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Moon Holiday 02-26-2011 04:39 AM

I used the lightest stablizer I could find... wasn't particular about brand, as long as it was real lightweight. To print on it I ironed it to freezer paper. Piecing with the stabilizer didn't make it too bulky because I would clip it off when I had several seam intersecting.
I probably would have used the dissolving kind if it existed back in the 80s when I was doing a lot of pp.

thseabreze 02-26-2011 05:17 AM

I make a mess too, but it is totally worth it. I love the 'exactness' of the paper piecing.

moreland 02-26-2011 05:20 AM

Thanks for sharing this link. I'm going to try it when I get home.
It looks easier than what I've done before.

Originally Posted by Kitsie

Originally Posted by MTS
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Do not give up.

If someone were to tell me their first PP experience went smoothly, I would not believe them. It's an incredibly a$$ backwards kind of technique - which I now happen to love.

My first block, about 10 years ago, was one of Carol Doak's 50 Fabulous stars. It took 2 hours. TWO FREAKING HOURS.

And you haven't yet put together your top ....wait until you see the "mess" when you start removing the paper.

I do feel your pain.;) ;)

You can avoid the removing paper step! : http://www.twiddletails.com/store/in...age=page&id=21
So much easier! And templates don't shift, can be reused many times.


chance 02-26-2011 05:29 AM

I use the method Kitsie suggested. Just have to take a minute or two to get your head around the way this works. Beautiful points - no torn paper, no stretched fabric, no loosened seams, etc. Love it!

tgreen130 02-26-2011 05:33 AM

I know it is tedious but it produces the best, most perfect finished look. I can't hand piece to make it look as good as paper piecing and I have been quilting for 40 years. It has such precision that it is worth it. I do believe you need to do other projects besides PP at the same time to get a little break from it, but nothing turns out better for sure! Hang in there. Jinny Beyers stuff is gorgeous but does take a little extra time and skill. It will be a wonderful prize quilt when you are done. I can't wait to see your results.

grocifer 02-26-2011 05:47 AM

Claddaughquilting -- I can definitely identify with all the mistakes that can be made in one block. Polly, don't give up, it does get easier and it has taken me TWO weeks to piece 5 of Carol Doak's Maine Star. I am using many colors in each block and trying to keep each block a little bit different so it becomes a challenge. Before I get all the colors successfully sewn in place, most of the selected colors have wound up on the floor in a jumbled mess and I can't remember which piece I intended to sew where. If I can stick with it, it will make a striking quilt........

lynnsv 02-26-2011 06:13 AM

I love paper piecing. I really like the fact that I don't have to cut the pieces precisely? to start. And I use thin sew in interfacing and you don't have anything to remove when you are done!!

sidmona 02-26-2011 06:23 AM

I tend to be a neat freak when it comes to PPing. I have two bins next to me. A small one on the table for the fabric scraps and a large recycle bin on the floor right below where I am trimming for the paper pieces. Doing it this way keeps the area I am working on clear of debris.

Lucky Lindy 02-26-2011 07:02 AM

I was lucky enough to help our guild's presidents do the Bali Double Wedding ring, it was all paper pieced, but it is beautiful! We are selling raffle tickets for it and will give it away at our show in Nov.. It is really "futsy", but well worth the work, I think.

peggymunday 02-26-2011 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by MTS

Originally Posted by peggymunday
I realize it's "paper" piecing, but I like to trace the pattern onto a lightweight fabric like muslin (just lay the fabric over the pattern and copy with pencil) and then use it like the paper pattern. No need to tear away and it gives the piece more stability without being too thick. It made for quick work for some TUIT's that I did for a women's meeting at the church. I made 16 of these in just a couple of days.

But that's one continuous pattern. You start and keep going around, and there aren't different sections that need to meet up in the center.

Which is why I always say that there are many PP techniques, but not all work for all PP situations. So it's good to learn them as many as possible as each has its pros and cons.

For example, I would never do a complicated Mariner's Compass using muslin foundation.

I shiver just thinking about the extra bulk. But your example, or a string quilt, sure, without hesitation.

Or I've even used the Benartex NYBeauty pre-printed muslin foundations - but that's because there aren't points matching up with other points.

The term paper piecing is almost used generically.I think all these comments cover "foundation" piecing. And then it's your choice of the foundation and method.

No, it isn't a continuous pattern for the TUIT, it's 3 seperate pieces. But it really didn't create much bulk having the foundation out of muslin instead of tear away paper. Here's the free pattern from Paper Panache if anyone would like it. It offers 2 different sizes, mine is the 7.25"
http://www.paperpanache.com/free/guestpats/atuit.htm

MommaDorian 02-26-2011 07:50 AM

What does TUIT stand for?

sidmona 02-26-2011 09:02 AM

Notice it is round and you give it to someone when they say they'll do someting when they get a round to it thus a round tuit.

Dianne1 02-26-2011 09:07 AM

The best way is to organize. Cut the strps to size 3/4 in larger then you need. I go over the pattern with a large unthreaded needle exactle where the seams are. You can do as many as 10 pieces at a time. This make the ripping out the paper so easy and you don't have a huge mess of little pieces. Also try to chain piece. Do the same color on each block, like chain piecing. These are some of the things that have helped me.

MTS 02-26-2011 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by peggymunday
No, it isn't a continuous pattern for the TUIT, it's 3 seperate pieces. But it really didn't create much bulk having the foundation out of muslin instead of tear away paper. Here's the free pattern from Paper Panache if anyone would like it. It offers 2 different sizes, mine is the 7.25"
http://www.paperpanache.com/free/guestpats/atuit.htm

Ah, because of the letters. I wasn't even seeing them.
I was looking at it as a dodecagon, and thinking that it would make a really cool mug rug. ;)

Grandma Peg 02-26-2011 11:37 AM

I am also working on this and have 6 blocks to go. It almost seems that each block gets a little more difficult. But keep telling myself it's going to be a beautiful quilt. Have my fabrics in a container so the room only gets half messed.

jaciqltznok 02-26-2011 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Kitsie

Originally Posted by MTS
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Do not give up.

If someone were to tell me their first PP experience went smoothly, I would not believe them. It's an incredibly a$$ backwards kind of technique - which I now happen to love.

My first block, about 10 years ago, was one of Carol Doak's 50 Fabulous stars. It took 2 hours. TWO FREAKING HOURS.

And you haven't yet put together your top ....wait until you see the "mess" when you start removing the paper.

I do feel your pain.;) ;)

You can avoid the removing paper step! : http://www.twiddletails.com/store/in...age=page&id=21
So much easier! And templates don't shift, can be reused many times.

she makes it look easy, but in reality, you have be super precise to NOT sew on the paper. and each template only lasts about 3 blocks. so you have to stop and make MORE templates....

Paper piecing is like any thing else..you have to take in small steps ANd you can remove the paper from the block before putting the quilt together, simply stay stitch the outer 1/8" of the block and then spray it with sizing after the paper is gone and PRESS it with no stretching.

Dolphyngyrl 02-26-2011 11:55 AM

I did my first this morning I only did 1/8th of the block, took me an hour and a half, its one of those BOM, thought it would be quicker than that, but the eighth of a block looks pretty, the seam ripper was my friend this morning. i hope it gets easier

scisyb220 02-26-2011 12:34 PM

Thanks for this! I am considering making a pp Pond Pals quilt for my daughter who just found out she's expecting her first baby! After more than 3 years of trying they finally found the formula & we are all so excited! This will make it doable for a novice like me to have some success with this totally adorable pattern from a 2008 Quiltmaker's Favorites magazine from my "library". <3!

Judy sevigny 02-26-2011 03:10 PM

I love to paper piece.Everything comes out and looks great.I think that it does take a take a little longer to do but every square comes perfect.

Wholeheart Mom 02-26-2011 03:18 PM

I had an experienced quilter demonstrate her method of PP to me... she uses Swedish Tracing Paper to trace the pattern on and you don't have to rip it off.

catlover 02-26-2011 03:44 PM

With all your wonderful talent, Polly, I'm sure you'll find a system that works for you. It is a messy technique for sure. I keep a wastebasket handy.

So what are you working on now?

Cynthia

annpryor 02-26-2011 03:46 PM

I take pattern ease and put it through my printer to get the designs and then go to sewing and I don't rip the pattern ease off when I am done it just stays. It is something I learned from the Dear Jane Quilt.

QuiltQtrs 02-26-2011 03:54 PM

Have tried one wallhanging size project, and a few simple blocks ... but just
can't get the hang of doing everything upside down/backwards. However,
the prefectionist in me admires other quilter's work.

pollyjvan9 02-26-2011 04:06 PM

1 Attachment(s)
These are the 1st seven blocks in the Jinny's Garden pp quilt. Have some mistakes but I can live with all so far except for the flat tops on the crocus. I am going to correct it at some point. If you haven't see this quilt it has 4 blocks in the middle that have yellow and golds, the rest of the blocks I am using reds. Jinny used purples in her quilt. Will keep you posted as I go along.

Jinny's garden 1st 7 blocks
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CLMQuilter 02-26-2011 05:14 PM

I love PP and have been doing it for years. Years ago I made a full size Quilt all Paper pieced including the boarders. Use a smaller stitch when PP trears out a little easyer and some people spray the paper with water to get the paper off

Earleen 02-26-2011 05:48 PM

You are not the only one I just do not like pp. I think I have a mental block for it.

Originally Posted by almostfree
I just don't get it! I have watched and looked at so many tutorials for this, but it doesn't make any sense to me! Am I the only one?


TXyankee 02-26-2011 06:32 PM

I've been working on a pp mini. I had explanations and demos from the experienced ladies at my bee group. I still get confused but I'm ripping out less as I get better. How do I handle the bulk in the junctions? My sewing machine gets stuck when I try to sew over the seams.

Sandra in Minnesota 02-26-2011 06:46 PM

Relax and let the mess pile up. All you have to do is vacuum yourself off when you're done! lol

liminanc 02-26-2011 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by almostfree
I just don't get it! I have watched and looked at so many tutorials for this, but it doesn't make any sense to me! Am I the only one?

I don't get it either. It looks like way too much effort for me. I guess my points are good enough for me just using templates.

Pat G 02-26-2011 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by Pollyv9
I started the Jinny's Garden paper pieced quilt pattern yesterday and just finished the 6th block. (It is 1:00 pm) I am exausted and I have the worst mess you have ever seen. Paper, Paper and scraps, scraps everywhere. Is there a neat way to do this?

Normally I try to keep my sewing space tidy but when I'm really into a PP proj. I just love the scattered mess. All of those little, colorful pcs. can usually be used somewhere. If they're too sm. for anywhere, they go into the wastebasket. Removing all that paper is a project all of its own. Don't worry about the mess. Just clean it up occas. if it really bothers you. You will be so happy with your finished project.

fratcat 02-26-2011 07:45 PM

I had a very difficult time paper piecing last year in a class I took. Everyone else was on 2 or 3 blocks ahead of me and I was on the first one. It just seems backward to me. I picked up my pattern again abt 2 weeks ago, and just the point part of the project took me almost one and a half hours. at that rate, if i tried to do a New York Beauty block and make a quilt, I would say about 5 years in the making. I find it beautiful, precise but very frustrating bec. I feel I am backward when doing it. I think it just takes practice and patience.

galvestonangel 02-26-2011 07:45 PM

I love paper piecing. There was a learning curve at first, but I finally got comfortable with it. I love how the blocks looked. They were 6" blocks and some were very involved, never could have done it as well with the paper piecing.

The method that Kitsie referenced looks to involved if every block is different.

madamekelly 02-26-2011 09:32 PM

I have a waste basket that sits on one side of me, and a crumb bag on the other, with a thread catcher cup next to the machine. I complete the whole unit of PP, then hold it with both hands, over the trash, and rotate my hands as if I am pedaling them. Paper tears itself loose, and falls in the trash. Pull off the last few bits, and go to the iron to press. Square done.

grma33 02-27-2011 03:21 AM

Thanks for posting pictures.
Going to to beautiful.I like your color choices.
Gale

sewmom 02-27-2011 05:53 AM

I did some PP cardinals. it took over 2 hours for each block, start to finish. I got so i was not ripping out every other seam-more like every 4th seam.
they turned out pretty good IMHO. they do have a lot of mistakes though. i do like it and will definately do more PP. I would like to make a point-there are different methods of PP. the methods where you don't tear out the paper is not the same as Foundation Paper Piecing. Isn't that English Paper Piecing? someone correct me if I'm wrong. Personally, I think that method is more difficult.

sewmom 02-27-2011 05:58 AM

Pollyv9- i forgot to say YES i thought it was a very messy project. Scraps of fabric, slips of paper, threads everywhere!!! I did keep a scraps bucket nearby and a wastebasket too! it's messy, but oh so beautiful when done. I love your blocks. your quilt will be beautiful when finished.

coletteelizabeth 02-27-2011 11:09 AM

Me neither no matter how many times I look I just don`t get it.What is wrong with me ?

Ceil 02-27-2011 12:02 PM

Here's the link that someone posted yesterday(?). It seems like a great way to do this as I've been having some trouble pp but can generally do it. I'm going to try this but am a bit apprehensive about cutting the seams when she does.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv2gK...eature=related

madamekelly 02-27-2011 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by TXyankee
I've been working on a pp mini. I had explanations and demos from the experienced ladies at my bee group. I still get confused but I'm ripping out less as I get better. How do I handle the bulk in the junctions? My sewing machine gets stuck when I try to sew over the seams.

Anytime my machine 'bogs down' over thick areas,I just turn the wheel by hand so I do not break needles or thread.

grandma sue 02-27-2011 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by MTS

Originally Posted by peggymunday
I realize it's "paper" piecing, but I like to trace the pattern onto a lightweight fabric like muslin (just lay the fabric over the pattern and copy with pencil) and then use it like the paper pattern. No need to tear away and it gives the piece more stability without being too thick. It made for quick work for some TUIT's that I did for a women's meeting at the church. I made 16 of these in just a couple of days.

But that's one continuous pattern. You start and keep going around, and there aren't different sections that need to meet up in the center.

The first freezer paper PP I did was in a class and we did a Mariner's compass. Turned out perfect. And it was so easy once I got started.

Which is why I always say that there are many PP techniques, but not all work for all PP situations. So it's good to learn them as many as possible as each has its pros and cons.

For example, I would never do a complicated Mariner's Compass using muslin foundation.

I shiver just thinking about the extra bulk. But your example, or a string quilt, sure, without hesitation.

Or I've even used the Benartex NYBeauty pre-printed muslin foundations - but that's because there aren't points matching up with other points.

The term paper piecing is almost used generically.I think all these comments cover "foundation" piecing. And then it's your choice of the foundation and method.



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