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Flying_V_Goddess 05-01-2008 05:41 PM

I'm finally getting started on the Ninja Star quilt. I finished a couple of test blocks (I'll post pictures of them later). I kind of run into a couple problems.

1. My blocks are supposed to be 8 1/2", but they're coming out to 8 3/8". I'm not sure why. My seams are coming out right.

2. My cardboard templates are already wearing out. I have another print-out of the templates and enough cardboard to do another set, but I don't think they'll last through the 500+ pieces of this quilt. I was thinking of maybe going to the hardware stores and getting Plexi-glass templates cut out, but when I asked my mom about prices she told me it would cost an arm and a leg.

amma 05-01-2008 06:55 PM

You can use plastic lids, too :D They will not wear out when you repeatively trace around them.

Flying_V_Goddess 05-01-2008 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by amma
You can use plastic lids, too :D They will not wear out when you repeatively trace around them.

Oh, sweet! There's like 100 plastic lids from ice cream buckets in one of the cupboards :mrgreen:. The only thing is they're not big enough for the square for the middle of one of the blocks and the other square for the corners of the quilt. But I think cardboard will work okay for those since I only need about 20 for both of them.

Flying_V_Goddess 05-01-2008 07:31 PM

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q.../100_28772.jpg

Here's the test blocks I made for the first block. I should have pictures for the second block tomorrow.

I still can't figure out why they came out to 8 3/8".

mgshaw 05-01-2008 07:57 PM

sometimes I have betterluck using a scant 1/4 in in blocks that have so many pieces to it. sometimes even with a perfect 1/4 in you loose a little in the pressing, you might try it on another test block. those look really great! perfect points in the center! give yourself a pat on the back cause i cant reach you!!

amma 05-01-2008 08:28 PM

Good Job Flying_V!!!! :D :D 8) :D :D As long as all of your blocks come out to the 8 3/8 you will be fine! Did you use the same ruler to cut out all of your pieces and measure the completed blocks?

Flying_V_Goddess 05-01-2008 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by mgshaw
sometimes I have betterluck using a scant 1/4 in in blocks that have so many pieces to it. sometimes even with a perfect 1/4 in you loose a little in the pressing, you might try it on another test block. those look really great! perfect points in the center! give yourself a pat on the back cause i cant reach you!!

I never really understood a scant 1/4" seam...its supposed to be like a hair shorter than 1/4", right? How can you tell if you sewn a scant 1/4" seam anyways?

mgshaw 05-01-2008 08:39 PM

my machine has many needle positions and i just set it over 1 notch to the right so it is just a tiny bit less than a 1/4"

amma 05-01-2008 08:42 PM

I was told that it is 2 threads short of a 1/4" :shock: Not a good thing for me and my old eyes :lol:

mgshaw 05-01-2008 08:43 PM

i think that is what i heard too

Flying_V_Goddess 05-01-2008 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by amma
Good Job Flying_V!!!! :D :D 8) :D :D As long as all of your blocks come out to the 8 3/8 you will be fine! Did you use the same ruler to cut out all of your pieces and measure the completed blocks?

I didn't measure the pieces...but the templates I had said they are supposed to be 8" when finished (so 8 1/2" with the seam allowances). I used the same ruler to measure both blocks...both came out to 8 3/8".

mgshaw 05-01-2008 08:48 PM

you might measure your templates cause sometimes these things dont always print out exactly right

mgshaw 05-01-2008 08:52 PM

i made some storm at sea placemats once and one section of it i cound never get to measure out right,I ripped, I resewed and I ripped some more finally i checked the templates and sure enough they measured too small and of course I had already cut out all my pieces and it was one of the few times I didnt buy extra fabric.

Kyiav10 05-01-2008 09:23 PM

They look great flying V.

Keep up the good work.

Kyia

lin 05-02-2008 04:52 AM

Your blocks are beautiful! I've never gotten that many points to come together so perfectly! I'm impressed.

I'm with the others on the scant ¼". I just try to get a couple of threads closer to the edge and it seems to work pretty well. I'm surprised the one that you pressed with the seams open didn't come out a little larger though. I've heard that pressing to one side is the reason we have to go to a scant to make the blocks come out the right size.

Hope you get it worked out Flying_V because it's sure going to be beautiful when you're done!!

Lisa 05-02-2008 09:23 AM

Lin was right, those are Perfect Points!!!!!! You should be proud of that! Hey, why don't you just call the hardware store and ask about how much the plexiglass would cost before you dismiss it, they might even have some scraps of it or something, you never know! Also, you can buy template sheets at Walmart or a quilt store very cheap, have you checked that out yet? Good luck your doing a great job!

Moonpi 05-02-2008 11:24 AM

This happens to me when I do woodworking - with wood, it's called kerfing, from the width of the saw blade. Your mark from the template will always be off by the width of the marker you use. Even if you cut and sew directly from your mark, it starts a whisker off. Multiply this by the number of parts you have used templates for, and over the width of a quilt you can be off a couple inches.

Strip cutting allows you to cut with only a margin of error equivalent to a razor edge. I would figure out the size squares I need to cut in half to produce 2 triangles at a time. I think for the long haul, it would be easier than trying to guess how many thread-widths you need to be over from your 1/4"

mathteacher 05-02-2008 06:53 PM

I've heard that many hospitals will give away xray sheets, and they make great templates. You can even see through them if you want to fussy cut!

amma 05-02-2008 06:59 PM

Flying_V, do you use a rotary cutter and mat?

ButtercreamCakeArtist 05-02-2008 07:04 PM

I think Lowe's cuts plexi glass for free, but I can't say for sure. Our Lowe's has the poorest customer service. I bought one of the knives to cut the stuff myself (I have not cut it or done anything with it, yet). That's what I bought it for, quilt templates. It really wasn't expensive. I can't remember how much it was bc I've had it a while. I think one 8 x 10 piece was around $2. The larger the size, the more it costs...BUT if they will cut it for free, you might be better off (and save money) having a larger piece cut into smaller pieces...more for your money. Maybe have leftovers for templates for another project...???
Call your local hardware store and see.

ButtercreamCakeArtist 05-02-2008 07:05 PM

Oh, and BTW, your blocks are great! Nice work!! :D

Cathy M 05-03-2008 04:16 PM

I had Home Depot cut some plexiglass for me about a year ago. The cost was very minimal and it was free to cut the templates I wanted. The young man helping me looked at me like I had two heads when I gave him all the sizes and shapes, but he did them :) Like someone posted before, call and find out how much a sheet of plexiglass is. Oh and there might be a coupon off in your Sunday paper.

Flying_V_Goddess 05-04-2008 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by Moonpi
This happens to me when I do woodworking - with wood, it's called kerfing, from the width of the saw blade. Your mark from the template will always be off by the width of the marker you use. Even if you cut and sew directly from your mark, it starts a whisker off. Multiply this by the number of parts you have used templates for, and over the width of a quilt you can be off a couple inches.

Strip cutting allows you to cut with only a margin of error equivalent to a razor edge. I would figure out the size squares I need to cut in half to produce 2 triangles at a time. I think for the long haul, it would be easier than trying to guess how many thread-widths you need to be over from your 1/4"

I used a pen with a ultra fine tip (almost mechancial pencil lead thin) to mark my fabric and cut as close as I possibly can. Even so, like you said it can be a whisker off anyways. But both blocks (though they vary in the number of pieces) came out to about the same size---8 3/8". Technically, if its the margin of error that's messing things up, shouldn't the one with more pieces be smaller than the other?

Flying_V_Goddess 05-04-2008 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by lin
Your blocks are beautiful! I've never gotten that many points to come together so perfectly! I'm impressed.

I'm with the others on the scant ¼". I just try to get a couple of threads closer to the edge and it seems to work pretty well. I'm surprised the one that you pressed with the seams open didn't come out a little larger though. I've heard that pressing to one side is the reason we have to go to a scant to make the blocks come out the right size.

Hope you get it worked out Flying_V because it's sure going to be beautiful when you're done!!

Thanks! That was my first shot at triangles and I guess I did a good job for a first try. :mrgreen:

Flying_V_Goddess 05-04-2008 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by amma
Flying_V, do you use a rotary cutter and mat?

No. I tried learning, but never got the hang of it. Seemed to waste more fabric than getting accurately cut pieces to come out of it. So I've resorted to pre-cut templates to reduce the number of mess ups since I don't have the money to afford miserably trying to perfect my rotary cutting skills. Actually, fabric for my current projects (Ninja Star and Tsunami) have come from some very generous quilters (thank you again---you know who you are) so my margin for messing up is even smaller so I'm not going to put a rotary cutter anywhere near that fabric! lol.

Flying_V_Goddess 05-04-2008 08:21 PM

I have some more pictures of the other blocks. I haven't gotten them uploaded onto Photobucket yet...been a busy, crazy weekend. First, Deni unexpectedly showed up Friday about going shopping for a bridesmaids dress for me so I went for that and passed out after I got home. The next day I went to go see Iron Man with some friends and stayed with them instead of going home so another day without net....got no sleep (I've been up for almost 19 hours straight). And instead of bothering to try and go to sleep I voulenteered to go tag along with Jason and Dan to go help Jason's dad get the tarp shades over the ginsing fields...and ended up getting paid for work that I offered to do for free. Finally was able to buy that cheap straightening iron I had my eye on. :) Now I'm just too tired and not in the mood for uploading those pictures (I'm worn out, yet I'm still going like that bunny on the battery commercials...and so much for a career in hand modeling---getting those tarps up really wore out my fingertips. lol)

In any case, after I get some sleep (hopefully), I'll see if I can get the pictures up on here.

I think I'll be okay with the block sizes. Both blocks turned out to be about the same size.

Flying_V_Goddess 05-05-2008 08:36 PM

Here's the other block.

I have pictures of the two sets of blocks sewn together, but the internet is running really slow tonight so I'm having trouble getting these pictures up. I'll try to get the other two put up tomorrow. In the meantime, enjoy the one I was able to upload. :D

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q.../100_28782.jpg


amma 05-06-2008 07:48 AM

Very Nice! I can't wait to see more! :D :D :D

Flying_V_Goddess 05-06-2008 09:13 PM

Here's the other two (finally). Did I do okay?

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q.../100_28792.jpg

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q.../100_28802.jpg

kacie 05-07-2008 07:21 PM

Better than okay!

sandpat 05-15-2008 05:56 AM

Yes, you done good! I can never seem to get my blocks the exact size. Hopefully I can improve on that since I signed up for a block swap :oops:

Looking great though..your points are beautiful!

Quilting Aggi 05-15-2008 07:02 AM

they are looking great Flying V!!

BDor 05-15-2008 07:04 AM

PERFECT POINTS! You do great work. I can never get my points that good :( can't wait to see the quilt.

Beverly

bj 05-15-2008 05:01 PM

Way to go V...looking better than excellent!


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