Janome (not sure which) that is designed more for embroidery and less for quilting, so if, in theory, I wanted to embroider something, I have access to a machine.
I know that straight stitch machines are most common for quilters, however I want to try applique techniques and would need a zig-zag stitch, if I'm not mistaken? The biggest complaint I have with my Brother are 1) the foot pedal has little speed control 2) I barely had enough room to maneuver an oversized lap blanket 3) it was impossible to even try to free motion quilt very much To me, portability means it will fit in some kind of sewing machine bag and isn't much more than 35 lbs. |
It seems like you want two opposing things. You want a large harp for quilting (which means a larger, not portable machine) and you want portability. If I were you I think I'd take a long look around to see if there was a space somewhere where you could permanently keep a machine on a desk and give up the portability, maybe in a basement, spare bedroom, etc. Then you could buy the machine you really need and not worry about lugging it around every time you feel creative or have some time to quilt.
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You would not be disappointed in a Janome 6600 MC if you had a $1000 budget. It has a 9-inch throat space and I take it to Sit & Sews and classes nearly every week. It has a library of embroidery stitches but is great for FMQ. Good luck in your decision. New machines are so much fun...
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i don't have any knowledge of the above machines, but they all seem to have a good reputation, but one thing I would like to say is, stay away from any new or low end Singer. The tension problem on your Brother might possibly be you moving the quilt too fast and/or too slow.
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I love all 4 of my Brothers. If you can get to a dealer, trying out the machines is the best. And a dealer will possibly have trade ins, which can give you more bang for the buck and support if needed.
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Originally Posted by jmoore
(Post 8025718)
You would not be disappointed in a Janome 6600 MC if you had a $1000 budget. It has a 9-inch throat space and I take it to Sit & Sews and classes nearly every week. It has a library of embroidery stitches but is great for FMQ. Good luck in your decision. New machines are so much fun...
What does it mean by "dual feed presser foot?" A walking foot? What is an External dual feed adjuster? What does a knee lift do? My MIL's ancient cabinet Pfaff had a knee control rather than a foot pedal and I hated it. But this isn't a cabinet model, so it can't be that. What is a twin needle guard? I know about using twin needles on my White, but the guard part has me baffled. |
Check with your Mom...tell her you were looking at machines and wondered what her budget is. Then go and test the Janomes. They have a wide variety. The 6600 is a workhorse of a machine. The accufeed is a built in walking foot, gives you more visibility than a separate walking foot. Lots of decorative stitches. There are sever Janome yahoo groups out there that can also answer questions. I have Janome 6600, Janome Skyline 7, 11000SE, 8900,and now the 15000 (embroidery/quilting) that one is top of the line. Ask your dealer for sales, show specials or gently owned and you can find great pricing.....but call your Mom first.
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Originally Posted by jmoore
(Post 8025718)
You would not be disappointed in a Janome 6600 MC if you had a $1000 budget. It has a 9-inch throat space and I take it to Sit & Sews and classes nearly every week. It has a library of embroidery stitches but is great for FMQ. Good luck in your decision. New machines are so much fun...
Originally Posted by JustAbitCrazy
(Post 8025700)
It seems like you want two opposing things. You want a large harp for quilting (which means a larger, not portable machine) and you want portability. If I were you I think I'd take a long look around to see if there was a space somewhere where you could permanently keep a machine on a desk and give up the portability, maybe in a basement, spare bedroom, etc. Then you could buy the machine you really need and not worry about lugging it around every time you feel creative or have some time to quilt.
Originally Posted by IceLeopard
(Post 8025809)
What does it mean by "dual feed presser foot?" A walking foot?
What is an External dual feed adjuster? What does a knee lift do? My MIL's ancient cabinet Pfaff had a knee control rather than a foot pedal and I hated it. But this isn't a cabinet model, so it can't be that. What is a twin needle guard? I know about using twin needles on my White, but the guard part has me baffled. |
From what I can find, the throat space on the Eversewn is 7.5" which is fairly generous. I'd like to try it also, but with my Pfaff (and we don't travel) I have no excuse to!
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The Eversewn Hero is sewing and embroidery machine. Here is a link. http://www.eversewn.com/hero/
I read several bloggers that used this machine and no bad reviews at all. I haven't seen it in person though. The price is under $600. I would buy it from Amazon and test it out. You can return if you aren't sure about it. I will say using embroidery for quilting isn't a simple process. For a regular non embroidery machine I would suggest the Sparrow 30. |
Absolutely love my new Janome Skyline 5!!!! Had a Baby Lock Quilters Choice for several years and had nothing but one problem after another with it!!!! Wouldn't give you two cents for any Baby Lock machine, but boy, oh boy, my Janome is just as nice as the Bernina I had for years and far more affordable!!!!
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a lot depends on how close the dealer is and guarentees
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Are you close to Fort Wayne? Fabulous Janome dealer there. (Edwards Sewing Center). Great for service after the sale too. Free lessons and very good service guy.
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I agree with several of the others, you would love the Janome 6600, or even the 6500, or 6300 if $$$ is much of a limitation. They have an almost 9" bed and the extra space is essential of you want to make larger quilts. The 6600 has the built in walking foot, which really makes straight line stitching even top and bottom. These machines (and the newest 6700) have a heavy duty steel bed....you can feel the quality there. They all have 7mm stitch with a ss plate available....and many additional feet.
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Another vote for the Janome 6600. I have had mine for 10 years and never have had any problems. Made so many quilts that I have lost count, not to mention all the other sewing I have done. It has lots of features that make sewing/quilting a breeze. It weighs about 25 lbs which is easy enough to move around. I take it to retreats, classes, etc. but I have a rolling cart to carry it in.
Janome just came out with a 6700 which is an "upgrade" to the 6600 and you may find a bargain on the 6600. I suggest you go to the Janome website and see all the features this machine has as well as others. Don't be put off by the MSRP listing, bargains can be found and deals made. Good luck in your search and with your new machine! here is a link to a discussion on this board on the 6600 last August. https://www.quiltingboard.com/main-f...p-t290367.html Murphy |
Originally Posted by sef0181
(Post 8025618)
She didn't mention a budget, but when I started looking, I was kind of drawn to the Jukki HZL-F600 (being able to drop my heel and cut the thread sounds amazing!) or the Janome Memory Craft 6500P (Janome is the only local dealer) if I were going to be purchasing something that could do a bit of everything. I think if it went over $1000 I would feel so guilty I'd pay for most of it myself. Let's say under $1500? She just invested in a $3000 Janome (not sure which) that is designed more for embroidery and less for quilting, so if, in theory, I wanted to embroider something, I have access to a machine.
I know that straight stitch machines are most common for quilters, however I want to try applique techniques and would need a zig-zag stitch, if I'm not mistaken? The biggest complaint I have with my Brother are 1) the foot pedal has little speed control 2) I barely had enough room to maneuver an oversized lap blanket 3) it was impossible to even try to free motion quilt very much To me, portability means it will fit in some kind of sewing machine bag and isn't much more than 35 lbs. |
Babylock Jazz for large throat area
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It's really difficult to recommend without knowing how much your mom has in mind to spend on it. If your mom is a quilter/sewer, maybe she has an idea of what prices are these days, but otherwise, she may be in for a shock.
I would stay away from computerized Singers. I bought one 5 years ago and when the main circuit board encountered a glitch 3 months after I bought it, the warranty covered it, but it took many weeks to get the part, and the shop was an hour and a half away. It has been a good machine for me since then, but that was not a pleasant experience at the outset. Before you buy any machine find out where you'd have to go for service. Expensive machines should be bought in a store near you that offers free lessons as well as technical support. Not all authorized dealers have warranty certified repair personnel. |
Originally Posted by sef0181
(Post 8025321)
Good afternoon!
Today my mother surprised me with an offer to purchase me a new machine for my birthday next month. Right now I'm piecing and machine quilting on a $100 ancient Brother. I think I would enjoy Free Motion Quilting, but the thought of being able to edge to edge quilt with an embroidery machine is awfully appealing as well (in theory). I tried Free Motion on my ancient Brother (it technically can do it), but became overwhelmingly frustrated at constant thread tension issues, which is why I'm drawn to the idea of using embroidery machines to 'cheat' and get perfect beautiful designs. I've also been toying with the ideas of using the 'fancy' stitches (embroidery stitches?) that are available on most models to machine quilt something interesting in the background, but I'm not sure that it would look very nice. I have a tiny house and a neat freak husband, so I'm constantly unpacking and repacking my sewing stuff onto the kitchen table, so portability is a must at this stage. Anyway, enough rambling, I'm curious what your recommendations are for machines I should put on my wish list. Thanks everyone! Check out The Crafty Gemini. She did a series of embroidery classes online and had machine recommendations that were not expensive. I think they were Brother. She is great and has good ideas. That being said I love my Bernina with the embroidery module!!!! |
My Janome 6600 fits into a rolling bag from JoAnn. Its not too heavy to lift, but heavier than the Brother Project Runway I keep for classes etc.
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Have you thought about checking with a few dealers and seeing if someone has traded in a machine in order to upgrade. See if the dealer would throw some classes in as a bonus. Is there even a closet space that you could leave your machine set up? Just a few ideas.
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Thanks again for all the wonderful tips! I hope others will find these suggestions in the future!
I went out to test drive some machines, and my local (within a few miles from home) Janome dealer had a lovely Memory Craft 7700 that was appropriately serviced all it's life that he parted with for $1000, plus free classes and a free tune up in a year. This made both my mom and I happy. So to anyone who is shopping, definitely heed the suggestions of not being afraid to a) test drive machines and b) buy 'certified' used from a dealer you trust! |
Congratulations - happy stitching! And be sure to show us pics of your work :)
Christine |
Originally Posted by sef0181
(Post 8031011)
Thanks again for all the wonderful tips! I hope others will find these suggestions in the future!
I went out to test drive some machines, and my local (within a few miles from home) Janome dealer had a lovely Memory Craft 7700 that was appropriately serviced all it's life that he parted with for $1000, plus free classes and a free tune up in a year. This made both my mom and I happy. So to anyone who is shopping, definitely heed the suggestions of not being afraid to a) test drive machines and b) buy 'certified' used from a dealer you trust! |
Thanks for the original post and all of the answers. I'm going window shopping tomorrow -armed with a list.
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