# Metric Quilting Help Needed

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• 07-15-2011, 10:13 AM
PJane1031
Hey, All!!

BRAND new to the Board--referred by a friend. I'm in the process of starting a quilt for a friend, and would welcome ANY advice you can offer!!

She purchased a quilt kit for a pattern called "Summertime" at a shop in the Netherlands several years ago, and asked me to complete it for her. One hiccup--the instructions were written in Dutch!! No big deal, I contacted the store that she bought it from--they didn't have an English translation, but did have the instructions in German, and while not 'fluent' I grew up in a household that spoke it a little, so was more comfortable trying to translate instructions from there.

I also decided to invest in a metric quilting ruler so that I wouldn't need to try to convert the sizes into inches, so that will be a fun challenge, too!

That being said, I'm stuck on one part, and not sure if seam allowances are included in my cutting instructions, or if I need to add more fabric. In the 'Overview' section, it talks about 8 cm squares & 4 cm squares, and strips of 2x8 cm. THEN, it goes on to say: "All measurements are without seam allowance (0.75 cm seam allowance on each side this type)" So I'm confused. Does that mean I need to ADD 1.5 cm to all of my measurements, or is the 8cm squares unfinished?

Any/all advice would be GREATLY appreciated!!

TIA!

Pam
• 07-15-2011, 10:20 AM
PaperPrincess
HMM. don't know what to tell you. Can you post the exact German text? Maybe a native speaker can 'read in' to the instructions.
Another idea is get some inexpensive fabric and make a sample block to verify. Actually a sample block is a good idea for any quilt.
• 07-15-2011, 10:22 AM
MTS
Quote:

Originally Posted by PJane1031
So I'm confused. Does that mean I need to ADD 1.5 cm to all of my measurements, or is the 8cm squares unfinished?
Pam

Hi Pam,
Welcome!

Yes, I would interpret that (in any language) to mean you need to add the seam allowances to the sizes given.

Those are some pretty small pieces!

I would suggest, however, that you always read through the entire set of directions to make sure that it makes sense.

Sometimes the folks writing the patterns aren't the best communicators (and that applies to all languages).
• 07-15-2011, 10:30 AM
PJane1031
I actually am going to do a 'mock-up' of the quilt top with fabrics from my stash--the finished size of the piece is only 110 cm (43"), but even when cutting into my fabric, I don't want to 'waste' a whole lot there, either!!

The line I quoted is written:
Alle Masse sind ohne Nahtzugabe (Nahtzugabe 0,75 cm je Seite dazugeben.)

I think I am going to plan on adding the 1.5--I can always cut stuff down (on my mock-up one), but it'll be harder to add to it!
• 07-15-2011, 10:33 AM
Holice
With such an emphatic statement I would say you need to add seam allowance. Also suggest you make up a block first and test it for size etc. then you will know for sure.
• 07-15-2011, 10:37 AM
Holice
Is it an easy pattern that you could redraft in inches and have enough fabric in the kit to make it. As to stitching seam allowance.......arn't the needle positions on machines set at metrics even tho we assume inches.
• 07-15-2011, 10:38 AM
PJane1031
I am with everyone on a test block. Thanks for the feedback!!
• 07-15-2011, 10:40 AM
PJane1031
Quote:

Originally Posted by Holice
Is it an easy pattern that you could redraft in inches and have enough fabric in the kit to make it. As to stitching seam allowance.......arn't the needle positions on machines set at metrics even tho we assume inches.

I'm not sure on that one, and my dad did sewing machine repairs for years before he died, so one would think that I'd know that, but I don't!! The 3,4, 5, 6 marks on my machine are 1/8" indicators, but maybe I'll have to pull out my instruction manual to double-check, too!! Thanks!! :)
• 07-15-2011, 10:47 AM
Quote:

Originally Posted by PJane1031
The line I quoted is written:
Alle Masse sind ohne Nahtzugabe (Nahtzugabe 0,75 cm je Seite dazugeben.)

You are correct in that you need to add 1.5cm to everything. "All measurements are without seam allowance. Add .75cm per side."

So the 8cm block is FINISHED 8 cm, unfinished 9.5 cm
• 07-15-2011, 10:50 AM
PJane1031
Thanks, Martina!!
• 07-15-2011, 10:59 AM
cinnya
Quote:

Originally Posted by PJane1031
I actually am going to do a 'mock-up' of the quilt top with fabrics from my stash--the finished size of the piece is only 110 cm (43"), but even when cutting into my fabric, I don't want to 'waste' a whole lot there, either!!

The line I quoted is written:
Alle Masse sind ohne Nahtzugabe (Nahtzugabe 0,75 cm je Seite dazugeben.)

I think I am going to plan on adding the 1.5--I can always cut stuff down (on my mock-up one), but it'll be harder to add to it!

Yes you have to add the seam allowance
• 07-15-2011, 06:01 PM
sewmagic
I'm German, what exactly does it say in german?? Maybe i can help with translating.
• 07-15-2011, 06:03 PM
sewmagic
"Ohne Nahtzugabe" means "without seamallowance" so, yes add the 1.5 cm.
• 07-15-2011, 06:07 PM
TonnieLoree
You guys are awesome with your translations!
• 07-15-2011, 06:24 PM
blueangel
Welcome from Kansas
• 07-15-2011, 09:27 PM
PJane1031
Thank you all for the warm welcome and for all your help!!

I added 1.5 cm on all sides, and it 'appears' to be working. I have all the pieces on my 'test' quilt cut, and started to sew 'em together, but decided to call it a night for now!! Hopefully I'll get the rest of the top assembled tomorrow, and I'll feel comfortable enough to start on the one for my friend!! I just don't want to make mis-cuts on hers--no way to get more fabric if I do!!
• 07-15-2011, 09:32 PM
OneMoreQuilt
Welcome from Illinois!
• 07-15-2011, 11:25 PM
gale
Just wanted to say welcome too! I am gale at SCS and I started the quilting thread over there (many moons ago).
• 07-15-2011, 11:27 PM
PJane1031
Hello, OneMoreQuilt!! Nice to meet you!

Gale, nice to see you here, too!!
• 07-15-2011, 11:34 PM
Tirolgirl
Your instructions mean: seam allowances NOT included, you have to add them on.
If you need more help with German, PM me and I'll help.
Uki
• 07-16-2011, 03:18 AM
pinot
just saw your post and you've already had a lot of help I see. If you have more things not clear I could help, I'm from The Netherlands.
Just PM me, Pinot
• 07-16-2011, 08:46 AM
newbiequilter
Quote:

Originally Posted by PJane1031
I actually am going to do a 'mock-up' of the quilt top with fabrics from my stash--the finished size of the piece is only 110 cm (43"), but even when cutting into my fabric, I don't want to 'waste' a whole lot there, either!!

The line I quoted is written:
Alle Masse sind ohne Nahtzugabe (Nahtzugabe 0,75 cm je Seite dazugeben.)

I think I am going to plan on adding the 1.5--I can always cut stuff down (on my mock-up one), but it'll be harder to add to it!

I have not read thru all the posting, but the translation from FreeTranslations.com is:

All measurements are without seam allowance (0.75 cm seam allowance on each side to give.)
• 07-16-2011, 09:02 AM
joeyoz
Sounds like the are without seam allowance. You need to add seam allowance.
• 07-16-2011, 09:39 AM
rosiewell
being from Italy and familiar with the metric system I would say you need to add 1.5 cm to the pattern before sewing it.
• 07-16-2011, 10:47 AM
chuckbere15