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fleurdelisquilts.com 06-18-2010 09:25 PM

I just responded to "embarassed" about cleaning and oiling sewing machines. (It's the really long answer.) I realized that I am extremely lucky to be married to a sewing machine mechanic. Since I'm an avid quilter/seamstress, we talk "shop" all the time. Then the thought occurred to me: some of you may have questions you'd love to be able to ask him. He'll never consider getting on the computer, but I don't mind being the mediator, if you don't mind getting answers through a third person. That said, if you have general questions about your sewing machine, post it and we'll give it a whirl. I can't promise answers to every question, especially since he may not have seen your particular brand. Remember, he worked at a factory on industry machines. But we'll do what we can to help or at least should be able to tell you whether you have an urgent problem that should be seen by a pro right away.

amma 06-18-2010 09:27 PM

What a very kind and generous offer!!! Thank you :D:D:D

sharon b 06-18-2010 09:30 PM

Why THANK YOU and him :thumbup: What a nice offer :lol:

Gerbie 06-18-2010 10:03 PM

Well what a generous offer. Thanks to both of you. I don't have a question just yet, but may in the near future. I just purchased a 1937 FW from Ebay and I know it needs a good cleaning. I did buy the cds and book that Dave McCullum puts out, to try and do my own thing. I have a Bernina I bought in 1985 that I use all the time, and I keep it cleaned and oiled all the time. I have always oiled my machines and kept the fuzzies cleaned out. I am lucky enough that I have never had to take it in to a repair man. Better knock on wood on that. I try to keep my machines cleaned. I always think of my car, oil changes and air filters, always need both clean, so I try to do the same with my sewing machines. However, all this being said should I have a question about either of these I will be using mainly I will definitely post and ASK. Tell dear hubby that if he can work on sewing machines, he can definitely tackle this computer toy. lol.
But either way, I don't mind going through you for questions and answers. Thanks to both of you for the offer. Gerbie

dkabasketlady 06-19-2010 05:13 AM

What a generous offer!! Your DH may be busier than he thinks once everyone reads this great post!!

Hi and welcome from the sunny state of Florida!!

Charlee 06-19-2010 05:34 AM

WOOHOO!! Thanks so much for the offer!! :)

I have a Kenmore that the feeddogs don't work properly on...they move and "cycle", but they don't drop below the plate, so that all they do is move the fabric back and forth with no progression. I've downloaded a service manual for it, torn into it, and checked for a lint buildup under the dogs...nothing. I've adjusted the height of the dogs to it's lowest point...nothing.

Any other suggestions? It was my mom's machine, I'd love to be able to use it!

BKrenning 06-19-2010 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by Charlee
WOOHOO!! Thanks so much for the offer!! :)

I have a Kenmore that the feeddogs don't work properly on...they move and "cycle", but they don't drop below the plate, so that all they do is move the fabric back and forth with no progression. I've downloaded a service manual for it, torn into it, and checked for a lint buildup under the dogs...nothing. I've adjusted the height of the dogs to it's lowest point...nothing.

Any other suggestions? It was my mom's machine, I'd love to be able to use it!

I have a Singer that does that sometimes. It's like the lever doesn't raise them all the way up, though--not down. I just keep fiddling with the lever and they eventually work. Of course this fix may not work forever so it probably should be checked out but to me it seems like the lever that raises & lowers the feed dogs is catching on something so they don't raise all the way up.

Candace 06-19-2010 07:53 AM

My question to a sewing mechanic would be this. "How do you actually become one? What classes and training are necessary and how do you go about it? Do you need several kinds of certifications or ??"

dglvr 06-19-2010 07:58 AM

Thanks. That could be helpful. Okay I'll ask. I have a Jonome
Memory Craft 4800. My manual is not to clear on the oiling of it. Even though I was told it didn't need oiled I feel it really should be. Alot of times I turn it upside down and take the bottom plate off and clean it out of all the lint but while I have that off is there some places under there that I can oil?
Thank you so much. Your lucky. ;)

dglvr 06-19-2010 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by Candace
My question to a sewing mechanic would be this. "How do you actually become one? What classes and training are necessary and how do you go about it? Do you need several kinds of certifications or ??"

I've tried before to learn how to become a sewing machine repair/maintenance mechanic but came up with: You have to be certified to work on say Bernina so you have to have a quiltshop send you to the place they teach it at(at your expense). Then your only certified to work on those particular machines. If someones machine is under warranty and they have someone non certified to that machine do anything to it it voids the warranties. However if you come up with other options on learning how let me know.
I have to take my machine to a shop that is an hour away.
I even tried the community colleges around and they had nothing.
Great question to ask so hopefully someone will know other ways of learning. I would be very interested. ;)

sewgull 06-19-2010 10:02 AM

Thank you and your kind husband.

Luckynumber7 06-19-2010 10:56 AM

Thank you and your husband for this generous offer, it is very nice of you.

Charlee 06-19-2010 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by BKrenning

Originally Posted by Charlee
WOOHOO!! Thanks so much for the offer!! :)

I have a Kenmore that the feeddogs don't work properly on...they move and "cycle", but they don't drop below the plate, so that all they do is move the fabric back and forth with no progression. I've downloaded a service manual for it, torn into it, and checked for a lint buildup under the dogs...nothing. I've adjusted the height of the dogs to it's lowest point...nothing.

Any other suggestions? It was my mom's machine, I'd love to be able to use it!

I have a Singer that does that sometimes. It's like the lever doesn't raise them all the way up, though--not down. I just keep fiddling with the lever and they eventually work. Of course this fix may not work forever so it probably should be checked out but to me it seems like the lever that raises & lowers the feed dogs is catching on something so they don't raise all the way up.


These are not dogs that drop...there's a plate that goes over them for embroidery and FMQ...

BellaBoo 06-19-2010 11:29 AM

Is he ready for Ask Me sessions? This would be a great category just for questions for him. ADMIN? I bet he will learn a lot about domestic machines too!

fleurdelisquilts.com 06-19-2010 11:49 AM

I didn't expect this many responses in such a short time. I'll start with the how do you become a mechanic question and answer the others when Richard is around. He started working for a garment factory because in our rural area there really weren't many choices. He worked at the lowest position for a few months and then moved up to something else. After a few more months, the bosses noticed his good work ethic and offered him a position as a mechanic. He had a great boss who mentored him and really taught him the basics. Then the company sent him to different places to learn one machine after another. He wasn't afraid to ask for help and he worked hard to learn everything he could. Eventually his boss retired and they asked him to take over as the supervisor. Then when the maintence supervisor left, he took that position as well, which means he was in charge of fixing the machines and making sure the plant had everything it needed to run: heat, elecrical, water, a/c, air, even controlling the pest problem and getting the grass cut came under his wing. But he really liked it and stayed with it until the plant closed a few years ago. He put the final lock on the door and turned the keys over to the new building owner. Surprisingly, many of the mechanics he knows sort of fell into the position the way he did. On the job trainging and specialized training were the way they all learned the job.

Many home machine mechanics are people who worked in the garment industry and then got certified for a particular brand. Few get certified in every brand because it's a long, expensive process. But unless your machine is under warranty, this shouldn't deter you. The older models are basically the same on the inside. Now if your machine is under warranty, definitely go back to the dealer who sold you the machine so that you don't void the warranty. For example, Richard can fix my new Bernina, but I take it to Baton Rouge to get it serviced. A certified guy must be the one to break the seal. Richard fixes and services my older machines because they aren't under warranty. He also answers my questions and helps me decide when to bring in the Bernina. (I had a few problems last year.) Again, never mess with stuff you don't know for certain or haven't be trained to do. A machine can be knocked out of timing just the slightest (a milisecond) and not run quite right, causing skipped or bad stitches, thread breakage, tension issues, and so on. Also, anytime you bring the machine to a mechanic, bring in the manual, any tools that came with it, and a bobbin of thread. You would do well to thread it before bringing it in so that he can check to make sure you are threading it correctly. Even after all these years of sewing and reading the manual, I threaded my new long-arm wrong--I had never heard of double-looping the thread around the tension, how was I to know to do that? Rich caught it right away and now it sews beautifully. I told him the tension was wrong and I wanted him to set it. Who knows what would have happened had I not left the machine threaded.

Again, thanks for the many responses. And hang in there for answers. My mom is very sick but we'll get to your questions eventually

fleurdelisquilts.com 06-19-2010 11:58 AM

I would clean anywhere I can reach and oil the moving parts that are metal (not plastics) and then leave the rest to a pro.

fleurdelisquilts.com 06-19-2010 12:01 PM

Shoot, I thought I answered this one....who knows where I sent that response!

Here goes again, clean the areas you can reach and oil the moving parts that are metal (not plastic), and leave the rest to a professional.

MadQuilter 06-19-2010 12:02 PM

When your hubby checks a machine, does he take a look at the battery case as well? I'm asking because I took my machine in to a repair shop regularly. When the "battery low" message came on, I tried to exchange the battery only to find out that the entire case was corroded shut. It must have taken a long time. I never thought to look - - - suppose I assumed that the shop checked "everything." WRONG!

littlehud 06-19-2010 06:01 PM

That is so sweet. It's nice to know help may be a post away.

blahel 06-19-2010 07:01 PM

thankyou very much for your kind offer for advice. i am sorry to hear that your mum is not well and hope she gets better soon.
Anyhow my question which I did also post in the other thread (i am a bit embarrassed) but thought I would also post in here incase people dont go to the other thread.
In researching how to oil and maintain my Bernina Artista 180 I read that you should only use rotary hook oil (mobil velocite #10) on the rotary hook as normal sewing machine oil will gunk it up as it is too thick. Is this correct?
I have now thoroughly cleaned out the bobbin area but have not oiled it as did not want to damage anything as my machine is my baby...Also i bought generic oil and it says you can use it on sewing machines, is this true or should you get special oil for the other parts too?

fleurdelisquilts.com 06-19-2010 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by Charlee
WOOHOO!! Thanks so much for the offer!! :)

I have a Kenmore that the feeddogs don't work properly on...they move and "cycle", but they don't drop below the plate, so that all they do is move the fabric back and forth with no progression. I've downloaded a service manual for it, torn into it, and checked for a lint buildup under the dogs...nothing. I've adjusted the height of the dogs to it's lowest point...nothing.

Any other suggestions? It was my mom's machine, I'd love to be able to use it!

Richard says the collar is probably hung up or stuck, so the feeddogs can't work properly. Try this: open the machine so you can see the inside, turn the handwheel by hand in sewing direction and watch the feeddogs, when they get to the farthest back position, roll just a hair more so you can see when the dogs should begin to move down. Clean and oil (lots of oil) and move the hand wheel back and forth just a little to work the oil onto the collar. Re-oil and work the hand wheel again, and keep this up until the collar starts to move and the dogs roll down and around. It takes time and patience to loosen the dogs and collar but it should eventually work.

fleurdelisquilts.com 06-19-2010 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by MadQuilter
When your hubby checks a machine, does he take a look at the battery case as well? I'm asking because I took my machine in to a repair shop regularly. When the "battery low" message came on, I tried to exchange the battery only to find out that the entire case was corroded shut. It must have taken a long time. I never thought to look - - - suppose I assumed that the shop checked "everything." WRONG!

Did I imply that Rich works on machines now? Sorry. He doesn't. Well, he gets roped into it on occasion, but it's not his "real" job. To answer your question, though, he would check the battery and everything else if he were servicing the machine. To service means that they're cleaning and oiling and doing whatever is necessary to prevent problems. Checking the battery and recommending that you replace it when necessary should be part of that. I hope that the company made good on the battery and replaced it and repaired any damage.

fleurdelisquilts.com 06-19-2010 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by blahel
thankyou very much for your kind offer for advice. i am sorry to hear that your mum is not well and hope she gets better soon.
Anyhow my question which I did also post in the other thread (i am a bit embarrassed) but thought I would also post in here incase people dont go to the other thread.
In researching how to oil and maintain my Bernina Artista 180 I read that you should only use rotary hook oil (mobil velocite #10) on the rotary hook as normal sewing machine oil will gunk it up as it is too thick. Is this correct?
I have now thoroughly cleaned out the bobbin area but have not oiled it as did not want to damage anything as my machine is my baby...Also i bought generic oil and it says you can use it on sewing machines, is this true or should you get special oil for the other parts too?


Use an oil that specifies sewing machine oil, because, yes, it has to be very thin. Go to your favorite quilt or fabric shop, or a place that sells sewing machines to buy a good quality oil. It takes only a few drops, so a little will last quite a long time. The same oil can be used throughout the machine.

Katia 06-19-2010 08:20 PM

I have a quick question. One of my machines, a Bernina 1011, was working fine. Still sewing fine as far as I know, but the last time I tried to use the bobbin winder, nothing. I did the usual normal stuff. But the winding does not happen. Is this something I can look into, or should I just take it in?

fleurdelisquilts.com 06-19-2010 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by Katia
I have a quick question. One of my machines, a Bernina 1011, was working fine. Still sewing fine as far as I know, but the last time I tried to use the bobbin winder, nothing. I did the usual normal stuff. But the winding does not happen. Is this something I can look into, or should I just take it in?

I assume that the machine was plugged in, you turned on the winder mechanism correctly, and the machine was turned on. (you'd be surprised)

First try one more time, making sure everything else is working properly and you fully engaged the winder mechanism. If you still have a problem, take the machine in because it could be that the bobbin winder is disconnected, has a short or is frozen. You can't fix any of those and it would be dangerous to try--you could damage the machine or shock yourself if you a wire is loose or damaged.

MadQuilter 06-20-2010 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by fleurdelisquilts.com
Did I imply that Rich works on machines now? [...] I hope that the company made good on the battery and replaced it and repaired any damage.

Sorry, I must have misread something. It sounded like he does to me (not that I want to send my machine your way :D ). I think being roped into it counts though.

and NO, they are not touching my machine EVER AGAIN. DH actually took care of it. He gets roped into things too. :mrgreen:

Not sure why I can't get the quote to display properly???

Katia 06-20-2010 01:41 PM

Thanks, That is kinda what I was thinking. I did have it all plugged in. Was using it and needed more thread on the bobbin. I will just take it to my Bernina guy.

b.zang 06-20-2010 01:59 PM

I can see this becoming a well-bookmarked thread. Lots of good advice and answers happening here! Even though I might not have a question right now, this will be the first place I look if something comes up.
I sent a question to Janome about my machine and the reply came back that they don't diagnose over the internet and I should take it in. They did tell me where to put a drop of oil, though. Luckily, I have a superb mechanic within driving distance and reliable machinery.

Darcene 06-20-2010 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by fleurdelisquilts.com

Originally Posted by Charlee
WOOHOO!! Thanks so much for the offer!! :)

I have a Kenmore that the feeddogs don't work properly on...they move and "cycle", but they don't drop below the plate, so that all they do is move the fabric back and forth with no progression. I've downloaded a service manual for it, torn into it, and checked for a lint buildup under the dogs...nothing. I've adjusted the height of the dogs to it's lowest point...nothing.

Any other suggestions? It was my mom's machine, I'd love to be able to use it!

Richard says the collar is probably hung up or stuck, so the feeddogs can't work properly. Try this: open the machine so you can see the inside, turn the handwheel by hand in sewing direction and watch the feeddogs, when they get to the farthest back position, roll just a hair more so you can see when the dogs should begin to move down. Clean and oil (lots of oil) and move the hand wheel back and forth just a little to work the oil onto the collar. Re-oil and work the hand wheel again, and keep this up until the collar starts to move and the dogs roll down and around. It takes time and patience to loosen the dogs and collar but it should eventually work.

I also have a Kenmore (158.16012) with "frozen" feed dogs---they move back and forth but not up and down....my question for Rich is this---in the photo I have attached is the point of the pencil pointing to the collar? I am using PB Blaster on the moving parts and a blow dryer set to hot in an effort to loosen up this joint...it would be great to know if I am working in the correct area....

Frustrated in KS,
Darcene

Is this the collar?
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fleurdelisquilts.com 06-21-2010 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by Darcene

Originally Posted by fleurdelisquilts.com

Originally Posted by Charlee
WOOHOO!! Thanks so much for the offer!! :)

I have a Kenmore that the feeddogs don't work properly on...they move and "cycle", but they don't drop below the plate, so that all they do is move the fabric back and forth with no progression. I've downloaded a service manual for it, torn into it, and checked for a lint buildup under the dogs...nothing. I've adjusted the height of the dogs to it's lowest point...nothing.

Any other suggestions? It was my mom's machine, I'd love to be able to use it!

Richard says the collar is probably hung up or stuck, so the feeddogs can't work properly. Try this: open the machine so you can see the inside, turn the handwheel by hand in sewing direction and watch the feeddogs, when they get to the farthest back position, roll just a hair more so you can see when the dogs should begin to move down. Clean and oil (lots of oil) and move the hand wheel back and forth just a little to work the oil onto the collar. Re-oil and work the hand wheel again, and keep this up until the collar starts to move and the dogs roll down and around. It takes time and patience to loosen the dogs and collar but it should eventually work.

I also have a Kenmore (158.16012) with "frozen" feed dogs---they move back and forth but not up and down....my question for Rich is this---in the photo I have attached is the point of the pencil pointing to the collar? I am using PB Blaster on the moving parts and a blow dryer set to hot in an effort to loosen up this joint...it would be great to know if I am working in the correct area....

Frustrated in KS,
Darcene

Darcene, Richard says you found the collar. Oil everything and take lots of time unsticking it.

Here's a little extra help: to the left of where the pen is pointing there should be a pin that hooks to another arm--just follow it back till you find the second arm. You can spray the whole thing with penetrating oil (WD40, for example) and let it sit and soak in a while (overnight is okay). You'll probably need to lay the machine on its back to spray and let it soak in. When you're ready, set it back upright and try turning the machine by hand. Again, go slowly so you don't force it out of timing (which might happen anyway). If it feels like it wants to loosen, shoot it down with lots of machine oil and work it loose. If not, go back to the penetrating oil--spray and soak, try turning it gently, repeat. It might take several times of spraying and soaking. (He worked on one of my old machines for two days after I overheated it without oiling it enough. It was cheap, 1., and 2. I hadn't frozen a machine yet by forgetting to oil it. Anyway, he completely disassembled the machine, sprayed the frozen parts down and walked away--to my shock! Just left me standing there. But an hour later he came back, sprayed, played, sprayed it again and left. Two days!!! Finally it broke loose. I'd given up and started looking at new machines but didn't get one cause he fixed the old cheapie. I learned the hard way that to get a new machine with a mechanic in the house takes more than roughing up the machine!) Good luck and let me know if it works. Mary

Charlee 06-21-2010 07:24 PM

Mary, many thanks to you and Richard!! I will follow his advice, I'd love to be able to use this machine! (Like I don't have enough others to use, but hey! This one was my mama's! :) )

Thanks again!

Charlee 06-21-2010 07:25 PM

For an easier find of this thread, I added it to the Virtual section for Sewing/Quilting Machines and Tools! :)

fleurdelisquilts.com 06-21-2010 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by Charlee
For an easier find of this thread, I added it to the Virtual section for Sewing/Quilting Machines and Tools! :)

I have no idea what you just wrote. Where's the virtual section? I thought that Darcene sent the photo. Either way, it's nice to meet you.

annette1952 06-21-2010 07:51 PM

I don't have any questions right now but it is nice to know we can ask you. Thank you & your husband very much.

Darcene 06-22-2010 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by fleurdelisquilts.com

Originally Posted by Charlee
For an easier find of this thread, I added it to the Virtual section for Sewing/Quilting Machines and Tools! :)

I have no idea what you just wrote. Where's the virtual section? I thought that Darcene sent the photo. Either way, it's nice to meet you.

Charlee and I both have the same problem with older Kenmore machines and we have been trying to help one another to get the feed dogs to move up and down....so the hard part for me is going to be the patience part of the equation.....also, just a heads up....don't use the PB Blaster in the house.....it can cause a three day headache...so hot garage or not, here I come.....

Please be sure to thank Richard for his help.....my Richard said "get a big hammer and whack it". Old farm boy method of fixing things.......

Darcene


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