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puppypants 10-17-2009 08:44 PM

Hello. This is probably a dumb question, but I need the answer nonetheless. My fabric isn't wide enough for the back so I'll have to piece something together. Do I just put the seam right down the middle of the backside, or is there a more clever way to do it?

sharon b 10-17-2009 08:46 PM

From what I have heard , you don't want the seam in the middle because that is where the most stress is. Are you thinking of having the seam go horizontal or vertical ?

puppypants 10-17-2009 08:50 PM

Well, I wasn't really thinking anything yet. I have the front of the quilt done-just a simple one to get me back into the swing of things. Now I just need to finish the back.

sharon b 10-17-2009 09:01 PM

Let me see if I can explain this so you understand : You can cut the fabric and make it in thirds horizontally. If vertical use the long piece and then when you add the side piece to make it wider that should be off center. Does that make sense ?

omak 10-17-2009 10:15 PM

I had never done a backing horizontally until last year when my Sister in law sent me backs that weren't long enough to go vertical. I had never thought of it, but it seemed to me that she got more bang for her buck by doing that version.
Either way, what sharon was trying to explain ... was: (I think <g>)
You dont want the seam directly in the middle, because it will break down rapidly (or so I have heard)
so, either way, what you do to avoid that problem is to cut two pieces of fabric either horizontally or vertically ... so for the horizontal, I am going to measure the length of my quilt, cut part of my backing to the length, open it up and take the OTHER part of the backing, cut it in half, sew one half one one side of the whole piece, and the second half on the other side (where is a drawing when I need one?)
there will be two seams, but they will not be in the middle, now, will they only show up part way over on your quilt.
When you do it vertically, of course, everything is done according to the width of the quilt top ...
again, you measure the width, cut a piece of fabric that measurement, take the other piece that measures that same measurement, cut the second piece in half, sewing one half on either side of the complete piece, which is laying open.
Remember ... when you are getting ready to baste the quilt before actually quilting it, or when you are loading it on to your frame, the backing needs to be at least three inches bigger ALL AROUND the quilt ... and six inches is a better amount ... the reason for that is because the stitching you do while quilting, starts using up the backing.
I can't explain it ... I just believe it <g>
Can hardly wait to see your finished project! :wink:

omak 10-17-2009 10:25 PM

http://www.alwaysquilting.com.au/mak...quilt_back.htm

THis is a start of a diagram showing what we are talking about.

puppypants 10-18-2009 04:49 AM

Thank you sooo much for this link. It was 100% what I needed with simple step-by-step instructions. And thank you very much for taking the time to help me!

puppypants 10-18-2009 04:51 AM

It makes complete sense and now, thanks to you and Omak, I can finish my quilt. It's really a simple little thing to get me back into quilting (I've only done two quilts before), but I'll post a pic so you and Omak can see. Thank you for your help!

omak 10-18-2009 06:24 AM

Good for you!
Am looking forward to your pictures.
By the way - - did you consider that quilt shops usually sell backing fabric which ranges from 96" to 120" wide?
Buy two yards of that (or whatever it takes to get to the width you need) and you have a back with no seams. Plus, you will usually have some fabric leftover for your "stash" ...
It is just another option to look into for your next quilt.

siss 10-18-2009 06:46 AM

an easy way after step four is to match the seams.
iron one of the new folds.
cut off 1/4".
open and you will have equal spaced pieces added.
hope this makes sense.

granny216 10-18-2009 06:46 AM

Never pieced a back before except down the center. At one of the quilt seminars one of the teachers told us not to piece the backing across the width of the quilt but only down the center length wise. I have never had trouble with this. But I like the pieced look shown and also have seen reversable quilts with another quilt top on the back. Very interesting.

elizajo 10-18-2009 07:33 AM

I really like the look of backing made from 3 or more vertical "stripes". I used three for my 9 patch quilt for my own queen sized bed. I fold back the top a little to show the stripes when I make the bed each morning. My next quilt will have at least 5 vertical strips.

One thing I like about this method is that it is easy to make a square backing. This is the one instance where I use tearing to get straight of grain seams. To me, these seams make a good reference point while basting the sandwich to keep the backing on the straight of grain.

huntannette 10-18-2009 07:59 AM

Thank you...this post helped me as well...I put the link in my favorites!!

omak 10-18-2009 10:39 AM

I have wondered about striping the backs horizontally, since while I am using the quilting frame, those seams are taking quite a pressure. It is pretty amazing how tight you can get the fabric when you are anchored at one end and have a ratchet style catch on each end of the cross pieces.
So, when I read "only vertically", it made sense to me ... but then they started to using all sorts of seams to make the backing, and when you realize the top (which has all sorts of seams) goes through the same pressure ...
all of my reservations disappeared.
Probably the most important thing to remember is the stitch size as you are doing the seams. The bigger the stitch length? the less tension it can handle.

Boston1954 10-18-2009 10:46 AM

I have never had much luck getting the seam straight down the middle so I do not try. I just hope that it blends enough so that it is not noticable.

rosyramon 10-18-2009 02:28 PM

OOPS...I don't know how to delete this message!

rosyramon 10-18-2009 02:29 PM

I frequently have to piece fabric to have enough for the back. I buy enough for the width of the quilt including 8" (4" on each side for the quilter...or whatever your quilter needs). First I iron the fabric making sure I iron out the fold, then fold it in half (the opposite of the way it comes folded), make sure you the fabric is face to face, then sew along that line. Cut through the end you just sewed and open it up. I iron the seam open, not to one side as you do piecing your quilt so it doesn't add bulk. After it's quilted that seem will hardly be noticed and the quilting should add strength. If you have a very large quilt you may need to buy enough for the length (or width, whichever works out better), plus whatever the quilter needs and seam it with 3 panels. I can't wait to see your quilt!

Olivia's Grammy 10-18-2009 03:18 PM

Somtimes I like to do two tops, one slighty bigger. That way I have two quilts for the space of one. Sometimes I use big pieces of what ever is left over from the front. I am however having trouble understanding why you can't seam down the middle. How is it going to come apart with all the quilting?

rosyramon 10-18-2009 03:44 PM

I don't understand either. I've never had a problem with my quilts when I've put the seam down the middle, although there's less of a seam making it the width instead of the length. I've also used leftover fabric from the front to put on the back...it's a nice surprise when you turn the quilt over.

rosyramon 10-18-2009 04:07 PM

I'm sorry, I told you to sew and cut the FOLDED end. You need to sew ONE SIDE of the fabric then cut the folded side (leaving it folded rather than cutting before sewing, helps keep the fabric even), so when it's opened you have a seam across the middle of the quilt back. I hope I didn't confuse you too much!

puppypants 10-18-2009 05:22 PM

It makes sense that quilting shops sell the wider fabric. That must be why I don't remember having to piece the back.

omak 10-18-2009 05:49 PM

The seam in the center isn't about a seam coming apart. It is that most people start folding quilts in half ... half of a whole is the middle <G>.
Also ... when people use a quilt, they usually put the middle over themselves. Think of where all bedsheets, etc wear out ... in the middle.
It could be that "instructors" are being too over cautious, but the other item is also the line going straight.
A more relaxed mental attitude probably wouldn't hurt in these matters.
A way to allieviate the concern over a straight seam, or that the seam would be really noticeable, is to select fabric that has a lot of pattern to it, as in calico ... the busyness of the little figures hides the seam - - usually <g> ... there are always exceptions to every rule.

zkosh 10-18-2009 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by siss
an easy way after step four is to match the seams.
iron one of the new folds.
cut off 1/4".
open and you will have equal spaced pieces added.
hope this makes sense.

I like your suggestion about pressing a fold and then cutting it off. That would be a lot quicker and easier than cutting the pieces beforehand and then sewing them on. :-) Thanks for the tip!! :D

siss 10-18-2009 06:57 PM

zkosh
i am glad you understood my suggestion, wasn't sure it was clear.

Lostn51 10-18-2009 07:29 PM

What few that I have done I have had the seams going horizontal because you actually save material that way.

Billy

Phyl 10-20-2009 06:37 AM

I rarely use one fabric for the back of any of my quilts....unless they are very small ones, and even then....The professional way, I have been told is to break up the back into thirds and have three strips vertically or horizontally. I like to use four fabrics. I sew two together and lay them down vertically, then sew two other fabrics together and lay them down vertically next to the first two BUT not with points matching! They relate to the front in fabric and color and it makes the quilt reversible to have something so pretty on both sides. Sometimes I even start the label on the front and bring it around to the back so you know it can be used on both sides. It's interesting and innovative. The label becomes an intricate part of the quilt I have lovingly made for someone. Good luck. The only way we limit ourselves is to say NO to our imagination! Go for it! :lol:

vanastoy1 10-20-2009 06:58 AM

Normally when I back my quilts, I use a sheet so that I don't have to worry with all those seams. It's so much easier for me and you can find sales on sheets alot of the time if you just look in the bedding dept. in wal-mart. Just my two cents for what it's worth.

rosequilts 10-20-2009 07:42 AM

one of my favorite ways to back a quilt iss from leftovers from the top. Make blocks to make up what you need from the piece you have for a back and have fun. I have nade a row of blocks down the middle, rows around the edges (as mang edges as I need) or just piece large pieces of fabric to the size needed.

eb in calif 10-20-2009 12:46 PM

The backing can be 1, 2 or many pieces from a plain single color to a quilt in itself. Get creative and with a little more work end up with a novel backing

MadQuilter 10-20-2009 01:31 PM

Honestly, I have made plenty of quilts with a basic horizontal seam right down the middle, and I have not had any problems.

omak 10-20-2009 06:20 PM

LOL - - can you tell that I watch a LOT of TV? <G>
The voice of experience trumps what I have "heard", in my humble opinion.


Originally Posted by MadQuilter
Honestly, I have made plenty of quilts with a basic horizontal seam right down the middle, and I have not had any problems.


tigger5464 10-20-2009 06:32 PM

My 2 cents ....if it matters...my sister-in-law did a quilt that took the purple ribbon at a fair (over all best of show) and she had blocks that matched the front of the quilt but also the remaining was strips that went horizontally. Hope that someone could use this. It is what I plan to do with my next quilt since sil won overall :)

elizajo 10-20-2009 07:43 PM

On quiltville.com, Bonnie Hunter describes how she keeps a supply of 10.5" squares for backings. For her, it is an easy way to measure how large to piece the backing when the blocks measure 10" after seaming.

Many of her quilt backings are pieced this way, but she also uses larger rectangles and leftover blocks.


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