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Kitsie 04-03-2010 07:49 AM

Thanks Irish I've looked it up. Will be a great help.

Kitsie 04-03-2010 07:51 AM

Phyl, I would think that the muslin would be too easy to pull out of shape where the "paper" would hold its shape and hence the sharp corners etc.

tslowery 04-03-2010 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by Phyl

Originally Posted by salmonsweet
I love freezer paper piecing. It irons on and you don't sew through it, so you can use normal stitch length and simply peel it off afterwards. There's a great tutorial here:

http://www.twiddletails.com/store/in...age=page&id=21

Freezer paper piecing is the method Judy Mathieson now recommends in her book Mariner's Compass - Setting a New Course. One difference to the tute above: she stacks several pieces of freezer paper and sews through them with her machine with an unthreaded needle. The perforation does the same thing as making creases as in the tute, except you catch several layers at once.

I tried traditional foundation piecing (the one with sewing through the paper) once. Hated it. With a passion.
Little pieces to pick out between seams in every sharp point; the foundation coming apart every time I needed to take out a seam... well it tears easily, that's the point isn't it... but for me at least it didn't hold up when I used my seam ripper.

A novice's question....Why can't you use a thin muslin instead of the paper and NOT take it out when finished??????Is BULK the only reason? If that's it, I'd rather have the teeny extra bulk without the tearing out. Tell me please but be kind!!!Thanks

Me to :oops: :oops: :oops: answer please...

Phyl 04-03-2010 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by Kitsie
Phyl, I would think that the muslin would be too easy to pull out of shape where the "paper" would hold its shape and hence the sharp corners etc.

That makes sense but let's go further with that. What about using a fabric that would be stiffer? (I HATE ripping out, pulling out, taking out, etc.) Or....using a fabric starch or something? (It's my last ...what if ...on this one!) Thanks for your help and your patience. Phyl

Up North 04-03-2010 08:03 AM

June Taylor has a product called Perfect Piecing $6.00 for 25 sheets that can be left in, I didn't like tearing it out it is like a light weight interfacing. I am using Carol Doaks paper right now $10.00 for 100 sheets but guess what, is is just newsprint tears easy tho.

Kitsie 04-03-2010 08:03 AM

I think the whole idea is that you are NOT joining fabric to fabric without something non-stretchable added. Otherwise, why not just join pieces in the normal way? One friend here recommended a product called Do-Sew that you can leave it. PP is all about maintaining the shapes of the pieces. Listen to me and I haven't even tried it yet!

iltoaz 04-03-2010 10:24 AM

Using PP I did a couple of tumbing blocs pillows, turquoise, black, and white, for the teen turned out excellent. Once you get the hang of PP it's great and a wonderfule take-a-long project.

canuckninepatch 04-03-2010 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Up North
I am in the process of learning to PP "Thank You Quilt "moms" I hate the mess it makes from all the little pieces and I hate picking out all that paper but the blocks are beautiful when they are done, So I have to say I have a love hate relationship with it. I am currently looking for something for paper that is easy to pick out- probably no such thing, I used June Taylor and is is like interfacing I have some Carol Doaks that is like newsprint. It didn't help my block had 20 units to it!

My first attempt at paper piecing was doing a new York Beauty block. The first square I did I used computer paper which was horrible to take out. Then I read somewhere, that using really cheap doodle paper (like newsprint) from the dollar store was the way to go, and it made a huge amount of difference. I had scanned the pattern to my computer, since I had to resize it, and I printed it right onto the newsprint, and it worked just beautifully.

I would do it again in a minute.

By the way, I have included a photo of my paperpieced centre (new york beauties) for a round robin quilt. It's on it's third round now, so I'm curious to see what's been added.......

Kitsie 04-03-2010 11:37 AM

Beautiful work!

doowopddbop 04-03-2010 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by amma
I love it!!! Fold the paper over and score it with your finger nail, then tear it off :D I just use cheap copy paper and it tears right off. If I see a little bitty paper triangle in the seam line, I remove them before they get buried... removing those little pieces early, doesn't hurt the block any :wink:

This works for me, too! Cheap copy paper, tiny stitches. Result: perfect little points. I always fold every line on the paper-piecing pattern before I begin, which also helps. It seems that freezer paper would be even HARDER to work with because it is so tough in the first place.

doowopddbop 04-03-2010 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by canuckninepatch
My first attempt at paper piecing was doing a new York Beauty block. The first square I did I used computer paper which was horrible to take out. Then I read somewhere, that using really cheap doodle paper (like newsprint) from the dollar store was the way to go, and it made a huge amount of difference. I had scanned the pattern to my computer, since I had to resize it, and I printed it right onto the newsprint, and it worked just beautifully.

I would do it again in a minute.

By the way, I have included a photo of my paperpieced centre (new york beauties) for a round robin quilt. It's on it's third round now, so I'm curious to see what's been added.......

Wow, see how beautiful your points are! Cheap doodle paper must be the way to go! Thanks for sharing!

dixiechunk 04-03-2010 12:01 PM

When my niece got married five years ago I did a double wedding ring in blue and white that was paper-pieced. It was truly a labor of love. Blue is not my favorite color and I hate paper-piecing. It turned out beautiful but never again. Presently working on Dear Jane and although I have PP one or two blocks I mostly would by far rather just sew tiny tiny pieces.

jolo 04-03-2010 12:03 PM

Muslin is what we used in the old days as my grandkids say. We called it foundation or string quilting. lol Jolo

BKrenning 04-03-2010 12:43 PM

I've done crazy blocks with muslin and it works great. I suppose you could even iron it onto freezer paper cut into 8.5 x 11" pieces and run it through certain printers to print out the patterns on. Or you could do it the hard way and use a light box to trace the pattern onto the muslin. I have printed on muslin and crayon colored it in for an ABC Sesame Street baby quilt. It worked very well. In paper piecing/foundation piecing--I always square up my blocks before stitching them together so that would take care of most skewing problems. If the muslin is starched well and/or cut on the straight of grain, it should be fine.

Beverly in Missouri

shrabar 04-03-2010 03:19 PM

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I made a tumbling block quilt it is on this site all I did was make diamond shape blocks but there is a trick to sew them together to get the point...

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shrabar 04-03-2010 03:21 PM

Bev ,we dont live to far apart from each other I live in Cape girardeau do you ever come here?

ionanharris 04-03-2010 03:25 PM

Try using tracing paper. I get it at Walmart and trim the side to size for my copier. Since it is longer than regular paper, I put half of my design on the top, turn it upside down and run the paper through again using the bottom. If you don't have a copier, you can store your designs in the computer and print from there. Also, using picture tools, you can size a design to suit your needs. I had no luck cutting the pieces to size. Instead I cut strips or squares of fabric. I position one along the sewing line, fold the paper back, and trim to 1/4 inch. I was doing houses and getting the angles right was a challenge! Hope this helps someone.

weezie 04-03-2010 03:43 PM

I did do a few blocks once. (I have a book with quite a few patterns in it and instructions, plus I've downloaded a lot of PP patterns.) I have a "directional" problem, which means I have a tendency to get things upside down and backwards. With that problem, I think it is much easier to make errors when paper piecing. On the other hand, for sharp points (like Mariner's Compass), I agree that PP is really useful.

cscmath 04-03-2010 03:50 PM

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Love it!!
I have made two New York Beauty quilts by paper piecing. One thing I like is that you can sew small sections at a time, and don't always have to work on big sections at once.

Pati- in Phx 04-03-2010 03:54 PM

Hi, I think that there is a bit of confusion here. For Tumbling blocks the traditional method is English Paper Piecing, not Paper Foundation Piecing. <VBG>
I have done tumbling blocks with cutting and stitching diamonds, don't want to do EPP, but the easiest way is with Inklingo. <G> Inklingo is a new tool to use, it is software to buy and download that allows you to print cutting and stitching lines on the back of your fabric with an inkjet printer. Great for all sorts of designs traditionally done with EPP and such. Check it out at Inklingo.com

Pati, in Phx

ICU_FOSTERMOM 04-03-2010 04:29 PM

WoW...I am reading all your chit chat about PP and my head is spinning. I am new to quilting,but an old-timer to sewing.

There are so many quilts that I want to make that don't require PP that it will be a long time before I will need to challange myself with any difficult projects .

BUT.....I surely appreciate the beauty of all the work of you talented people here.

I am now hooked on reading as much as I can of the tidbits of knowledge you guys throw out.

HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO YOU ALL.....(~.~)

shrabar 04-03-2010 04:57 PM

I went to the site you mentioned little confusing for a new quilter, Could you please send me the sizes of a twin, full, queen & king quilt & what is the difference between paper piecing & paper foundation. Thank You HappyEaster

boosgmom 04-03-2010 06:44 PM

I just tried making sailboat blocks with paper piecing. In fact, I used a Carol Doak book. I found tracing paper was easy to work with. Haven't tried anything else yet.

Sarah CA 04-03-2010 07:06 PM

Wow Karen, that's a smart idea, sewing with the longer stitch length first!! I think I will do it next time. I love to PP.

I also put my stitches at 1.5 and the paper tears wonderfully. When joining larger blocks I use a 3.5 or 4 stitch length the first time to make doubly sure the points meet, then do it again with the 1.5 stitch length.

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zz-pd 04-03-2010 08:53 PM

I want to do that, still havent tried yet. Penny

bev fry 04-03-2010 09:06 PM

I have made a tumbling blocks quilt,using foundation piecing with muslin instead of paper. I acquired the original pattern and put it in my scanner and printed it off on the muslin squares the I attached to a piece of lightly sprayed printer paper. It makes a heavier quilt and probably would not be easy to hand quilt but machine quilts nicely, as you just leave the muslin in.

GladGrams 04-03-2010 11:40 PM


Originally Posted by Kitsie
Some year I'm going to do a tumbling blocks quilt. The prettiest one I've seen uses paper piecing (I don't care for the strip method because I don't want seams on the block "tops"). So I'm wondering if its terribly difficult or just moderately annoying? Anybody really like it?

I really like to paper piece! :-D

I have found Tumbling blocks to be daunting and am afraid to try it, (even with the great pattern from my SQA).

Would you share the resource for the PP blocks pattern please?

sandpat 04-04-2010 05:56 AM

I've never tried the EPP...but I do love to PP. I use a light tracing paper from Wally's. Here is a little secret girls....if you can't get every speck of paper out..don't worry....it will come out in the wash and just melt away and make no difference in your finished quilt. Now..don't go leaving those huge hunks in there though!

milliegrueb 04-04-2010 08:32 AM

I just started paper piecing and just love it. But having problems. When the pattern has to be printed on two pages, the 2nd page doesn't match up with the first. The pattern has a 1 inch match on each page. The first page has the right 1 inch match and the 2nd page is slightly off. How do isI get the 2nd page to match the first?
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Grammie Sharon 04-04-2010 10:08 AM

I'm working on a quilt where I have hand pieced everything so far. Across the top I want to spell out "Michigan" and "2010" on the bottom by paper piecing. I've never done this, so my question is it better to PP on machine or can it be done by hand. I feel like I would be cheating if I PP the letters using the machine as everything thus far is hand sewn. What do you think? Am i just being obsessive with this?

marla 04-04-2010 11:11 AM

One of my first quilts was papaer pieced, in the Ocean waves pattern. It turned out very nice, all the points came out nice and I use it often. I did the lap size whiich went faster than if I had done a large quilt. A good learning experience for me.

marla 04-04-2010 11:21 AM

Hi Millegreub! I am not sure about your question. I have never seen paper piecing patterns run into 2 pages. The block must be huge! Or are you talking about applique with the freezer paper method?
For applique, I copy both pages and then tape them together to match up the lines. The I copy it to freezer paper and also to some type of thin see through material so I can align the applique properly on my square.
For regular paper piecing, make sure your block is all on one page. When you make copies for each block Align them p and hold it to the light to make sure they are copied the same. Hope this helps.

milliegrueb 04-04-2010 12:21 PM

Regard to paper piecing on two pages. If you go to www.quilterscache.com you will see many, many pages of paper piecing. The patterns are normal 8 1/2 x ll but half is on one page and the other half is on another page. I made the pumpkin wallhanging and the two pages don't match up when I want to sew them together.
Thanks.

Up North 04-04-2010 12:32 PM

You are right I just printed them off one comes at a 1 inch the other t 3/4 inch don't know how to fix it sorry

Quiltmaniac 04-04-2010 01:33 PM

I have a love-hate relationship with it. I like the results since they are accurate, except when I don't cut the pieces big enough!

The book I have by Carol Doak tells you how big to cut each piece individually so that it fits, but there seems to be a lot of waste.

I can't win!!!

marla 04-04-2010 01:40 PM

I wonder if you print out the 1st page, then adjust yur printer for the second page. Or readjust it on the printer after you print? Just a thought. I bought my patterns from a quilting book so have not have that experience. So sorry as I hope not to sound flippant

salmonsweet 04-04-2010 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by Quiltmaniac
I have a love-hate relationship with it. I like the results since they are accurate, except when I don't cut the pieces big enough!

The book I have by Carol Doak tells you how big to cut each piece individually so that it fits, but there seems to be a lot of waste.

I can't win!!!

I had a lot of wasted-fabric chagrin as well with the traditional sew through the paper method.
With freezer paper piecing I found I only need to cut 1/2'' seam allowance and it always fits. A bit of waste (as compared to 1/4'' when not using PP), but I can live with that.

gaga grandma 04-04-2010 03:24 PM

I use the paper templates that can be reused. If you take basting stitches to attach your fabric, then you can easily take the template out by cutting the basting threads after you attach to the block of PPs.

Becca 04-04-2010 07:40 PM

I love paper piecing. Using a very small stitch help when tearing off paper. I use any type of paper available. I love the accuracy that comes with pp.

JanetM 04-04-2010 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by shrabar
I went to the site you mentioned little confusing for a new quilter, Could you please send me the sizes of a twin, full, queen & king quilt & what is the difference between paper piecing & paper foundation. Thank You HappyEaster

I don't have the different quilt size measurements but the definition of paper piecing and paper foundation is:
paper piecing is a technique or method whereby you sew fabric pieces onto a paper pattern and paper foundation refers to using a paper pattern as a foundation for your fabric block. They really are the same, just different ways to describe the technique. Clear as mud, right :?:


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