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JPCQuilts 11-13-2010 07:34 PM

I am trying to make a block called King's Crown; here's the URL where I found the pattern:
http://www.quiltmag.com/resources/12...c-stash-block/

I cut the pieces out as specified in the directions but the dark pink triangles are too small for the yellow triangles...I recut with some more fabric, same results...the dark pink triangles are too small.

Could this be a pattern mistake, or am I doing something wrong? :) ANYTHING with triangles confuses me so I usually stick to rectangles and squares....but have to learn sometime! Thanks so much for any help...

amma 11-13-2010 07:36 PM

Have you double checked the size of the yellow ones?

ktbb 11-13-2010 07:39 PM

beautiful block...not sure why the triangles are the wrong size, but why not make a flying geese block for the four sides instead of cutting out triangles then stitching them together. Flying geese is an easy block to make, and there are plenty of tutorials around showing how to make them. That would take care of all the triangles in the block.

JPCQuilts 11-13-2010 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by amma
Have you double checked the size of the yellow ones?


Yes, I cut the 7 1/4 inch square and then cut it into 4 triangles, as directed. Then cut the 2 7/8 squares and cut each square into a triangle, and they don't match up...did it twice...

JPCQuilts 11-13-2010 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by ktbb
beautiful block...not sure why the triangles are the wrong size, but why not make a flying geese block for the four sides instead of cutting out triangles then stitching them together. Flying geese is an easy block to make, and there are plenty of tutorials around showing how to make them. That would take care of all the triangles in the block.


Because that would mean refiguring out all the math. :) I have a center square that is the main feature of this block; it is a photo on fabric from a friend, who asked me to make a block for her with this pattern. I'm not good at figuring out the math with triangles so need precise instructions for the whole block.

franie 11-13-2010 07:45 PM

I would do the flying geese instead of the triangles too. I don't like sewing with triangles per se. Also did you need to turn the triangle to make it work? I also go larger on triangles if I have to make them or use them and trim to size.

QuiltswithConvicts 11-13-2010 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by JPCQuilts
I am trying to make a block called King's Crown; here's the URL where I found the pattern:
http://www.quiltmag.com/resources/12...c-stash-block/

I cut the pieces out as specified in the directions but the dark pink triangles are too small for the yellow triangles...I recut with some more fabric, same results...the dark pink triangles are too small.

Could this be a pattern mistake, or am I doing something wrong? :) ANYTHING with triangles confuses me so I usually stick to rectangles and squares....but have to learn sometime! Thanks so much for any help...

You could try cutting 4 yellow rectangles that are 3 1/2" x 6 1/2" and 8 pink squares that are 3 1/2" x 3 1/2". Draw a diagonal line on all the pink squares. Place a square at one end of the rectangle and sew ON the diagonal line. Iron the square triangular flap out towards the corner. I trim out both of the layers underneath the top triangle, but you could leave the bottom-most layer. Repeat on the other 3 rectangles. Then sew the other 4 squares to the other end of the rectangles and press/trim as before. This is just another way to make flying geese units.

Scissor Queen 11-13-2010 08:15 PM

The simple way to piece those flying geese units is to mark the diagonal of the 2 7/8ths squares. Lay one right sides together at one corner of the yellow print square and stitch a quarter inch from the drawn line. When you get close to the end of the top square lay another one in line and continue stitching. When you have that side stitched turn the square around and stitch the other side a quarter of an inch from the drawn line. The cut on the drawn line and iron the pink triangle open. Turn the unit and lay a pink square on the yellow triangle in the corner and sew on each side of the drawn line. Cut on the drawn line and iron open.

ctack2 11-13-2010 08:34 PM

Are you sure you're matching up the right sides together?

CoyoteQuilts 11-13-2010 08:50 PM

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I think you are not putting the parts together right. This pattern is making the flying geese block on the sides. Here is a pic how to put them together. I hope it helps.

Personally I like the way Eleanor Burns does flying geese. Here is a pattern with the instructions on how to do it her way. Of course it is easier to do them using her ruler. http://www.quiltinaday.com/freepatte...Crossroads.pdf

Good luck and let us know how it works out.

smitty 11-13-2010 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by JPCQuilts
I am trying to make a block called King's Crown; here's the URL where I found the pattern:
http://www.quiltmag.com/resources/12...c-stash-block/

I cut the pieces out as specified in the directions but the dark pink triangles are too small for the yellow triangles...I recut with some more fabric, same results...the dark pink triangles are too small.

Could this be a pattern mistake, or am I doing something wrong? :) ANYTHING with triangles confuses me so I usually stick to rectangles and squares....but have to learn sometime! Thanks so much for any help...

please, someone correct if this is wrong---my brain does not always figure stuff right.--
you have a 12" fin. block, so each of the interior blocks would be 3"fin on the side. that would make the pink blocks have to be 3 7/8" to cut diagonal & fit the others.
try this on some muslin. remember, you are sewing this bias edge, so pin before you start, so you have the correct amount sticking over the edge.

quiltjoey 11-13-2010 09:14 PM

I am making a quilt for the BOM out of a book I bought from the LQS. Others and myself have found errors from the book while making the quilt. The LQS really didn't want to admit the book had errors but with several of us questioning the book directions, they admitted there were errors. It has been a great learning experience, in that i know it's not always me making the mistake. Pros and Publishers do as well... Can you adjust your triangles to the correct size? I did mine with paper til I got them the right size...

Scissor Queen 11-13-2010 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by smitty

Originally Posted by JPCQuilts
I am trying to make a block called King's Crown; here's the URL where I found the pattern:
http://www.quiltmag.com/resources/12...c-stash-block/

I cut the pieces out as specified in the directions but the dark pink triangles are too small for the yellow triangles...I recut with some more fabric, same results...the dark pink triangles are too small.

Could this be a pattern mistake, or am I doing something wrong? :) ANYTHING with triangles confuses me so I usually stick to rectangles and squares....but have to learn sometime! Thanks so much for any help...

please, someone correct if this is wrong---my brain does not always figure stuff right.--
you have a 12" fin. block, so each of the interior blocks would be 3"fin on the side. that would make the pink blocks have to be 3 7/8" to cut diagonal & fit the others.
try this on some muslin. remember, you are sewing this bias edge, so pin before you start, so you have the correct amount sticking over the edge.

I found the directions for the four at once no waste method of flying geese. The directions are for 2 X 4 inch geese and they use 2 7/8ths inch squares. The directions are here, http://blocksnswaps.blogspot.com/200...ing-geese.html You just sew the seams before you cut on the cutting lines in the pattern.

Your geese finish at 3 X 6 so the squares have to be 3 7/8ths.

The pattern directions have a mistake.

greensleeves 11-13-2010 11:02 PM

The pattern is in error I think. You need squares of 3 7/8 not 2 7/8. How frustrating this must be for you. Try this new size and see if it doesn't work.

poodlemom 11-14-2010 05:01 AM

Mistakes in patterns are very common. My LQS owner told me a very interesting story about a fabric manufacturer and their "free" quilt patterns that they have to compliment or show off a new line of fabric. One of her big spender customers who always drops a ton of money had come in and bought all the supplies needed for a quilt. She was using the quilt pattern supplied by the manufacturer. Did all the cutting, got half way threw piecing and then things began to go all wrong. No matter how she tried, the pieces were not going together. Brought things into the shop, they mulled over it for hours with the same results. She even brought it to a guild meeting and the whole group tried to work it out. Still no luck. So finally the store owner called the manufacturer with the problem. She was told that they don't make these quilts, they are published as "complimentary" and they don't make any claims of accuracy. I was shocked to hear this. The cost of all the materials to make a quilt is extremely expensive, even with a sale. These patterns are put out to promote the fabric, I would like to think that they put a little time and effort into delivering a good product. I was very disheartened when I heard this and now I look at all free patterns with hesitation. I can't afford to waste that kind of money and have such disappointment.

JPCQuilts 11-14-2010 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by CoyoteQuilts
I think you are not putting the parts together right. This pattern is making the flying geese block on the sides. Here is a pic how to put them together. I hope it helps.

Personally I like the way Eleanor Burns does flying geese. Here is a pattern with the instructions on how to do it her way. Of course it is easier to do them using her ruler. http://www.quiltinaday.com/freepatte...Crossroads.pdf

Good luck and let us know how it works out.

Thanks to everyone with suggestions. I am putting it together correctl; I will post a photo soon of the layout on the table. I wish I was better with math and triangles...I have to rely on the correctnes of the pattern so I've always used squares and rectangles. In the "old days" (when I started quilting in mid 1980) I traced the pattern pieces out of magazine onto cardboard, traced the cardboard shape on the fabric, added the seam allowance by eye and didn't have the trouble these directions are giving me! :)

rustqlts 11-14-2010 07:35 AM

Check out the first method for flying geese in this tutorial:
http://www.connectingthreads.com/tut...hods__D15.html


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