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bearisgray 09-19-2019 10:25 AM

The "old" Coats & Clark Dual Duty Thread
 
I have used it on several quilts that are over twenty years old that have been washed multiple times.

The thread does not cut into the fabric - as some people have "supposed" it would.

I have no idea where that myth came from - but my experience with that thread is that is works fine.

At the time, I had no knowledge of the other "good/better" brands of thread available. I did know that there were some "cheaper" - lesser quality - brands around that were easily available.

Stitchnripper 09-19-2019 10:27 AM

I still use it. No issues. It’s been said that it turns out more expensive than other brands but sometimes I like a color and it is easy to come by. I also use several other brands.

origamigoldfish 09-19-2019 10:32 AM

I use coats and clark, along with a couple other brands. As long as it's the mercerized cotton, I have noticed no difference on my new machine. On my old one, the coats and clark was a little more linty, but not enough to complain about. If anything, taking a few seconds every time I change a bobbin to brush the dust and lint out of my machine while I have the plate off is a good habit to have.

Jingle 09-19-2019 11:40 AM

I use it most of the time it works for me.

Iceblossom 09-19-2019 12:38 PM

I think the old concern about it was the old saw about like threads with like materials, supposedly because it was cotton wrapped poly core it would be too stiff/brittle/hard for the cotton material but was best used with blends.

But I used basically nothing but Dual Duty for 30-40 years for sewing, quilting, top thread, bottom thread, etc. and it always worked just fine with no appreciable damage.

Now we have poly threads specifically for quilting with cotton. Just bought a cone of Sew Fine to use as a bobbin thread and no one says "oh no, not on cotton quilts!".

Onebyone 09-19-2019 01:24 PM

No store or shop carries Coats and Clark thread, not even Walmart here. So I don't use it. It use to be the only thread available anywhere. The newer machines that have internal threading need little or no lint thread. Open threading it really makes no difference as the air carries away much of the lint.

Quilt30 09-19-2019 01:36 PM

Any time I find the older coats dual duty thread, I grab it. It was good stuff.

bakermom 09-19-2019 02:22 PM

I use Coats and Clark pretty much exclusively. Never have any problems.

Irishrose2 09-19-2019 02:35 PM

I like the old C & C, but intensely dislike the new C & C. It's just too stiff.

SusieQOH 09-19-2019 03:23 PM

When I started sewing a million years ago it's the only brand I remember. Then I started buying those skinny spools (forgot the name ) and now have several different brands but no longer use C & C. I don't even know where you can buy it.

juliasb 09-19-2019 04:01 PM

I no longer use if for quilting since I mostly use Glide threads. However C&C Dual Duty is still a staple in my thread supplies.

quiltingshorttimer 09-19-2019 05:50 PM

C & C Dual Duty is what I prefer when hand sewing down binding--does shred like the all cotton and doesn't twist, etc like some poly thread.

charlottequilts 09-19-2019 06:20 PM

I have quite a lot of Dual Duty, stored in the flat Valentine and Christmas chocolate cans (someone here is Very Helpful about scouting out the holiday cans, which arrive amazingly empty. :D ) I guess the polyester myth has kept me from using it for piecing - glad to hear that it works just fine.

hugs,
charlotte

illinois 09-20-2019 02:59 AM


Originally Posted by charlottequilts (Post 8303704)
I have quite a lot of Dual Duty, stored in the flat Valentine and Christmas chocolate cans (someone here is Very Helpful about scouting out the holiday cans, which arrive amazingly empty. :D ) I guess the polyester myth has kept me from using it for piecing - glad to hear that it works just fine.

hugs,

This seems to be a good reason to buy the candy in these containers. Now what to do with the candy......

KalamaQuilts 09-20-2019 03:21 AM


Originally Posted by Onebyone (Post 8303585)
No store or shop carries Coats and Clark thread, not even Walmart here. So I don't use it. It use to be the only thread available anywhere. The newer machines that have internal threading need little or no lint thread. Open threading it really makes no difference as the air carries away much of the lint.

https://www.walmart.com/browse/arts-...iiBDbGFyawieie
I know this because I recently sought some out for sewing up jeans.
JoAnns carries it too. Just saying.

Onebyone 09-20-2019 03:33 AM


Originally Posted by KalamaQuilts (Post 8303777)
https://www.walmart.com/browse/arts-...iiBDbGFyawieie
I know this because I recently sought some out for sewing up jeans.
JoAnns carries it too. Just saying.

The Walmart here has a big selection of Guttermann thread and has Brother pre wound bobbins. Some $1 spools of poly in the craft dept. No Coats and Clark in the store.

luvstoquilt 09-20-2019 04:45 AM

I still use Coats and Clark and I love it.

mojo11 09-20-2019 04:45 AM

Where can I find the cotton wrapped poly C&C thread? i have looked all over the internet. I assume this is the "old" C&C thread.

PiedPiper 09-20-2019 04:41 PM

How interesting that you brought this up. I just took my sewing machine in for a service, and the lady at the shop checked the spool of thread I had on it (just all-purpose thread). Then she very seriously warned me never to use dual duty thread because it has a wax on it that builds up in the workings of the machine and affects how it works. I have never heard that before, and have never had a problem with dual duty thread. Has anyone else heard about this wax coating? Or is it another "myth"?

bearisgray 09-20-2019 05:29 PM

All of my machines are "older" - probably from the 1960s to about 1985. None of them are persnickety.

Bobbielinks 09-20-2019 05:37 PM

Don't know if it i a myth, but I have used Coats and Clarks in my Singers for at least 40 years and my Brother since buying it about 13 years ago and have never had a "build up". I do my own machine maintence.

Stitchnripper 09-20-2019 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by PiedPiper (Post 8304062)
How interesting that you brought this up. I just took my sewing machine in for a service, and the lady at the shop checked the spool of thread I had on it (just all-purpose thread). Then she very seriously warned me never to use dual duty thread because it has a wax on it that builds up in the workings of the machine and affects how it works. I have never heard that before, and have never had a problem with dual duty thread. Has anyone else heard about this wax coating? Or is it another "myth"?

that is a new one on me.

ctrysass2012 09-20-2019 07:18 PM

Coats had a hand quilting thread at 1 time that had a 'waxy' coating. It was stiffer but the idea is similar to using bees wax on your thread. I may still have 1 or 2 spools tucked in somewhere. :)

fruitloop 09-21-2019 04:55 AM

Dual Duty was made for one reason, to save the manufacturer money. Short staple cotton pieces are cheap but very weak so it was wrapped in poly. It sews fine in many machines. But it is very overpriced for what it is.

maviskw 09-21-2019 05:22 AM

My friend had a pillow case which was falling apart so she asked me if I could fix it. After I examined it, I came to the conclusion that the pillow case was made with blend fabric which must have been sewn with cotton thread. The thread just wore out, but the fabric was fine. I re-sewed the pillow case and it was fine.

charlottequilts 09-21-2019 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by fruitloop (Post 8304206)
Dual Duty was made for one reason, to save the manufacturer money. Short staple cotton pieces are cheap but very weak so it was wrapped in poly. It sews fine in many machines. But it is very overpriced for what it is.

I believe you have that backwards; it's cotton-covered polyester on the older spools and 37/63 cotton/poly on the "newer" (as in 20 yrs ago) spools. It doesn't say on the newer ones which is outside, but it does feel like it's the cotton.

charlotte

crafty pat 09-21-2019 12:10 PM

That is about all I use and have never had a problem with the clothing or quilts I have made. My 401A was bought in 1958 and that is all I have used on it and she still sews like a dream. I use it on my Brother and no problem.

KwiltyKahy 09-22-2019 02:36 AM


Originally Posted by PiedPiper (Post 8304062)
How interesting that you brought this up. I just took my sewing machine in for a service, and the lady at the shop checked the spool of thread I had on it (just all-purpose thread). Then she very seriously warned me never to use dual duty thread because it has a wax on it that builds up in the workings of the machine and affects how it works. I have never heard that before, and have never had a problem with dual duty thread. Has anyone else heard about this wax coating? Or is it another "myth"?

The hand quilting thread has a waxy coating. It should never be used on your machine. But I have never heard that about the regular dual duty thread.

pokeyscorner 09-22-2019 04:15 AM


Originally Posted by Onebyone (Post 8303585)
No store or shop carries Coats and Clark thread, not even Walmart here. So I don't use it. It use to be the only thread available anywhere. The newer machines that have internal threading need little or no lint thread. Open threading it really makes no difference as the air carries away much of the lint.

We have the Coats & Clark at our Joanne Fabrics Store. Sometimes they have a half off sale.:)

charlottequilts 09-22-2019 06:31 AM

Does Coats & Clark make the Star quilting thread? I used the Star to piece and quilt my first project because that's what Beverly's carried, but it was really linty. I had no idea how much thread I would need, so I bought way too many spools of a soft yellow. The quilt is still going strong. Curious as to what Star is like now.

hugs,
charlotte


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