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wesing 05-10-2010 07:29 PM

OK, I know you're tired of hearing my requests, but I am ready to throw this machine through a window!

We have quilted 1 quilt on our GrandQuilter. We had lots of issues, and even took the machine to the shop. We got all our issues worked out and finished quilting the first quilt. It looks great (if you don't look too close) and I'm sure the 5-year-old it's going to will never notice the problems with it.

We took that one off the frame and put the next one on. We were so excited because we learned a lot on the first quilt and just knew the second one would go much better. We got one row almost quilted and had a thread break about 8" from the end of the row. I re-threaded and finished the row, then moved to the next row. About a foot into the row the thread broke. I "unsewed," rethreaded, and started sewing again, but got another break. I pulled thread and bobbin, cleaned the bobbin area, wound a new bobbin, rethreaded everything, and started sewing again. At the beginning it skipped about 3 stitches, then quilted fine for 3 or 4 inches, then broke the thread again.

I'm embarrassed to call the shop again, but I may have to do it. One thing we discovered is that we thought we had bought 100% cotton thread for practice and then for the first quilt. When I looked closely I discovered that they are both 100% polyester. That means I completely quilted Eli's quilt with 100% polyester thread. Oh well, too late to do anything about it now.

The current quilt is being quilted with Connecting Threads thread that is 100% cotton. I bought several spools based on recommendations from this board. That could be my problem. If it is, I am fine with switching back to polyester if that's what it takes. I'd really rather stick with cotton but at this point I HAVE to get some quilts done. Will I be ok with polyester thread? I have read that it will eventually damage the cotton - is that true?

Can anyone think of anything else that could be my problem? I have adjusted tension, but if I loosen it, I get loops on the bottom, and if I tighten it, I get a break immediately.

Thanks in advance,

Darren

virtualbernie 05-10-2010 07:36 PM

Can't help with any of your other problems but I have heard that polyester thread is stronger than cotton and will cut into the quilt over time. Maybe your machine will like cotton covered polyester thread?

Ripped on Scotch 05-10-2010 07:59 PM

I was in a lecture about threads & she said there is no issue using polyester thread. I would take hundreds of years to do anything to the material. If you have issues with the grand quilter you should ask the store. They can help.

kwiltkrazy 05-10-2010 08:17 PM

Did you change your needle?

Scissor Queen 05-10-2010 08:59 PM

My guild has the GrandQuilter. Mostly we've discovered you need to slow down to keep the thread from breaking. We also discovered the prewound bobbins work very well for minimal tension problems.

Prism99 05-10-2010 10:03 PM

The homequiltingsystems group at http://groups.yahoo.com is a great resource for problem resolution. You might want to join.

Bob at Superior Thread demonstrates that polyester thread is not necessarily stronger than cotton thread. There's a video at his website. These days it doesn't seem to make a difference whether you use cotton thread or polyester thread, although brand and type may make a difference.

QuiltingQueen 05-11-2010 03:15 AM

I don't know much about your machine or quilting but I would suggest changing spools of thread. I had picked up a spool of thread to do applique and it broke...broke... broke. I went and bought a new spool and had no problem. I was told thread gets old and when it does it breaks.

Good luck... I know it must be very frustrating.

mytwopals 05-11-2010 06:27 AM

Are you using the same thread on top and in the bobbin? What size thread is it? Is the needle too small or too large for that thread? Is your quilt level with the bed of the machine and less than a pinky finger's distance above it? What speed setting is your machine on (high, medium, low)? Is it the top thread or bottom thread, which is breaking? If it is the top thread, how many holes are you threading the machine through in the pretensioner? Is it a normal spool type or cone type thread? Are you using the telescoping vertical thread guide?

Pam 05-11-2010 07:20 AM

Try removing the clamps from the ends of the fabric, there may be too much tension from them.

DA Mayer 05-11-2010 07:24 AM

Your machine is different than mine, do you have the quilt rolled correctly on the bars and if the quilt is rolled too taut the thread will break also. A professional quilter told me she use embroidery needles or topstitch needles.

tarbender30 05-12-2010 09:46 AM

I don't know anything about your machine but I do know that my sewing machine does NOT like poly thread AT ALL!! If I put poly on and thread it up and start sewing, the thread will break, bunch up,you name it and it does it. So now the only thread I can use in my machine is the thread from Connecting Threads. Seems like sewing machines sometimes have a mind of their own. lol
Good Luck
Bev

JoyVoltenburg 05-12-2010 10:07 AM

when I change thread types (from poly to cotton), I need to adjust the tension settings each time. It sounds like the top tension is too tight. If you are getting loops on the back after loosening the top tension, then try loosening the bobbin tension. Also, poly thread will not harm your quilt. That's pretty much an old wive's tale. It's "generally" stronger than cotton, but it won't tear the fabric.

zz-pd 05-12-2010 03:42 PM

sorry I cant help. Good luck and God bless. Penny

Pam 05-12-2010 04:02 PM

Please PM me and let me know how it goes! I am ready to get started with mine.

Linda1 05-12-2010 04:45 PM

I don't have a Grand Quilter but I have a 20 year old Design a quilt machine and I was ready to throw it out. Every thing I did seemed to make the thread break. I found a small bur on my throat plate will really cause a lot of grief. As I said my machine is old but you will learn all the quirks of it and love it later. I do use poly thread and it seems to do really good for years of washing , loving and dragging around by babies and adults.

hcarpanini 05-12-2010 04:56 PM

Make sure that your quilt is not to tightly rolled. Even if you think it is loosen just a bit. I use all kinds of thread on my Handi Quilter. My favorite is Isacord embroidery thread. I mix threads too. Cotton on the top and poly in the bobbin. Let us know how you make out.

Bettia 05-12-2010 05:23 PM

wesing, I feel for you, same thing happened to me. I have a different machine.
I know when I tried mine the first time I wanted to throw it away too.
I put two white flat sheets and batting together like I was making a quilt (so not to ruin a quilt). I did all the same things you probably did. Called everyone that I thought new anything about sewing. Nothing helped.
Finally after a few days, it just out of the blue, started sewing right.
No more thread breaks.
I believe we just need to learn to get our arm movement syncronized with the speed and stitch length. I don't know if this makes sense.
What I did was, begin with a slower speed on my machine and the movement of my arm and slowly increased the speed and movement of my arm to keep the stitches even in length
Practice, practice, practice.
I practiced different stitches until I quilted the whole piece, then used it for a mattress pad.
Good luck.


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