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Metanoia 06-21-2009 08:26 PM

Hi everyone.

I am making my first "real" quilt at the moment and I'm starting to get the blocks together.

I found some hlepful youtube videos on using a rotary cutter, doing the binding and some other tips, but nothing on the quilting part.

I would like to keep costs down rather than taking it to a professional so I am hoping I can do this on my home machine - a janome memorycraft 7500

So far I think that the process is that you lay out the top, bottom and batting, and leave enough batting and bottom incase of a little shrinkage. Then the whole lot is pinned with safety pins starting from the centre out.

Then is it ok to put this through my sewing machine?
How do you do things like straight lines if you're in the centre of the quilt and have no machine lines to help line everything up?
Any tips for tackling this? I dont' want to ruin my quilt top when I get up to this stage.

It would be great if there are any tutorials available, especially video tutorials.

And here is one of the blocks I have done so far.

[img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3344/...477d872e_m.jpg[/img]

cutebuns 06-21-2009 08:36 PM

I love your block, there is several ways to tackle the quilting, you need to decide what kind of quilting you are going to do, free motion, stitch in the ditch, are just two, there are a lot of things that you can do. depends on what you want it to look like when you are done. what size will it be when you are done?

Metanoia 06-21-2009 09:05 PM

Hi cutebuns.

The finished quilt is planned for a single bed. It will be 12 blocks joined with the same thin black border as in the block and then a thicker border of black at this stage. I am waiting until the blocks are together before deciding for sure on the border.

I have no idea about types of quilting terms. I don't think I am up to free motion quilting at this stage. I know i have the right foot attachment, but when I had a go I was all over the place in terms of control with it. Something with straight lines would probably be better. Is there a style you would recommend for a beginner?

amma 06-21-2009 09:19 PM

There are a number of methods you can use to mark a quilt if you want straight lines to follow. There are pens with disappearing ink, inks that wash out, chalk pens....You may want to google quilt marking and this is a lot of info out there on this :D probably on U Tube, too :D :D :D

cutebuns 06-21-2009 09:23 PM

I would be tempted to do some echo quilting. Which means that you sew beside the lines, you use the lines that are there to follow. you can line the side of the foot up to them. Or if you want to sew further than that from the black lines there are sometimes guide pieces that come with some machines.

MadQuilter 06-21-2009 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by Metanoia
So far I think that the process is that you lay out the top, bottom and batting, and leave enough batting and bottom incase of a little shrinkage. Then the whole lot is pinned with safety pins starting from the centre out.

Yes, you sandwich those three components, but the key is that they have to be flat when you do them. I press the backing and the top prior to assembly, and I make sure that the heavy creases are out of the batting. I lay out the backing (right side down) on a large table and tack it down with a wide blue painter's tape (easily removable). Then I center the batting on the backing, making sure to pat it down smooth. (The tape will help keep the backing from shifting.) The top goes down last and it too needs to be patted out from the center to the edges.

It is a good idea to plan the quilting before pinning the sandwich, so you don't put a bunch of pins right in your line of sewing. The recommendation is to pin a distance no larger than your hand - that should be sufficient.

Stitch in the ditch (SID) is one of the easier straight-line options to quilt. You sew right down the seam line on your block. It's hard to say where the seams fall on your quilt, but you can certainly quilt down each block row in both directions. Then you can always add lines for each block.

Good luck.

Jim's Gem 06-21-2009 09:51 PM

Welcome to the board from Southern California. An easy way to quilt would be to come across the diagonal on the blocks or use a wavy or decorative stitch in the ditch between the blocks. I love to stitch across the diagonals with a decorative stitch, so fast and easy.

Adelaide Girl 06-21-2009 10:31 PM

Your block looks awesome. Love the colours. My twin daughters want a quilt made with similar blocks. Sigh - Will I ever get out of my s-room??

There is a wealth of quilting information out there on the internet. Just google quilting and you will be bombarded with a plethora of information. Have a quick look at some of the sites, then, refine your search to something a bit more specific eg: machine quilting or hand quilting etc. You can spend a lot of time on the net, but, it is worth it. I have spent hours on the net, and basically, have taught myself what to do. Books are great too, tho' they are very expensive.

This forum is great for tips, advice and tutorials - you only need ask and the answers are given freely. A truly wonderful group of people.

Good luck with the quilting and we want progress reports and piccies please.

Whereabouts in South Australia are you? Dianne

quiltluvr 06-21-2009 10:52 PM

Very good job on those blocks. Can't add much more than the tips already given. If you're near a public library see if there's any books that have some good pictures of different quilting methods.

gaigai 06-21-2009 10:57 PM

For a beginner quilter, Stitch In The Ditch (SID) is the easiest and best. You can make practice pieces later to practice other techniques on. There are lots of youtube videos on quilting, here is a good one to start with:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGsGxY7V920&feature=fvw


You can always go to one of your local quilt shops and ask if they have any beginner lessons, or if someone will demonstrate the technique for you. They should be happy to help.

Good luck, and be sure and show us the finished product.

Metanoia 06-22-2009 01:55 AM

Thank you very much everyone for your answers.

I like the idea of "shadowing" the design.
I also like the stitch in the ditch idea, but I guess I won't be able to visualise how this will work out until the blocks are together.

Is there a distance that the quilting stitches should be apart as a maximum? There is so much conflicting information on the internet.

It looks like I will need a walking foot so I think I will take a trip to my janome specialist in the near future and ask some questions there.



Adelaide Girl: I am in the north east of Adelaide - Modbury area.

quiltluvr: Good idea on the library. I keep forgetting we have quite a large one nearby. Thanks!

gaigai: youtube video was great thanks!


Thankyou everyone for your help so far! I will come back with updates (and more questions probably)

minstrel 06-22-2009 02:29 AM

Definitely, definitely go to your Janome dealer and get yourself a walking foot! It will save you LOTS of frustration and help to prevent those little wrinkles in your quilting. As for the maximum distance between quilting lines, check the directions on the package of the batting you're using. It will tell you there how close it has to be quilted. I use Warm and Natural and it can be quilted up to 10 inches apart according to its directions. You have lots of options with your block. I love your colors. Your quilt will be beautiful. You can do this! Welcome to the board. :)

Pam in WV 06-22-2009 02:41 AM

Welcome, your block is lovely.
No matter which method you pick to quilt you top, it is never time or material wasted if you make a block or two extra and practice. It will help you get an idea how it is done, and what the blocks will look like when they are finished.

Metanoia 06-22-2009 04:13 AM

I have been working on my blocks tonight and have 4 done now so I thought I would drop them in this thread.

Thanks for the extra advice. I have a light blue plain practice block which I did to check cutting and sewing together the borders. I will keep it as a test for the quilting too. I will definitely check the batting. I have no idea on different types of batting, but hopefully I find a local quilting shop before I get to that stage.

I really am hoping that this works out because I am enjoying it immensely so far. I have learnt a LOT. And it is quite relaxing to piece together the blocks now I know what I'm doing.

Here are the blocks:

[img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3637/...e51abd55_m.jpg[/img] [img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3344/...477d872e_m.jpg[/img] [img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3300/...a1807d82_m.jpg[/img] [img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3306/...7963407b_m.jpg[/img]

pocoellie 06-22-2009 04:14 AM

Welcome from NE CA. Glad you joined us. I love your design and colors. I can't add much to what's already been said, except that "quilt as you go" hasn't been mentioned.

Lainee 06-22-2009 04:35 AM

Welcome from NE Illinois...I love the colors and design of your blocks...great job!

gaigai 06-22-2009 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by Metanoia
It looks like I will need a walking foot so I think I will take a trip to my janome specialist in the near future and ask some questions there.



When you go to the Janome dealer for your foot (be prepared, they aren't cheap!) they should sit down with you and give you a lesson on how to use it. If they don't, find another dealer!

Mplsgirl 06-22-2009 05:43 AM

Welcome from Roscoe, Illinois.

motomom 06-22-2009 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by Metanoia
Is there a distance that the quilting stitches should be apart as a maximum? There is so much conflicting information on the internet.

The thing to remember is that lots of the "quilting advice" on the internet is just someone regurgitating old advice. And some of them do not take into account that if you use cotton batting, it is not the old stuff, but new modern batting that is punched onto a scrim or otherwise stabilized. In other words, if they say you have to have quilting very close together if you use cotton batting, they may not be correct, depending on the type of batting you use.

Think of those cheap comforters that you can buy. You know, after you wash them a few times how the fluffy stuff inside bunches up and leaves cold spots? This is what you want to avoid. So use good batting, and it won't be an issue how far apart your stitches are.

Quilting G 06-22-2009 12:31 PM

Metanoia- What pattern is that. I have not seen a block like that. It is great.

Rose Marie 06-22-2009 12:55 PM

The best place for free videos.
http://quilterstv.com
Full lenght professional videos.

wraez 06-22-2009 12:56 PM

Very nice blocks, they will have a lovely 'stained glass' look to the quilt when you are done.

I also suggest 'stitch in the ditch' for your first time at quilting. Just put your stitch length at about 3.0, no need for it to be smaller than that but it is a personal choice so you can go smaller. And yes a walking foot is a 'must have' when quilting 3 layers together.

Can't wait to see your finished quilt.

warm quilt hugs, sue

MadQuilter 06-22-2009 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by Metanoia
Is there a distance that the quilting stitches should be apart as a maximum? There is so much conflicting information on the internet.

That depends entirely on your batting and each batting has a recommendation for maximum quilting distance. I use Warm and Natural or Warm and White and I usually don't quilt less than a hand width. Usually, my design tells me how it wants to be quilted when the top is done.

Sometimes, I combine SID and a tied center, using embroidery floss.

I just took a look at your blocks, and I assume that you will put sashing between. You could SID along each side of the sashing (both directions). Inside each block, you could draw an irregular8-pointed star with a point where the dark line meets the edge, and an inside point centered on the next line. It would require a little free-form quilting, but it is still a straight line.

quilt addict 06-22-2009 03:19 PM

I really like your blocks, it will be a nice quilt.

The only thing I have to add is if you decide to mark your quilt design, do it on the top before you make your sandwich. Also, I get my batting out of the package and let it rest for a day before I make the sandwich.

I like the idea of echo quilting around the "windows". Just slightly different than stitch in the ditch.


Metanoia 06-22-2009 04:23 PM

Thankyou very much again everyone! This is a great forum so far :)

gaigai: Thanks again. I will start putting aside money. If I get into this hobby I am sure the foot will be worthwhile compared to the cost of a professional quilting service. I will keep that in mind about the lesson too.

Quilting G: The concept is from a pattern by Kathleen Bissett, however I couldn't find a source to purchase her pattern, so I have been making it up as I go along. It was actually this quilt that inspired me first to have a go myself, but it seems you can do your cuts anywhere you like on your fabric squares as long as you end up with 9 pieces to put back together.

Rose Marie: Thanks for the link. I will check it out when I am at home.

MadQuilter: I like the idea of a star in the centre of each coloured area.

So I have 3 ideas now:
- Stitch in the ditch (creating a replica of the pattern in stitch lines on the reverse)
- "echo quilting" about 1/4" inside the edge of each coloured area
- Star shapes in each coloured area

And I need a walking foot and good quality batting.
I always pick the expensive hobbies :lol:

Metanoia 07-16-2009 07:31 PM

I've started quilting! And I have learnt a lot

- how easily safety pins go in and how to use a spoon to close them
- to double check the tension on my machine after winding bobbins
- to make sure the next area is flat before starting to sew
- that the whole quilt doesn't go through my machine arm area and to turn backwards 270 degrees instead of always forward 90
- not to worry so much and not too be so precious about it... and that if I line it up with the foot it pretty much sews itself

haha... and I am having fun.

Here we are for the progress just before I emptied a box of safety pins into it and started quilting.

[img]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2466/...1dfe004db6.jpg[/img]

Thanks everyone for the suggestion. I went with "warm'n'natural" for batting, and I ended up trying the "stitch in the ditch" method for this one. I'm going around all the coloured areas. I am not sure what to do in the wide border yet though.

I've done 4/12 blocks

cutebuns 07-16-2009 07:37 PM

That looks awesome, great job,

omak 07-18-2009 11:51 AM

That quilt is absolutely STUNNING!
I wanna make one too! I shall save a pic and maybe later <g>

sed823 07-18-2009 05:16 PM

I took a class for $25 at a quilt shop. Brought home lots of samples and ideas. I believe the main thing about quilting on a sewing machine is PRACTICE so you can learn to regulate your stitch length and move smoothly. There's lots of info on the internet if you just search a while. And I have gotten books from my public library. Also, I've bought them at Half Price Books very reasonably. By the way, I've not machine quilted a project yet. I'm still PRACTICING, but I'm going to try it on some placemats my daughter requested (soon, whenever that is).

sed823 07-18-2009 05:18 PM

forgot to tell you I love your first quilt. Great colors and block selection.

Prism99 07-18-2009 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by Metanoia
So far I think that the process is that you lay out the top, bottom and batting, and leave enough batting and bottom incase of a little shrinkage. Then the whole lot is pinned with safety pins starting from the centre out.

Then is it ok to put this through my sewing machine?
How do you do things like straight lines if you're in the centre of the quilt and have no machine lines to help line everything up?
Any tips for tackling this? I dont' want to ruin my quilt top when I get up to this stage.

Instead of pin basting, I would encourage you to try spray basting. It is much, much faster. For a large quilt like this, I would place a few pins around the edges after spray basting. Aside from speeding up the layering process, spray basting also speeds up the quilting process because you don't have to remove pins as you go. I have disliked pins ever since one that I didn't see ruined my new $80 Bernina walking foot years ago.

I am not a big fan of stitch-in-the-ditch, perhaps because I am too much of a perfectionist. For me to find SID pleasing, the stitching has to be exactly where it is supposed to be. I find that very nerve-wracking to do, especially with a large quilt. Mine always seems to want to wander an eighth of an inch on either side of the line.

IMO, the easiest and most pleasing way to machine quilt is curving, wavy lines using a walking foot and the feed dogs up. The machine controls the stitch length this way (make it slightly longer than you would normally use for stitching) and you don't have to keep your eye on the "ditch" and make sure you're not running a little too much to one side or the other. The walking foot allows you to make loose, easy curves as you go. I would probably do cross-hatching with curving lines going both top/bottom and left/right. (It would be even more interesting doing the curving lines from corner to corner; however, for this it would be a very good idea to starch your top and backing heavily before layering. Starch would prevent distortion from stitching on the bias.)

Whatever machine quilting method you decide to use, you want to start in the middle of an edge and go from one side of the quilt to the other. This means you need to fit half the quilt under the arm of your machine. I have tried many methods and for me the easiest is to loosely accordion pleat the quilt as it goes under the arm.

Love your blocks!

littlehud 07-18-2009 05:50 PM

When I did my first quilt I drew lines with a disappearing pen and followed it. Your block look to me like you should outline the pattern of the pieces. But of course it is up to you. By all means use your machine. And most of all, have fun.

Prism99 07-19-2009 08:09 AM

Sorry, I think I missed all of page 2 before posting. The quilt looks wonderful!

Ninnie 07-19-2009 08:13 AM

Your blocks are beautiful!


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