mini/toy machine
 

Need help.
Just saw one in an antique or toy machine.didn't seem to have a bobbin.said singer in a gold raised metal seal.
lady said it was a toy, but an actual sewing machine. On top metal parts, it had numbers to know where to thread. Excellent condition. No chips of paint
Crank turned beautifully. In size a out 10" x 7-8". It had a toy box, the old fashioned ones with the bottom the same size as the top.
printed old fashioned and yellowing. No serial number on the machine. She said it wasnt a repro, they dont make them anymore. Well, i know they make dups right????.
The price was $95.00 with a 25% discount.
what do you think of price and how to tell if its real or a repro. Thanks so much in advance.

Serial number might be under the machine.

No bobbin because it's a chain stitch.

I got one for Christmas, too cute still have the needle in it

Thanks, thought t might be a chain st.
No serial number anyplace. Cked under, nothing. Like i said, she was sweet. Nice paint jon and the brass (?) Plate rivited on.
Does anyone onow the value of a toy or mini machine.

I'm cheap. :) I paid $3 for mine but she needs a little work - she has a crack where it shouldn't be. :(

Seriously, value is in the eye of the beholder.

I don't find the toy machines much in my area so, if it pleases you and you don't see them often in your area then it's probably worth it to pick it up. I really hate to pay for shipping things........ plus I'd rather support my local shops.

PS I just checked my model 24 (toy) machine. My serial number is on a brass plate on the back just above the base.

If you look at the 'back' photo on this page you can just barely see the brass plate (similar to other vintage Singer brass serial number plates): http://www.singersewinginfo.co.uk/24/

Thanks mom
from a bit of lookinv ebay and such, i see its a model 20 or a 20-10.
The store is a rixe for me about 40 min away. Necer saw one like this except for one at a cfiends whos was originally at herd grands sewing factory in about the 30's to 40' s. Its about $77 with tsx. Looks sharp. No table clamp that i ciuld see.
thanks for your help.

Ah, model 20 - missing the clamp - that changes things.

Yes, you could set it on the shelf for a 'pretty'. I prefer to be able to use my machines.

Without the clamp you can't run the hand crank (wheel) to actually use it.

Decisions, decisions, decisions........

Sheesh, another ps.......

You might be able to find a "C" clamp in a hardware that could substitue.......

Thanks mom3
Whats another ps.is that part ofthe machine or a post s ript.
sooo in your opinion, whats its worth, and can i use that as a bargaining tool.
It might sit in my cabinet, kinda like a normal persons ( read...non sewing) hummel.

ps postscript

Barganing tool yes - they probably don't even know the "C" clamp is missing so if/when you go back take info with you to show them.

In my humble opinion "Hummel" sounds good. :)

My 24 is a "Hummel" right now - unless I can figure out how to fix it. :)

Singer "Hummel's" are still pretty. :)

I don't know what you want to use the machine for, but I bought a small child's sewing machine from WalMart. It can be used with electricity or battery. Depending on where we camp, I take mine in the trailer so that I can sew and relax. It's kind of noisy, but sews pretty good. I like it and it only cost $20.

I like it bc its old, cute, tiny, has a great history and just because. I might bring it to friends to sew. Its just one of those things

One my 24, it doesn't require a "C" clamp. It has holes in the base that allow it to be screwed down to a wooden base or cabinet. Maybe the 20 has similar holes that could be used. You'd have to counter balance it somehow.