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ameriguat 07-21-2013 05:04 AM

Need advice, not lineing up properly
 
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So I got this pattern from Love of Quilting and I checked the pattern and I checked fabric and stitching and its just not lining up! I feel like I'm going crazy. The final squares should be 3.5 but by triangle ones are 3.75 should I cut the larger triangle down? or cut the sides of the the other? I have no clue how to fix. Its creating major puckering issues.

SmickChick 07-21-2013 05:18 AM

I believe that your block on the right....the center row, the outside triangles (lightest color - there are 2) don't come to a point, thus giving you extra length on this block.

ameriguat 07-21-2013 05:35 AM

The pattern is a flat edge. I went and looked online and I just saw the pattern in the book is no good. I went and bought tri recs tools so I'll try again. I'm grateful I didn't cut ALL my fabrics ugh...

Elisabrat 07-21-2013 05:40 AM

ok after you sew your blocks together each individual one before you sew them to the next one are you squaring them up? this is your issue I think. Square each block up, after you sew them together so they make the right size for the block your doing in the end ie four patch across down is 3.5 each square. the three across is 4.5 and sew on. even with my stupid quarter inch foot I still have a bit of trimming to make those blocks square no idea why either thought it would solve all my troubles ..

glad you have found the right pattern did you tell the people that there is an error or check to see online if there was a published fixed pattern often they do that put the correct measurements up as a sorry here are the ....online for you to use. frustrating to say the least. pretty pattern however.

MartiMorga 07-21-2013 05:46 AM

Hope it all works out for you. It is amazing how easily it is to get a "whomp".

eparys 07-21-2013 05:48 AM

Practice helps - none of my first stars were what I really hoped they would be. As I did them I learned methods that worked for me. So when I click on your image - it gets blown up. What I see is that the problems are not consistent. By that I mean, one of the valleys of the star points is dead spot on (another two are very close) while the others are off. Also the four patches on the top center are pretty close while the set at the bottom are not and the final sizes are not the same either. What is the final size of these blocks?

I hope I have your question correct. When I do this type of block, I measure each subset. In doing that, I also measure , in the case of the 4patch. if the center seam is actually in the center. On the point of the stars, I measure the entire rectangle and also check for the 1/4" seams at the spot where the sides form the V.

When I assemble the Star Points to the center, I put a pin vertically through the bottom of the V and then through its corresponding seam on the 4 patch where I want it to match. I then place pins on either side- removing the vertical pin afterwards. I use that method sometimes when I sew 4patches to one another as well.

Whn done I also, measure the final blocks, measuring the overall size and the location of the the two vertical seams and horizontal seams to one another and make sure they are where they are supposed to be.

My bet is that your 4patches were not the exact same size after being sewn and that is some cases at the V on the star points, there were instances where you did not have your 1/4" seam. Hope this helps. Keep asking questions :)

bearisgray 07-21-2013 06:05 AM

What is a flat edge pattern?

As others have said - your sub- units of the block need to be the same size ( the four- patch and the triangle- in- a- square units)

I think the triangle-in-a-square unit is tricky to assemble properly. Something that helped me a lot was to draw the seam lines on the triangles and pin at the seam intersections. The edges/ears/tails are not even.

I am using my nook right now , so can not refer to anything.

JustAbitCrazy 07-21-2013 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by ameriguat (Post 6188125)
The pattern is a flat edge. I went and looked online and I just saw the pattern in the book is no good. I went and bought tri recs tools so I'll try again. I'm grateful I didn't cut ALL my fabrics ugh...

I don't know what "flat edge" is, either. But I agree, it's always wise to make up one block of a pattern before cutting all your fabrics. Sometimes I make that test block up in fabrics I really don't care for, just as a test of the pattern. Good luck to you! If you are interested, Sally Collins wrote a great book on machine piecing accuracy. Her cutting and sewing tips have helped me immensely. I have bought that book as a gift for several quilty friends.

nativetexan 07-21-2013 06:23 AM

also you might put a skinny sashing strip in between the blocks. that would help in not having to match the blocks together. Good luck.

eparys 07-21-2013 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by nativetexan (Post 6188239)
also you might put a skinny sashing strip in between the blocks. that would help in not having to match the blocks together. Good luck.

That is another solution!!

BellaBoo 07-21-2013 06:30 AM

Something is off with your piecing. There are too many points cut off and no 1/4" seam allowance on many of the outside points. There must have been a post removed for the flat edge and tri recs info.

ameriguat 07-21-2013 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by Elisabrat (Post 6188138)
ok after you sew your blocks together each individual one before you sew them to the next one are you squaring them up? this is your issue I think. Square each block up, after you sew them together so they make the right size for the block your doing in the end ie four patch across down is 3.5 each square. the three across is 4.5 and sew on. even with my stupid quarter inch foot I still have a bit of trimming to make those blocks square no idea why either thought it would solve all my troubles ..

glad you have found the right pattern did you tell the people that there is an error or check to see online if there was a published fixed pattern often they do that put the correct measurements up as a sorry here are the ....online for you to use. frustrating to say the least. pretty pattern however.

That is what I tried to do too...and the squares started coming out 3.25 instead of 3.5. That is why I think its the template.

ameriguat 07-21-2013 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by eparys (Post 6188161)
Practice helps - none of my first stars were what I really hoped they would be. As I did them I learned methods that worked for me. So when I click on your image - it gets blown up. What I see is that the problems are not consistent. By that I mean, one of the valleys of the star points is dead spot on (another two are very close) while the others are off. Also the four patches on the top center are pretty close while the set at the bottom are not and the final sizes are not the same either. What is the final size of these blocks?

I hope I have your question correct. When I do this type of block, I measure each subset. In doing that, I also measure , in the case of the 4patch. if the center seam is actually in the center. On the point of the stars, I measure the entire rectangle and also check for the 1/4" seams at the spot where the sides form the V.

When I assemble the Star Points to the center, I put a pin vertically through the bottom of the V and then through its corresponding seam on the 4 patch where I want it to match. I then place pins on either side- removing the vertical pin afterwards. I use that method sometimes when I sew 4patches to one another as well.

Whn done I also, measure the final blocks, measuring the overall size and the location of the the two vertical seams and horizontal seams to one another and make sure they are where they are supposed to be.

My bet is that your 4patches were not the exact same size after being sewn and that is some cases at the V on the star points, there were instances where you did not have your 1/4" seam. Hope this helps. Keep asking questions :)

Believe it or not I measured all the 4 patch and they are 3.5. ugh! I think its the A and B triangles. Now I just have to wait for my tri recs. This is so frustrating!

sahm4605 07-21-2013 09:23 AM

you should download the pp pattern that is for the points. I have a site on my computer that I use for them. makes a world of difference. I will look it up for you. I have used this block in about 5 different quilts and it always makes them really pop.

ameriguat 07-22-2013 08:02 AM

UGH! I figured it out! You can't align them to each other, which is what I was doing then it was making it short.

bearisgray 07-22-2013 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by ameriguat (Post 6190292)
UGH! I figured it out! You can't align them to each other, which is what I was doing then it was making it short.

:thumbup: That is - in my opinion - a relatively tricky unit to get to come out close to right!

crafterrn1 07-22-2013 08:11 AM

One other problem is stretching. Do not pull on the block sections as you sew. No hand behind pulling and no death grip on the front pieces. The feed dogs are there to pull the fabric through the foot. Also try leaders and enders. Reference Bonnie Hunter or use small scraps. Also hold the thread and bobbin tails for the first 2 stitches as you sew. The new rulers will help! Enjoy! Luann

ameriguat 07-22-2013 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by crafterrn1 (Post 6190308)
One other problem is stretching. Do not pull on the block sections as you sew. No hand behind pulling and no death grip on the front pieces. The feed dogs are there to pull the fabric through the foot. Also try leaders and enders. Reference Bonnie Hunter or use small scraps. Also hold the thread and bobbin tails for the first 2 stitches as you sew. The new rulers will help! Enjoy! Luann

I was ironing it like crazy, ha ha which caused more issues!

crafterrn1 07-22-2013 08:39 AM

I use a small wall papering roller from the Lowes or home depot stores to press my seams open. I am not tugging on them just open to the seam and roll. I also do not use steam when I press as I find it causes stretching on the bias pieces. Luann

ameriguat 07-22-2013 09:00 AM

What is the best way to press? Some people do say open, and some say to the darker fabric.

crafterrn1 07-22-2013 09:14 AM

I try to press to the Dark fabric. I also try to stack the seams. One block section up next one down to nest them. It really does make a difference. I do not force a seam to go the wrong way. I usually let the fabric decide. Luann

ameriguat 07-22-2013 09:47 AM

I do that with the 4 blocks so the seams match nicely.

Holice 07-22-2013 09:48 AM

I will not speculate since I don't know what the size is of each piece.. However on looking at the block I would think the problem is either in the cutting and piecing. If cut correctly then in piecing. It looks like the seams are inconsistent. When sewing different heaped together I have found the scant quarter seam is necessary for the triangles to match the squars.

coopah 07-23-2013 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by ameriguat (Post 6188125)
The pattern is a flat edge. I went and looked online and I just saw the pattern in the book is no good. I went and bought tri recs tools so I'll try again. I'm grateful I didn't cut ALL my fabrics ugh...

That was smart to check online. I have had enough problems with Love of Quilting patterns that I no longer buy any of their products, because I don't want to deal with the difficulties. That's just my experience and I'm sure others love their patterns.

leighway 07-23-2013 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by BellaBoo (Post 6188266)
Something is off with your piecing. There are too many points cut off and no 1/4" seam allowance on many of the outside points. There must have been a post removed for the flat edge and tri recs info.

If you look closely at the triangle tips, there is inconsistency in the sizing which may call for re-piecing....who knows why some of these things don't work? It's just the nature of the beast!

Quilt Fan 07-23-2013 09:01 AM

Hello:
I have made two quilts with your star pattern. Ended up paper piecing the point blocks. One can trace as many blocks (with seam allowance and space between) on a piece of paper and copy them on a copier using paper for paper piecing. Worked for me. Good Luck.

sweetlummi 07-23-2013 12:35 PM

wow you must be good , if you think thing is not good other then the color throwing you off That looks really good to me just like what I would make I;m going to copy you block here and try it later .

kaelynangelfoot 07-23-2013 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by ameriguat (Post 6190320)
I was ironing it like crazy, ha ha which caused more issues!

I use spray starch when I press, it helps a lot to prevent bias stretch.

Gabrielle's Mimi 07-23-2013 05:44 PM

I teach the women in my Learn to Quilt classes what I learned from Harriet Hargrave, and it works, if you have patience and persistence. Measure and cut very carefully. After sewing each seam (with 40 wt thread), starch and press well at least twice. After each pressing, square up (really important). When the block is finished, starch and press, more than once if necessary. It is imperative that there are no little valleys in your seams; starching and pressing the living day lights out of it works ( be sure to PRESS, not iron, and do not stretch your fabric). Your block should feel like lightweight card stock. It's not what you want in your finished quilt, but it's very helpful during the piecing process. The starch will wash out. Good luck and let us know how it turns out.


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