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Becka 05-16-2011 06:32 AM

My Gran and Mom always cut it at the top and pulled it through so that's how I do it. Just habit, right or wrong. Mom didn't so much, but Gran used to keep those little spares in a pile, and when she cleaned up she'd put them outside on the woodpile - said the birds like to use them for nesting.

Gabrielle's Mimi 05-16-2011 07:02 AM

My service tech said to cut and pull thread from the bottom since it keeps lint and junk out of the tension discs. For the cost of a few inches of thread vs. machine repair (or worse, being without my machine for a few days!) it's not worth the risk. A reminder to all...my tech says people don't clean and oil enough, so be sure to treat those babies with loving care! And change your needle while you're at it.

Lavada 05-16-2011 07:51 AM

thanks for the inffo learn something every day from this board

JanetM 05-16-2011 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by dakotamaid

Originally Posted by jdiane318
I learn something new everyday on this board. Did not know about the thread idea at all.

Me too, however, it seems like a waste of thread to do that. (I was taught to sew by a Mom raised in the depression!)

It may be a bit of a waste of thread, but messing up the tension discs is far more expensive.

Farm Quilter 05-16-2011 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by carolynbb
Thanks for the comments. What nanamoms said makes sense. I will gladly waste a little thread so as not to mess up the tension!

Why waste thread? Put it on a needle and use it for applique or putting binding on! :thumbup:

quiltbuddy 05-16-2011 09:10 AM

I've been sewing on the same Bernina for 20 years now and have never done this and have never had any tension problems nor any excess dust or debris. I always use high quality thread and lift the presser foot.

aronel 05-16-2011 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by bluteddi

Originally Posted by dakotamaid

Originally Posted by jdiane318
I learn something new everyday on this board. Did not know about the thread idea at all.

Me too, however, it seems like a waste of thread to do that. (I was taught to sew by a Mom raised in the depression!)

I've never heard of this before either..

I wonder if mine is that way or not???? hmmm it does not seem to pull harder up than down...

Learned something new today also. Thanks!!

pieces 05-16-2011 09:54 AM

Yes, cut the thread at the spool and pull the thread out from the needle. This is the way my Bernina dealer explained it.
Not only will doing it wrong mess up your tension he said it will pull lint up through your machine.

collady 05-16-2011 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by carolynbb
When removing the top thread from your machine are you suppose to cut the thread at the top and pull it out from the bottom - so it doesn't mess up the tension? As opposed to just pulling it out from the top by the spool?

It also prevents the thread from "linting" in your machine. When the thread is pulled backward through the tension it leaves fine lint in the machine. The way the tread is spun onto the spools, the thread does not "lint" nearly as much as it would if spun on in the opposite direction. Thread has a right side/direction and a wrong side/direction.

Qwiltylady 05-16-2011 11:18 AM

I've been sewing for over 50 years and didn't know this. If I empty a spool I pull it through from the bottom and if I am changing spools for color I pull it out from the spool. It has never made any difference.

connie d 05-16-2011 11:47 AM

I agree with Scissor Queen. I always lift my pressor foot. I have been sewing for years and have never had a problem. :):):)

lheizen 05-16-2011 11:57 AM

oops I better start doing that

Jshep 05-16-2011 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by Farm Quilter

Originally Posted by carolynbb
Thanks for the comments. What nanamoms said makes sense. I will gladly waste a little thread so as not to mess up the tension!

Why waste thread? Put it on a needle and use it for applique or putting binding on! :thumbup:

Or sewing on a button.

grammy17 05-16-2011 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by jdiane318
I learn something new everyday on this board. Did not know about the thread idea at all.

Me too! Been doing it the other way all these years.

mar32428 05-16-2011 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by KwiltyKahy
Nancy Zieman recommends this method. Her explanation is that you "floss" the thread path thus removing anything that might be in there.

This is what my Bernina repairman says. Cut at the top and pull from the needle. It does "floss" the machine and picks up little bits of fuzz etc.

coloradosky 05-16-2011 04:08 PM

I have a Viking and started cutting the thread and pulling down and out with the presser foot up and always grumbled about wasting the thread. One day I lifted the presser foot, pulled the thread from the needle and unthreaded the thread working in reverse toward the spool. When I got to the tension area the thread was tension-free and I just lift off the spool. I have been doing it this way ever since. Hope this makes sense!

Eliebelle 05-16-2011 04:18 PM

I JUST read about this on another site and the reasoning for wasting a bit of thread was that it was cheaper to buy thread than to replace the tension in a machine - works for me!

Originally Posted by bluteddi

Originally Posted by dakotamaid

Originally Posted by jdiane318
I learn something new everyday on this board. Did not know about the thread idea at all.

Me too, however, it seems like a waste of thread to do that. (I was taught to sew by a Mom raised in the depression!)

I've never heard of this before either..

I wonder if mine is that way or not???? hmmm it does not seem to pull harder up than down...


Ms Elaine Va 05-16-2011 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by Jan in VA

Originally Posted by dakotamaid
Me too, however, it seems like a waste of thread to do that. (I was taught to sew by a Mom raised in the depression!)

Consider the cost of, say, a spool of thread over a few years time compared to the cost of machine repair. I'd rather doubt and do it than dare and care.

Jan in VA

Jan good point.

jeank 05-16-2011 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by Becka
My Gran and Mom always cut it at the top and pulled it through so that's how I do it. Just habit, right or wrong. Mom didn't so much, but Gran used to keep those little spares in a pile, and when she cleaned up she'd put them outside on the woodpile - said the birds like to use them for nesting.

Please don't put them out for the birds unless you know they are 100% cotton. Nylon, Rayon and Polyester don't disintergrate. They get tangled on little feet and can cause lots of problems for the birds.

Jean

Lucymae 05-16-2011 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by dakotamaid

Originally Posted by jdiane318
I learn something new everyday on this board. Did not know about the thread idea at all.

Me too, however, it seems like a waste of thread to do that. (I was taught to sew by a Mom raised in the depression!)

Me too. "waste not want not". I feel guilty throwing out fabric scraps too. :roll:

lsoan1959 05-16-2011 04:58 PM

When I bought my Baby Lock Embroidery machine 7 years ago they told me to always pull the thread out from the bottom. I don't remember why. Glad you reminded me of that. Could explain some of the tension problems.

canuckninepatch 05-16-2011 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by carolynbb
When removing the top thread from your machine are you suppose to cut the thread at the top and pull it out from the bottom - so it doesn't mess up the tension? As opposed to just pulling it out from the top by the spool?

That's what I have been told to do, and I try to remember to do it :!:

JJane 05-16-2011 06:29 PM

That is a very good question. Always pull the thread down thru the machine after cutting it from the spool. It will mess up your tension if you don't do it that way. Maybe not the first few times but it will make your tension go out over time.

writerwomen 05-16-2011 07:45 PM

The way most people mess it up is because they have the presser foot down which tightens the tension discs. On newer machines with the tension discs housed inside the body of the machine it is difficult to see this. On an older machine you can actually see the disc come together and open when the presser foot is lowered and raised. It actually is a good thing to take a thread put a few knot along it and slide it back and forth through the tension discs (presser foot up) to clean out lint build up and keep the tension cleaner.

madamekelly 05-16-2011 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by jdiane318
I learn something new everyday on this board. Did not know about the thread idea at all.

I was taught by a sewing factory (Jantzen Knitting Mills & Swimwear) to cut the thread at the top of the machine, tie on the next thread with a square knot, un-thread the needle, and pull to the bottom the help clear fuzz from the tension discs. I am wondering if the things I learned there, might be why my machines never need service like I keep hearing all of you talk about? Just a thought....

Another one is that 'you never oil a machine until you have given it a de fuzzing.'
I was also told you never 'blow' into a machine (air or breath), always 'suck' out the air along with the fuzz. We could be fired on the spot if we were caught blowing on a machine for any reason. Breath has moisture, moisture causes corrosion, and breakdown. I should write all this down somewhere.

nursie76 05-16-2011 08:51 PM

This is the way I was told to do it with my new Bernina 830. I still forget every once in a while, but if it will help protect my machine, that's what I will have to learn to do. I still don't understand why it makes a difference as long as the presser foot is up, but.....

nancia 05-16-2011 11:24 PM

i cut the thread at the top And leave it there. when i start with a new color thread i tie the two threads together and pull it thru. voila! the machine is threaded and ready to sew.

pjemark 05-17-2011 05:13 AM


Originally Posted by pjemark

Originally Posted by jdiane318
I learn something new everyday on this board. Did not know about the thread idea at all.

I never knew we should be cutting the thread this way. How did i ever get by without this board. I have had tension problems from time to time. I just had my machine cleaned and tweaked and haven't sewn on it yet- so im anxious to see how it does now that i know how to change the thread correctly. :lol:

Update- I sewed on my machine for 8 hours yesterday and I used my new method of cutting the thread and pulling down. I did the same for the bobbin. I thought it would be hard to remember to do it each time but now it's just habit! Thanks gals!

debcavan 05-17-2011 05:14 AM

The people who sell machines cut it and pull it. They would be trained by the experts.

Pinkiris 05-17-2011 07:16 AM

[quote=collady]

Originally Posted by carolynbb

It also prevents the thread from "linting" in your machine. When the thread is pulled backward through the tension it leaves fine lint in the machine. The way the tread is spun onto the spools, the thread does not "lint" nearly as much as it would if spun on in the opposite direction. Thread has a right side/direction and a wrong side/direction.

If thread has a "right" direction, then aren't we using it in the "wrong" direction when we use a wound bobbin? The "right" direction end of the thread will be on the inside of the bobbin as it is wound. Always wondered about this! :?: :?:

Sue

greaterexp 05-17-2011 07:29 AM

I'm glad you asked this question. I never thought about it!

Grandma Mary 05-17-2011 09:03 AM

If you pull the thread backwards it's like petting a dog or cat backwards and raises the lint and nap on the thread, and clogs the tension. A repair man told me that's one of the number one problems with machines that are brought into him for repairs.

Jannie 05-18-2011 09:45 PM

After hearing this, I asked my machine sales/repair person. He said it was no big deal either way. I have a new 2011 Janome. Hopefully he knows what he is talking about.

Lilrain 05-18-2011 11:22 PM


Originally Posted by Deb watkins

Originally Posted by dakotamaid

Originally Posted by jdiane318
I learn something new everyday on this board. Did not know about the thread idea at all.

Me too, however, it seems like a waste of thread to do that. (I was taught to sew by a Mom raised in the depression!)

Me three.....never thought about messing with the tension by pulling it backwards.

i have never had problems in 25 years of quilting. Maybe it is because my machine is not computerized

penski 05-20-2011 04:01 PM

yes i was told to do that ,but i cant say that i always remember to do it that way !!!

nrt211 05-21-2011 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by jdiane318
I learn something new everyday on this board. Did not know about the thread idea at all.

Me either. Thanks for the info!

windycitygal 06-06-2011 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by KwiltyKahy
Nancy Zieman recommends this method. Her explanation is that you "floss" the thread path thus removing anything that might be in there.

A machine mechanic told me niether way matters; in fact, if you want to get lint out of your thread path use waxed dental floss and thread your machine with it leaving tension disks open and floss up and back. You will be surprised at the dirt that comes out!

roseOfsharon 06-10-2011 02:37 PM

I never knew this... an interesting tip.

roseOfsharon 06-10-2011 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by windycitygal

Originally Posted by KwiltyKahy
Nancy Zieman recommends this method. Her explanation is that you "floss" the thread path thus removing anything that might be in there.

A machine mechanic told me niether way matters; in fact, if you want to get lint out of your thread path use waxed dental floss and thread your machine with it leaving tension disks open and floss up and back. You will be surprised at the dirt that comes out!

I had never heard of this either!


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