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OhCanada 01-31-2016 02:32 PM

preventing the wiggle after pivoting?
 
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Any tips for this? I try to gently reposition my quilt through the throat when I pivot (although sometimes it is necessary to use more persuasion). As you can see in the photo below I often end up with a wiggle after the pivot. I would really like to eliminate this.

EasyPeezy 01-31-2016 02:41 PM

Do you have your needle in the down position when you pivot?

Deb watkins 01-31-2016 02:48 PM

When I have to do a pivot, I keep my needle in the down position, turn to where I want to be, then I do a one stitch 'reverse' stitch, which keeps my needle in the same spot - then I can go forward without that little wiggle.

audsgirl 01-31-2016 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by Deb watkins (Post 7451961)
When I have to do a pivot, I keep my needle in the down position, turn to where I want to be, then I do a one stitch 'reverse' stitch, which keeps my needle in the same spot - then I can go forward without that little wiggle.

I had never heard of doing this, but I'm going to try it when I do my next quilt. Thanks Deb!

Leslie

OhCanada 01-31-2016 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by Deb watkins (Post 7451961)
When I have to do a pivot, I keep my needle in the down position, turn to where I want to be, then I do a one stitch 'reverse' stitch, which keeps my needle in the same spot - then I can go forward without that little wiggle.


I am careful to keep the needle in the down position when pivoting - however never tried doing one reverse stitch.
I'll give that a try - thanks for the suggestion Deb!

DOTTYMO 02-01-2016 12:10 AM

This looks like the same as stopping in free motion. And then restarting. Will keep watching as my friend does this when stopping in a straight line and I can't see what she is doing wrong.

toverly 02-01-2016 04:06 AM

That backstitch is a great idea, I'm going to give that a try too. I think this wiggle occurs when tension is on the batting and fabric after the turn, when the needle goes up to take a stitch, it releases that tension resulting in in wiggle. If the back stitch doesn't work, just make certain the tension is off after the turn. At least that's what I do.

ManiacQuilter2 02-01-2016 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Deb watkins (Post 7451961)
When I have to do a pivot, I keep my needle in the down position, turn to where I want to be, then I do a one stitch 'reverse' stitch, which keeps my needle in the same spot - then I can go forward without that little wiggle.

Very interesting suggestion. I have never had this problem before.

Just Jan 02-01-2016 03:51 PM

Good suggestions here but nobody mentioned using a metal foot instead of a plastic one. Metal gives better control/traction of the fabric.

jmoore 02-02-2016 05:30 AM

Is it a large quilt? I have not had issues as long as my needle is down but am curious to try Deb's suggestion.

maviskw 02-02-2016 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by toverly (Post 7452416)
That backstitch is a great idea, I'm going to give that a try too. I think this wiggle occurs when tension is on the batting and fabric after the turn, when the needle goes up to take a stitch, it releases that tension resulting in in wiggle. If the back stitch doesn't work, just make certain the tension is off after the turn. At least that's what I do.

Toverly has a good suggestion.
I think it is the tension of the fabric with the needle in it. When you turn or stop or pivot, you are putting pressure on the fabric. Sometimes you can't even see that it is stretched. So when I stop with the needle down and re-position the body of the quilt, I make sure the part that is under the needle is not stretching and has plenty of play before before lifting the needle again.

Just Jan 02-02-2016 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by Just Jan (Post 7453109)
Good suggestions here but nobody mentioned using a metal foot instead of a plastic one. Metal gives better control/traction of the fabric.

Oops, I was referring to using a metal open toe foot when doing applique like when machine stitching down a Dresden Plate; where you stop and pivot. A plastic foot has more tendency to slip. I see now you were talking about machine quilting, not machine applique.

Chris G 02-02-2016 07:23 AM

At the points that you are changing direction, I make a tiny second stitch, almost like a lock stitch. It's usually so tiny that it's not visable, and the point of change looks clean when you go back to your original stitch length

Jo Anne B. 02-02-2016 08:51 AM

This board is so good!! I just experienced this for the first time with a baby quilt I just finished. Sometimes my thread would snap too. I am definitely going to do the backstitch!
This is not the first time I have had a dilemma and surprise there is a thread pertaining to my exact problem!

MaryKatherine 02-02-2016 09:42 AM

After I pivot, I drop the pressure foot. and before I stitch, I lift the needle to see if the fabric moves. Then I can adjust.
I think this is a factor with all machines that do zz,or embroidery stitches, because the needle position isn't fixed.

Watson 02-02-2016 10:14 AM

Be really sure there is no tension in any direction on your fabric before you start again. Even a little tension will cause the fabric to pull a bit and give you that little "jump".

Watson

Windblown 02-02-2016 11:29 AM

Also check that the fabric tension on your needle, rearranging your quilt can pull the needle a bit to the side, when you take a stitch the needle moves back to it's true position. This can break your thread too.
The sugestion to back stitch would help with this too.

Hope I did not confuse the issue

Karen

citruscountyquilter 02-02-2016 12:37 PM

Great ideas! I have used my needle up/down button to see if the fabric moves after a pivot and if it does then gently guide it back so the needle falls in the same place before I proceed. Not the fastest way to do things but it works. I'll have to try the back stitch technique.

maviskw 02-03-2016 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by MaryKatherine (Post 7453739)
After I pivot, I drop the pressure foot. and before I stitch, I lift the needle to see if the fabric moves. Then I can adjust.
I think this is a factor with all machines that do zz,or embroidery stitches, because the needle position isn't fixed.

Yes, MaryKatherine, this is the right way to do it. Look and see if the fabric moves when you raise the needle.
If it does, you can then adjust the position before the needle goes back in. I can't figure out how a back stitch would help anything. If the needle is in the wrong place, only moving the fabric will solve that.


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