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WTxRed 03-21-2012 06:50 AM

Need Help / Suggestions on 'Fullness' please
 
As a newbie - I've run into a 'situation' that I need some suggestions on please.
I have made a 9 patch quilt - each completed block is appx 2-1/2 inches, I think there are 25 rows of 23 blocks/squares, alternating a block with a 'square'. All is good except for on one end where i seem to have a little fullness, ok a lot of fullness - probably close to an inch. Best I can figure out its starting about 4 or 5 rows from the outer edge. Obviously I had either blocks or squares that weren't the same size.
So my question/quandry - is it 'ok' to take a dart in the top to ease out that fullness or should i start taking apart each of the rows to try to isolate and resew that?
I don't want to put my borders on until i flatten out the design.
All suggestions welcome and Thanks in advance.

grammy Dwynn 03-21-2012 07:05 AM

I am a visual person ~ would it be possible for you to post a picture of your 'fullness'?

Also, ??? a 9 patch that completes to 2.5?? Could you possible mean that your 9 patch has 2.5 cut squares? OR your 9 patch block is 12.5 (typo error)?

jcrow 03-21-2012 07:14 AM

Are you doing a miniature? Or as grammy Dwynn said, could you of typed the wrong size? And yes, a picture would explain your problem. I usually have problems if I'm not careful about the scant 1/4" rule. Could that be your problem?

dunster 03-21-2012 07:24 AM

It's hard to say without seeing the quilt, but one thing to consider is that if you take a dart in one direction, the other direction may still have that fullness, and that will mean the quilt will be difficult to quilt and will not lay flat after quilting. I know it sounds like a lot of work, but it might be worth the effort to take out a few rows and correct the original problem (the size of the blocks) rather than try to fix it from a later point. You are very smart to fix this before you add the borders.

My first quilt was a simple Yellow Brick Road (YBR). The blocks weren't all the same size, so when I sewed them together the quilt was wonky and didn't measure even close to square. My teacher, who is generally pretty tolerant of errors and short cuts, agreed that I needed to take it apart and fix the blocks that were off. You are not alone!

janRN 03-21-2012 07:31 AM

I agree with Dunster, take it apart. I know it's a lot of work but worth it in the end. I have lap quilt I made and one outer border was wavy; I did what you mentioned and made a tuck/dart in it. We just use that quilt as a cover up when chilly but every time I use it I see that blasted tuck. I should have redone it. Good luck!!

QuiltnNan 03-21-2012 07:39 AM

i would take it apart and resew.

Jan in VA 03-21-2012 07:46 AM

I'd suggest you take it apart and re-sew it.
This will serve 3 purposes:
1. You'll learn to be more certain of your measurements next time and
2. You'll be much happier with the results down the road after the quilt is finished.
3. Learning from your mistakes is more permanent than 'fudging'.

Jan in VA

sweet 03-21-2012 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by Jan in VA (Post 5078846)
3. Learning from your mistakes is more permanent than 'fudging'.

Jan in VA

There is such beauty in the simplicity of that sentence.

WTxRed 03-21-2012 08:33 AM

Thanks everyone - and I'll try to get a picture tonight after work to post ... each "finished" 9 patch block is appx 2-1/2" square. I may not be using the correct terminology - I apologize.
I was leaning towards the ripout just hoping there was 'another' way lol. This is my 5th quilt and I'm pretty sure I wasn't consistent on all my seams... which I'm 'ok' with a little difference here and there as each top is a learning experience and I've always heard that every quilt top should have one 'mistake'! But I don't want to see that dart each time I look at this either! I think I have a few other 'mistakes' in it that can take it's place :-)

Prism99 03-21-2012 09:27 AM

Since it's excess fabric, what I usually do in a situation like this is simply re-sew seams in the area of fullness -- starting somewhere towards the middle right on top of the existing seam, then tapering so there is more fabric taken up at the edge. You would want to do this with multiple seams. If you have 1 inch of excess fullness at the edge, then you would want to sew on top of perhaps 4 seams -- making each seam 1/8th inch wider at the edge (which will result in 1/4" less fabric at the edge).

When there is not enough fabric at the edge, you do have to rip before re-sewing. However, when there is excess fabric at the edge, you can simply sew on top of the existing seam and press. No one will know there is extra sewing inside that pressed seam!

grammy Dwynn 03-21-2012 09:29 AM

You do not have to apologize for not understanding/using 'the terminology'. We have all been there, done that. ;)

The most challenging for all of us (beside terminology) is to have accurate/constant 1/4 inch seams. Plus our cutting needs to be accurate. Then we have to perfect our pressing, NOT ironing! Once these have been mastered, then our blocks should (hopefully) come out to be all the same size the pattern suggest.

BUT remember we are all not perfect. We also have learned to perfect the usage of seam rippers. :)

ckcowl 03-21-2012 10:23 AM

this is one of those perfect examples of how an error can add up-
with that many pieces across it is easy to wind up off---
if you are only 1/8" off on a seam you may think---that's not a big deal- i will leave it---but in 8 seams you are a whole inch off!
one of the reasons it is helpful to trim/square up & check for accuracy as you go-
it could be all of your pieces are correct- but your seams somewhere along the way started getting a little larger- or smaller---so, you should look at the back & see where you started having the problem & go back that far- hopefully it's not too far back...good luck-
people often will think---only 1/8" or even 1/16" of an inch is nothing to worry about---but if there are many pieces---those variations to add up---quickly

MissSandra 03-21-2012 12:53 PM

I mark all my seams for the 1/4 inch seam rule

MadQuilter 03-21-2012 01:13 PM

I usually check my blocks before I sew them into rows and yes, I do square them up if they don't match. Then I press each row so the seams nest when the rows are assembled. That way it becomes clear immediately if something is off. IF it is off, I gauge if the problem will be noticeable when the quilt is done OR if it bothers me. Then I take out (cursing of course) my booboo and fix it. I may lose some time, but the result will make me much happier.

Holice 03-21-2012 01:43 PM

Before you do anything measure the squares and blocks to see where the error started and how it continued. It might be only one block and it would be easy to fix that. Pleats or gathers are not desirable embellishments in quilts unless they are part of the design.

nativetexan 03-21-2012 02:28 PM

2.5 inch nine patch block is tiny, tiny, tiny. what ever size they are, they need to ALL be the same size before being sewn together. you will have to rip out stitches and fix the problem. seriously.

WTxRed 03-22-2012 07:01 AM

So I got home last nite, and took off the 3 rows that I suspect have the issue - the balance of the quilt is flat with no fullness or ruffles on the edges. I'm measuring each block in each row and have taken apart some of the seams, where I was 1/8" off on one side or the other, I hope to finish my de-assembly process tonite and by Saturday mid day, I should have everything put back together. Thank you all for your comments. I'll post pictures of the 'finished' product probably in a week :-) I'm excited to see if flat, quilted and bound! Thanks again!!!

janRN 03-22-2012 07:51 AM

Good choice, Wtx. If you're like me, your eyes would have always gone to that dart/pleat area. I hate ripping but always find I'm glad I did. (or I throw the item in the closet in The Box That Will Never Be Opened). Can't wait to see your pics.

bearisgray 03-22-2012 09:07 AM

Glad you decided to correct the problems -

ube quilting 03-22-2012 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by Jan in VA (Post 5078846)
I'd suggest you take it apart and re-sew it.
This will serve 3 purposes:
1. You'll learn to be more certain of your measurements next time and
2. You'll be much happier with the results down the road after the quilt is finished.
3. Learning from your mistakes is more permanent than 'fudging'.

Jan in VA

Jan Rocks!

kittiebug 03-23-2012 04:37 AM

I think you should take it apart to. You can work it in , When you resew put the fullness on the bottom , and
essssss it in , the teeth on the bottom of your machine will grab the exter fabric. You will be surprize.:)

Geri B 03-23-2012 04:38 AM

I would do as Jan recommended........fudging is not a way to learn the right way......I think you mean your block is made up of 2 1/2"squares along with an alternate block of solid/print fabric? Anyway......my question to you is when you were joining these blocks into rows, did you not then see that seams were not matching....if so maybe you can go to that hot spot and adjust that seam (s) to take in that fluff.......darts are only allowed in dressmaking, ha, ha.....

SandyQuilter 03-23-2012 06:02 AM

This problem is a quick fix. Measure your quilt across the middle in both directions (always do this to figure border sizes). that measurement, plus seams, is the borders length. Now, divide the border into quarters and do the same with the quilt's edge. Fit the border/quilt quarters together and pin, working in the excess. You can take up an inch when sewing so that it will not be noticeable. When sewing, have the quilt top edge (the longer edge) on the bottom next to the face plate. Because of the feed dogs, the excess material will be gently gathered in.
SandyQuilter

hoppa 03-23-2012 06:25 AM

A dart will make it difficult to quilt so would resew

solstice3 03-23-2012 08:42 AM

I think you would have to examine the situation and determine if it can be fixed by simply taking in the seam in a particular area or if you need to take it apart because it is a reoccurring problem.

callen 03-23-2012 01:44 PM

Don't apologize for doing something not quite right. That is our greatest teacher - learning from our mistakes. I just had to cut off 2 borders (including the backing & batting) because they just weren't right. I couldn't rip out, I had to cut them off & resew everything back on separately & believe me, I was the better for re-doing them. Even though it was a LOT of work I was much happier in the end. Believe me, I will do better next time & so you will. Best of luck.

penski 03-23-2012 02:45 PM

i would suggest taking it apart because i was always told the mistakes dont go away they only get bigger as you continue

WTxRed 04-16-2012 07:06 AM

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I finished this quilt! I'm happy with it even tho it's far from perfect. Thank you all for your input!!!

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lakekids 04-16-2012 09:34 AM

Beautiful job. I love the colors and the quilting design.

carrieg 04-16-2012 02:25 PM

Wow! That's some 9 patch quilt. I think you will be very glad you took the time to fix it properly.

tezell0801 04-16-2012 02:53 PM

Oh my, only your 5th quilt .... I am impressed! Beautiful and very impressive indeed!

WTxRed 04-17-2012 06:30 AM

Thank you all for your comments! Lessons learned and skills gained :-)

thepolyparrot 04-17-2012 06:48 AM

I think I saw that one in a book - can you tell us the name of the pattern/designer/publication? :)

You have one beautiful quilt there - love the colors on the top! And the quilting is gorgeous, too - congratulations! :)

kelsunshine 04-17-2012 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by grammy Dwynn (Post 5079108)
You do not have to apologize for not understanding/using 'the terminology'. We have all been there, done that. ;)

The most challenging for all of us (beside terminology) is to have accurate/constant 1/4 inch seams. Plus our cutting needs to be accurate. Then we have to perfect our pressing, NOT ironing! Once these have been mastered, then our blocks should (hopefully) come out to be all the same size the pattern suggest.

BUT remember we are all not perfect. We also have learned to perfect the usage of seam rippers. :)


I am a newbie at quilting and have seen several comments on pressing NOT ironing.
Can you please explain the difference? Thanks
Kelly

WTxRed 04-18-2012 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by kelsunshine (Post 5149698)
I am a newbie at quilting and have seen several comments on pressing NOT ironing.
Can you please explain the difference? Thanks
Kelly

From one newbie to another - IMO - pressing is an up and down motion of the iron so as not to stretch or misshape the fabric, ironing is ironing/gliding over the fabric

WTxRed 04-18-2012 06:29 AM

The book is "Radiant Sunshine and Shadow: 23 quilts with nine-patch sparkle"
I don't know specifically which pattern of the 23 I used because they're all basically the same
Good luck and thank you!

tropit 04-18-2012 06:33 AM

Beginner? I don't think so! That quilt came out gorgeous! Nice job!
~ C.

thepolyparrot 04-20-2012 09:26 AM

Thank you - I ordered the book because your quilt is so nice! :)


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