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BellaBoo 10-09-2009 12:06 PM

I found a quilt magazine that has a pattern that a friend of mine wants to use. I don't want to tear out the pages and I don't want to mail her the whole magazine as there are several patterns I want in there. I looked and the back issue is no longer available to buy. Are quilt magazines the same as quilt book or patterns bought separately as far as copyrights on the patterns?

justwannaquilt 10-09-2009 12:21 PM

I don't know for sure but wouldn't it be like getting a magazine from the library and coping a page to use the quilt pattern? our library has a copy machine right there, you walk over drop a nickle in and you can copy the page!

BellaBoo 10-09-2009 12:31 PM

That is was what I was thinking too. You never know who will see the copy and I wanted to be in the right.

MadQuilter 10-09-2009 01:40 PM

As far as I know, you are only allowed to make a copy for your own use. (So you don't mess up the original pattern and so you can mark it up)

ghostrider 10-09-2009 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by BellaBoo
Are quilt magazines the same as quilt book or patterns bought separately as far as copyrights on the patterns?

Yes, I believe they are. By copying it and giving it to a friend, the copyright holder suffers a financial loss.

LindaR 10-09-2009 02:07 PM

If you bought the magazine I would think you could copy anything.

justwannaquilt 10-09-2009 02:45 PM

How does the library get away with it then? Do they have to buy a lic. to have the books/magazine or what? or am I just suposed to look at all the quilt books they have and not make any of the patterns?

rivka 10-09-2009 03:02 PM

Library photocopying generally falls under the Fair Use clause -- so long as you are photocopying for private use, then it's probably within the Fair Use terms; additionally, libraries are absolved of any legal ramifications of what their patrons do in regards to copyright. You can read more about it here.

Technically, making a photocopy of something from a magazine for someone else (i.e. not for yourself, and you're not doing research for the person) violates copyright law, as you are distributing the work without the permission of the copyright holder.* But, realistically -- if the issue is no longer available for purchase, and you're not selling the copies, then it's not a big deal. It's the difference between the letter of the law, and the spirit of the law -- the company in question who holds the copyright is not going to be hurt in any way by your making the copy; they're not losing money, customers, etc. by your actions. You're not going to be hauled in front of a court for making the copy. If it were me, I'd do it, and feel no guilt -- if the issue was still available for purchase, that would be a whole other matter.

* I am not a lawyer, just a former librarian who has read a lot about copyright.

ButtercreamCakeArtist 10-09-2009 03:08 PM

If she is a friend, why would she tell?
Better yet, just make a copy for yourself and let her borrow that copy of the pattern. ;) Just make sure you tell her you need it back in, oh--say 50 years or so...

justwannaquilt 10-09-2009 03:25 PM

Gotcha!!!!

peaceandjoy 10-10-2009 06:31 AM

I recently bought two back issues, one on e-bay and one on etsy for just this reason. Even w/ shipping, I paid less than $10 - new magazines aren't much less than that - and I have the whole magazine, not just one pattern.

I'd suggest she try that route, then she'd have her own and no violations to publishers/designers.

dlf0122quilting 10-10-2009 07:14 AM

You might try www.ericas.com for the back issue of the magazine. She stocks many older copies of quilt magazines.

Baren*eh*ked_canadian 10-10-2009 07:14 AM

Wouldn't it be the same as lending her your book? I mean, it's not like you're making a copy to sell.

BellaBoo 10-10-2009 07:28 AM

I made scan and sent it to her. I have never thought about magazine patterns. The designer has been paid by the magazine for all the thousand of copies the magazine printed of the pattern. Just curious how that worked.

patricej 10-10-2009 08:03 AM

what you did violates the magazine publisher's copyrights.

we are all human. we all make mistakes. and we all occassionally "look the other way" for one reason or another.

i'm not throwing stones. waaaaaaaaaaay too many windows in my own house.

but, please, do not suggest or encourage each other in posts here at the board to do what we know we shouldn't. i can't afford a lawyer. if Admin can, i'm sure he'd still rather spend the money on something more fun than a day or two in court. ;-)


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